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Gollum Grand Master

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Pak leaders :facepalm:

 

Pakistan parliamentarians want to ‘nuke’ Israel, declare jihad. Right, like that will help

 

Pakistan’s National Assembly earlier this week passed a resolution condemning Israeli aggression against the Palestinian people. Several fiery speeches were made by the parliamentarians, with many questioning the usefulness of passing such a resolution and asking the government to do more. Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi announced countrywide protests against Israel come Friday. What more?

Pakistan declaring jihad against Israel and subsequently dropping nukes, using its artillery of missiles, war jets, or even the army, was the recurring “more” offered by parliamentarians. As Jamaat-e-Islami’s Maulana Abdul Akbar Chitrali asked of the army chief of Pakistan, what good was a seven lakh-strong army if it can’t liberate Palestine and Kashmir? Was the nuclear bomb just an artefact to be displayed in the museum? Similarly, Jamaat Ulema Islam’s Mufti Abdul Shakoor was convinced that Pakistan could wipe out Israel from the face of the earth within minutes. After all, Pakistan was “atomi quwat”. Citing how the Taliban forced out the United States from Afghanistan, Shakoor said “Israel was just a small fry”.

 

Another Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) parliamentarian Asma Qadeer pleaded with the speaker to let her enrol for jihad, because it was the only option for Pakistan. She also called US Vice-President Kamala Harris a blot on the name of womanhood and humanity for siding with Israel. “She has spoken the language of India and not America.” Qadeer is the same parliamentarian who suggested ties with Israel in a national assembly speech in 2018.

 

Atom bomb or long game?

It seems that Hitler is available these days to give out quotes to Pakistani politicians — almost as if he leaves random voice notes on their WhatsApp.

Kanwal Shauzab, national assembly member from the ruling PTI, claimed Hitler said: “I could’ve killed all the Jews but I left some to let the world know why I was killing them.” She was rewarded with desk thumping at the revelation of an incorrect quote attributed to the mass killer.

 

Shauzab then went onto talk about how Pakistan’s atom bomb would only be burst on Shab-e-Barat. Missing the irony of the destruction linked with the atom bomb.

State minister for parliamentary affairs Ali Muhammad Khan, however, didn’t want to nuke Israel, he preferred Muslims preparing/planning like Jews did for the next 1,000 years. Khan referred to ‘The Protocols of the Elders of Zion’, a fake antisemitic hoax about a grand Jewish plan for global domination. A crash course on Palestine for parliamentarians outside WhatsApp University looks like the need of hour.

 

Outside parliament, Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) pledged Turkey’s president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan half-a-million workers who could join him to ensure Palestine’s freedom.

“Pakistani Muslims will sacrifice their youth and lives, but they will not accept the filthy feet of Jews in Jerusalem,” TLP leader Ashraf Asif Jalali said in solidarity with Erdoğan.

 

Jingoism won’t work

Emotions are running so high in Pakistan that the passionate arguments put forward by politicians translate into sheer stupidity because they want to keep using the nuclear weapon. Imagine, the idea of these parliamentarians is to liberate Palestinians by dropping nukes in their neighbourhood. All in the name of saving them. And on other occasions, it is pure antisemitism, again in the name of supporting the Palestinian cause.

 

Pakistani actress Veena Malik tweeted the same popular Hitler saying, “I would have killed all the Jews of the world…but I kept some to show the world why I killed them.” After backlash, the tweet was removed by Twitter. 

In another instance, CNN dropped Adeel Raja, a Pakistan-based contributor, who had tweeted: “The world needs a Hitler.” Several other antisemitic tweets by Raja surfaced that hailed Hitler, and offered support to Germany in a World Cup final because “Hitler was a German and he did good with those Jews!”

What do you think supporting Hitler means in 2021? Do you think that a Hitler now would go on a killing rampage of the “other” and not kill you because of your faith? How much trust would you have in Hitler to believe this? These questions never cross the minds that can’t think beyond the prism of faith.

For decades, Pakistani school textbooks and national discourse has ingrained the idea that countries are essentially faith-based. So, the common reference to an Indian wouldn’t be “Indian” but “Hindu”, an American would be “Christian”, and an Israeli, a “Jew”. Which also alienates the religious minorities in Pakistan, especially when in a conflict.

From Hindus are “cow urine-drinking people” to a poster that says “Hindu baat se nahin laat se manta hai (Hindu won’t understand with words but with kicks)”, to “Modi and Hindus do not have humanity, they are beasts”, jingoism gets applause at home, but exposes you when you use the same bigoted jargon to stand for a cause like Palestine.

 

The author is a freelance journalist from Pakistan. Her Twitter handle is @nailainayat. Views are personal.

