Dery Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/time-for-govt-to-understand-theres-more-to-life-than-image-building-anupam-kher-on-covid-efforts-7312648/ It is important to hold the government responsible for what is happening in the country in the wake of the second Covid wave, actor Anupam Kher said on Wednesday while asserting that public criticism towards authorities is “valid in lots of cases”. The veteran actor, who is often viewed as being close to the Narendra Modi-led government, added that it was time for the government to understand that there’s more to life than image building. beetle 1
vvvslaxman Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 Lot of hardcore BJP supporters that i know are extremely pissed off. Some of them lost multiple people in their family. speedheat, Dery, Astros and 4 others 1 2 4
BacktoCricaddict Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 50 minutes ago, Yoda-esque said: He will still vote Modi T I N A Yoda-esque 1
Texy Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) I agree with the sentiment. BJP has made lots of mistakes and we need to recognize it. Time to refocus and win ppl's hearts starting with improve COVID situation & then farmers' issue. Edited May 13, 2021 by Texy Vivek92, Under_Score, Khota and 1 other 1 2 1
Dery Posted May 13, 2021 Author Posted May 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, Texy said: I agree with the sentiment. BJP has made lots of mistakes and we need to recognize it. Time to refocus and win ppl's hearts starting with improve COVID situation & then farmers' issue. BJP cant offer a long term solution because they don't believe in science. We've seen their MPs, MLAs flaunting COVID rules & telling people only blind faith can save them. vvvslaxman, Khota, Vivek92 and 1 other 2 2
Yoda-esque Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 BJP cant offer a long term solution because they don't believe in science. We've seen their MPs, MLAs flaunting COVID rules & telling people only blind faith can save them. Then Macron and Merkel should also be blind faith followers since they have lost more people as a percent of population. This is an unprecedented event and everything in hindsight is 20-20.Something or the other can always be improved in such a scenario.
Dery Posted May 13, 2021 Author Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Yoda-esque said: Then Macron and Merkel should also be blind faith followers since they have lost more people as a percent of population. This is an unprecedented event and everything in hindsight is 20-20.Something or the other can always be improved in such a scenario. I dont think BJP can improve since their remedies are unscientific and based on blind faith. Though the situation may improve inspite of BJP due to the sacrifices of healthcare staff & common people. Edited May 13, 2021 by Dery Khota 1
Yoda-esque Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 I dont think BJP can improve since their remedies are unscientific and based on blind faith.Okay and I am waiting for your next line,but it never comes ...
Bigg Brother Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 12 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Lot of hardcore BJP supporters that i know are extremely pissed off. Some of them lost multiple people in their family. Those who are affected, Yes. Otherwise there are still many who are doing chest thumping specially NRIs sitting behind computers from the comfort of their home.. Under_Score 1
mishra Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 15 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Lot of hardcore BJP supporters that i know are extremely pissed off. Some of them lost multiple people in their family. Yes they are. However there is one basic problem with BJP supporter. Unlike other party supporters, they are allways critical and outspoken when they think their party does something wrong. But they will still vote for BJP as alternative is worse. Onus is on opposition to provide alternative. But instead of providing credible alternative they peddle lies. For example Rafale saga. Opposition allmost convinced supporters of BJP that there was some wrongdoing by various articles and various speeches. But then when matter came on floor of house for discussion, BJP leaders burned all their lies in just couple of days and opposition had nothing to say. You can watch the debates. So opposition only makes claims outside parliament but when truth is shown they go running. Covid crisis will come on floor of house and I can guarantee, all opposition will do is boycott and get out while BJP will answer everything. For example i was pissed on Yogi for conducting Gram Panchayat elections during pandemic. It was absolutely unforgivable decision in my opinion as Gram Panchayat election can wait. But only now , today I came to know that some asshole had filed a petition and Allahabad High Court had ordered UP Govmnt to conduct election and declare results by May 10. Now, I have been saying that data collection in runup to pandemic is probably root cause. Lets see objectively who was in power in most major cities. Kolaka -Mamata, Chennai- Aiadmk, Dlhi Kejri , Mumbai- Vasooli Bhaiya. So, i will wait for issue to come in parliament. And then make my mind. dial_100, RedFever, coffee_rules and 1 other 2 1 1
Yoda-esque Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 Those who are affected, Yes. Otherwise there are still many who are doing chest thumping specially NRIs sitting behind computers from the comfort of their home.. I lost my father ,and I am an NRI.And I support BJP.What's your point?
Bigg Brother Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 Just now, Yoda-esque said: I lost my father ,and I am an NRI. And I support BJP. What's your point? I dont know about you,neither I was talking about you nor I know who is from where on this place. I'm talking about people from my close circle who have been hardcore supporters. So, yeah my point is that..