MechEng Veteran

MechEng

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26 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Pak leaders :facepalm:

 

Pakistan parliamentarians want to ‘nuke’ Israel, declare jihad. Right, like that will help

 

Pakistan’s National Assembly earlier this week passed a resolution condemning Israeli aggression against the Palestinian people. Several fiery speeches were made by the parliamentarians, with many questioning the usefulness of passing such a resolution and asking the government to do more. Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi announced countrywide protests against Israel come Friday. What more?

Pakistan declaring jihad against Israel and subsequently dropping nukes, using its artillery of missiles, war jets, or even the army, was the recurring “more” offered by parliamentarians. As Jamaat-e-Islami’s Maulana Abdul Akbar Chitrali asked of the army chief of Pakistan, what good was a seven lakh-strong army if it can’t liberate Palestine and Kashmir? Was the nuclear bomb just an artefact to be displayed in the museum? Similarly, Jamaat Ulema Islam’s Mufti Abdul Shakoor was convinced that Pakistan could wipe out Israel from the face of the earth within minutes. After all, Pakistan was “atomi quwat”. Citing how the Taliban forced out the United States from Afghanistan, Shakoor said “Israel was just a small fry”.

 

Another Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) parliamentarian Asma Qadeer pleaded with the speaker to let her enrol for jihad, because it was the only option for Pakistan. She also called US Vice-President Kamala Harris a blot on the name of womanhood and humanity for siding with Israel. “She has spoken the language of India and not America.” Qadeer is the same parliamentarian who suggested ties with Israel in a national assembly speech in 2018.

 

Atom bomb or long game?

It seems that Hitler is available these days to give out quotes to Pakistani politicians — almost as if he leaves random voice notes on their WhatsApp.

Kanwal Shauzab, national assembly member from the ruling PTI, claimed Hitler said: “I could’ve killed all the Jews but I left some to let the world know why I was killing them.” She was rewarded with desk thumping at the revelation of an incorrect quote attributed to the mass killer.

 

Shauzab then went onto talk about how Pakistan’s atom bomb would only be burst on Shab-e-Barat. Missing the irony of the destruction linked with the atom bomb.

State minister for parliamentary affairs Ali Muhammad Khan, however, didn’t want to nuke Israel, he preferred Muslims preparing/planning like Jews did for the next 1,000 years. Khan referred to ‘The Protocols of the Elders of Zion’, a fake antisemitic hoax about a grand Jewish plan for global domination. A crash course on Palestine for parliamentarians outside WhatsApp University looks like the need of hour.

 

Outside parliament, Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) pledged Turkey’s president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan half-a-million workers who could join him to ensure Palestine’s freedom.

“Pakistani Muslims will sacrifice their youth and lives, but they will not accept the filthy feet of Jews in Jerusalem,” TLP leader Ashraf Asif Jalali said in solidarity with Erdoğan.

 

Jingoism won’t work

Emotions are running so high in Pakistan that the passionate arguments put forward by politicians translate into sheer stupidity because they want to keep using the nuclear weapon. Imagine, the idea of these parliamentarians is to liberate Palestinians by dropping nukes in their neighbourhood. All in the name of saving them. And on other occasions, it is pure antisemitism, again in the name of supporting the Palestinian cause.

 

Pakistani actress Veena Malik tweeted the same popular Hitler saying, “I would have killed all the Jews of the world…but I kept some to show the world why I killed them.” After backlash, the tweet was removed by Twitter. 

In another instance, CNN dropped Adeel Raja, a Pakistan-based contributor, who had tweeted: “The world needs a Hitler.” Several other antisemitic tweets by Raja surfaced that hailed Hitler, and offered support to Germany in a World Cup final because “Hitler was a German and he did good with those Jews!”

What do you think supporting Hitler means in 2021? Do you think that a Hitler now would go on a killing rampage of the “other” and not kill you because of your faith? How much trust would you have in Hitler to believe this? These questions never cross the minds that can’t think beyond the prism of faith.

For decades, Pakistani school textbooks and national discourse has ingrained the idea that countries are essentially faith-based. So, the common reference to an Indian wouldn’t be “Indian” but “Hindu”, an American would be “Christian”, and an Israeli, a “Jew”. Which also alienates the religious minorities in Pakistan, especially when in a conflict.

From Hindus are “cow urine-drinking people” to a poster that says “Hindu baat se nahin laat se manta hai (Hindu won’t understand with words but with kicks)”, to “Modi and Hindus do not have humanity, they are beasts”, jingoism gets applause at home, but exposes you when you use the same bigoted jargon to stand for a cause like Palestine.

 

The author is a freelance journalist from Pakistan. Her Twitter handle is @nailainayat. Views are personal.

 

 

 

Lol I'm waiting for the day when their delusions actually convert into actions. But China won't let that happen, they do not want Pakistan to do something stupid that would affect CPEC.

coffee_rules Grand Master

coffee_rules

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8 hours ago, Dery said:

Israeli organizations call Israel an apartheid state

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_the_apartheid_analogy

 

Yesh Din

In 2020, the Israeli human rights organization Yesh Din after studying the issue found that the Israeli treatment of the Palestinian population of the West Bank meets the definition of the crime of apartheid under both Article 7 of the 2002 Rome Statute which established the International Criminal Court (ICC) and the International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid (ICSPCA) adopted by the United Nations General Assembly, which entered into force in 1976.[85]

 

B'tselem report

In January 2021, Israeli human rights organisation B'Tselem issued a report outlining the considerations which led to the conclusion that "the bar for labeling the Israeli regime as apartheid has been met."[86] In presenting the report, B'Tselem's Executive Director, Hagai El-Ad, stated that "Israel is not a democracy that has a temporary occupation attached to it: it is one regime between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, and we must look at the full picture and see it for what it is: apartheid."[87] 

These organisations are like Amnesty India, Kashmir HR groups that are terror sympathizers in the name of HRs. 

coffee_rules Grand Master

coffee_rules

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13 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

It is a political stunt pulled by Benjamin Netanyahu. He basically created a problem out of nowhere.  4th time he is unable to form a single coalition government.  Corruption charges are against him. He could end up in prison if he doesn't become the prime minister.

Do you have any  credible proof for that? Not corruption chanrges etc., but a political stunt. ?

Laaloo Grand Master

Laaloo

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7 minutes ago, mishra said:

Why, kids faces are used other than propoganda. If Israel gives 1 hr advance warning still u have kids in building, who is at fault?

Israeli kids and building are also effected. Do they use the faces?

It’s the new jihad. Put the weeping kids and women in the front with men in the back. You saw those pictures from last year when greece didn’t want to take in these people? 

mishra Grand Master

mishra

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17 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

It’s the new jihad. Put the weeping kids and women in the front with men in the back. You saw those pictures from last year when greece didn’t want to take in these people? 

Just this week , Spainish army was overwhelmed by the immigrants at morrocco border.

A crying child in front of rubbles, who wants to help humanity by becoming a doctor or ngo is best form of propaganda 

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coffee_rules Grand Master

coffee_rules

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18 minutes ago, mishra said:

Just this week , Spainish army was overwhelmed by the immigrants at morrocco border.

A crying child in front of rubbles, who wants to help humanity by becoming a doctor or ngo is best form of propaganda 

Those photographs will get Pulitzer Prizes for sure. 

vvvslaxman Grand Master

vvvslaxman

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48 minutes ago, mishra said:

Why, kids faces are used other than propoganda. If Israel gives 1 hr advance warning still u have kids in building, who is at fault?

Israeli kids and building are also effected. Do they use the faces?

 

Why do you think kids dying is a propaganda?  The damage is disproportionate.  Isreali is attacking them with guided missiles to serve the political interest of a leader.  Only propaganda i see is right wing propaganda who tries to spin their own narratives to justify mass murder.

mishra Grand Master

mishra

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20 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Why do you think kids dying is a propaganda?  The damage is disproportionate.  Isreali is attacking them with guided missiles to serve the political interest of a leader.  Only propaganda i see is right wing propaganda who tries to spin their own narratives to justify mass murder.

Who says kids are not dieing.  What is propotinate response? Like one by India? There are billions of Indians. Handfull of jews dont have that luxury 

vvvslaxman Grand Master

vvvslaxman

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1 minute ago, mishra said:

Who says kids are not dieing.  What is propotinate response? Like one by India? There are billions of Indians. Handfull of jews dont have that luxury 

Israel has one of the strongest air force in the world. Israeli police started it.  So they reacted.  This war was totally avoidable. But Netanyahu wanted it. Even now he can de-escalate. Is he doing that? No. 

 

 

EnterTheVoid Mentor

EnterTheVoid

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27 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Why do you think kids dying is a propaganda?  The damage is disproportionate.  Isreali is attacking them with guided missiles to serve the political interest of a leader.  Only propaganda i see is right wing propaganda who tries to spin their own narratives to justify mass murder.

 

So if a Hamas rocket ends up hitting in school in Southern Israel, Israel should target a school in the Gaza Strip?

 

Would that be considered a proportional response as it is "eye for eye"?

raki05 Grand Master

raki05

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7 hours ago, Dery said:

Okay.. Pak is an fasict theocracy who subjugates its minorities conducts terrorism against India including 26/11. Now accept that Israel is a terrorist & apartheid state.

Follow what @EnterTheVoid mentioned. We will regroup again to review your petition.

vvvslaxman Grand Master

vvvslaxman

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1 minute ago, coffee_rules said:

Just like Obama magically found Osama a year before his re-election

 

Nothing to do with Osama. Even without Osama he was going to win.  He got Romney's clock cleaned. Not like he was in any trouble at all.

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