Yoda-esque Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 I dont know about you,neither I was talking about you nor I know who is from where on this place. I'm talking about people from my close circle who have been hardcore supporters. So, yeah my point is that..I just refuted your point
G_B_ Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, Bigg Brother said: I dont know about you,neither I was talking about you nor I know who is from where on this place. I'm talking about people from my close circle who have been hardcore supporters. So, yeah my point is that.. Gujarat will still vote BJP. My family hail from Maharashtra. All the relatives I talk to slam the poor performance of the state government. This is a source of primary data. Recently BJP won a bypoll in a seat which they had never won in their history in Pandharpur. This is a source of secondary data. Your assuming that people will simply hold the CG responsible and not hold the state government responsible. I will also tell you another thing. I am of OBC heritage. People in my native village in northern maharashtra will vote for Modi cause he is OBC even if 50% of the population of India passes away due to covid. Realistically a total of less than 0.5% of the population of India will pass away directly or indirectly due to covid. The very vast majority are not touched by this. As is the case in most countries. dial_100 and coffee_rules 2
Yoda-esque Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 Gujarat will still vote BJP. My family hail from Maharashtra. All the relatives I talk to slam the poor performance of the state government. This is a source of primary data. Recently BJP won a bypoll in a seat which they had never won in their history in Pandharpur. This is a source of secondary data. Your assuming that people will simply hold the CG responsible and not hold the state government responsible. I will also tell you another thing. I am of OBC heritage. People in my native village in northern maharashtra will vote for Modi cause he is OBC even if 50% of the population of India passes away due to covid. Realistically a total of less than 0.5% of the population of India will pass away directly or indirectly due to covid. The very vast majority are not touched by this. As is the case in most countries.Maharashtra ,Gujarat,MP,HP all will vote Modi dial_100 1
G_B_ Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 ofcourse they will. The truth is if what my relatives in mumbai say is true, BJP will do rather well in maharashtra due to the bungling from the opposition. Maharashtra has had the most cases and deaths in both covid waves. I notice the international media wilfully ignores this aspect.
vvvslaxman Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 1 hour ago, mishra said: Yes they are. However there is one basic problem with BJP supporter. Unlike other party supporters, they are allways critical and outspoken when they think their party does something wrong. But they will still vote for BJP as alternative is worse. Onus is on opposition to provide alternative. But instead of providing credible alternative they peddle lies. For example Rafale saga. Opposition allmost convinced supporters of BJP that there was some wrongdoing by various articles and various speeches. But then when matter came on floor of house for discussion, BJP leaders burned all their lies in just couple of days and opposition had nothing to say. You can watch the debates. So opposition only makes claims outside parliament but when truth is shown they go running. Covid crisis will come on floor of house and I can guarantee, all opposition will do is boycott and get out while BJP will answer everything. For example i was pissed on Yogi for conducting Gram Panchayat elections during pandemic. It was absolutely unforgivable decision in my opinion as Gram Panchayat election can wait. But only now , today I came to know that some asshole had filed a petition and Allahabad High Court had ordered UP Govmnt to conduct election and declare results by May 10. Now, I have been saying that data collection in runup to pandemic is probably root cause. Lets see objectively who was in power in most major cities. Kolaka -Mamata, Chennai- Aiadmk, Dlhi Kejri , Mumbai- Vasooli Bhaiya. So, i will wait for issue to come in parliament. And then make my mind. That is not what i have observed so far. Most of them would stick up for every goddamn thing he does. This is the first time i see. Basically because they lost their dear ones. Just because there is no viable opposition it is not right to look the other way. So basically if there is no opponents at all they are permitted to whatever they want? Modi is a polarizing figure. He will win as long as he is around unless and until there is a strong leader emerging from the other party. It is a travesty that India has no strong opposition party. In any other country they would have faced the heat.
Bigg Brother Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, Yoda-esque said: 12 minutes ago, Bigg Brother said: I dont know about you,neither I was talking about you nor I know who is from where on this place. I'm talking about people from my close circle who have been hardcore supporters. So, yeah my point is that.. I just refuted your point As I already mentioned I dont even know where are you from (Lets just not talk about Hard core supporter and chest thumping), I was only replying to the guy who mentioned about people being pissed off, There are "many" from my college circle who are living abroad doing their residency, we often talk weekly on various platforms who are still stubborn not knowing anything about the situation here, doing their residency happily (Not so happily now) there.Even if you are qualified for all three category I mentioned (NRI, Hard Core Supporter, Chest thumper), It was not meant for you as world is large and I dont know you and If I wanted to engage with anyone here I would directly quote that person. It was just a general observation about my people and I posted to vvs when he mentioned..
vvvslaxman Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 4 hours ago, Bigg Brother said: Those who are affected, Yes. Otherwise there are still many who are doing chest thumping specially NRIs sitting behind computers from the comfort of their home.. 101% correct Under_Score 1
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