Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Actually i have been having this strong feeling with Ishant for long, the way ball is coming out of his hand for a quite i expect him to do a lot of damage overseas. Unfortunately he was injured during Aus tour but now we have england tour and i always believed that in seamer friendly condition he become more dangerous then our other bowler. I thought of making this thread only on Ishant but the way Siraj has been bowling its impossible to ignore. Soon he ll be among the Top bowlers in world and it ll happen very very soon. This tour can actually make Ishant number really really better. Like we saw in 2007 how Zak n RP hunted in pair or in past with Wasim Waqar, this tour it would be Ishant-Siraj, ofcourse kohli shudnt bench them. Also if Ashwin remains fit through out he ll be big problem for opposition. This is India's best chance to win in england as these current england batsman are very below avg kind of players IF they give green tracks - their batsman cant play seam swing If they give flat deck - our batsman will score to but our bowlers have pace n skill............in England Wood doesnt have the skill of a shami, bumrah or Siraj It the weather is hot and tracks are flat then by 4th 5th day it ll help spinners and these guys are very bad against spin Link to comment
Lord Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Our bowling will be fine.It was good even in 2018 It's the batsmen who have to do the job.Last series we choked chasing low targets With Pant,Gill we have hope Siraj will play a big role obviously,but I expect Thakur,Sundar to have a role too since its a 5 match series Link to comment
Norman Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 I think we'll win the series this time around. England are a mess.. Anderson and Broad are clearly over the hill Archer and Wood won't be that big of a threat We will most certainly not lose 5/5 tosses Team should be much more confident in 4th inning chasing after Sydney and Brisbane. Wickets will definitely start turning in late August bringing Ashwin and Jadeja into play.. Sam Curran won't play a single Test (most likely) express bowling 1 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Had Ishant played the Christchurch game in NZ perhaps we could have made a game out of it. He is that good in Seaming conditions. He is our best simply. Siraj is in red hot form & best Indian pacer in last 4-5 months easily. I hope we utilize his golden run totally. express bowling 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 16, 2021 Author Share Posted June 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Lord said: Our bowling will be fine.It was good even in 2018 It's the batsmen who have to do the job.Last series we choked chasing low targets With Pant,Gill we have hope Siraj will play a big role obviously,but I expect Thakur,Sundar to have a role too since its a 5 match series jadeja, pant, gill and improved ashwin the batsman...we do have a bit more cushion in batting this time. But again as we say in every series a lot wud depend on these 3 - pujara, kohli, rahane Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) My worry is how many games will Siraj get on the entire tour This TM's pecking order is clear - Bumrah, Ishant, Shami, Umesh and Siraj. They preferred Umesh over Siraj in Australia and his inclusion in the 15 for WTC shows his status. If Bhuvi does well in SL, I will not be surprised if he is sent to England and plays ahead of Siraj if an opportunity comes. Edited June 16, 2021 by ShoonyaSifar Link to comment
Majestic Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) My major worry is that the law of averages might not work for us. I read it somewhere and posting below. This is India in England in last three tours:- 2014:- England played Sri Lanka before India toured them. Sri Lanka won the series 1-0 and we lost 3-1. 2018:- England played Pakistan before India again toured them. Pakistan drew the series 1-1 and we lost 4-1. 2021:- England played New Zealand before India are touring them. NEW Zealand won the series 1-0 and let's see what we do this time. I have high doubts in my mind that we will win the coming series Vs England because England surely won't afford to lose both the home series they are playing this season. They will play their best XI and look to beat us 3-1 or 4-1 again. Edited June 16, 2021 by Majestic Link to comment
Lord Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 58 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said: My worry is how many games will Siraj get on the entire tour This TM's pecking order is clear - Bumrah, Ishant, Shami, Umesh and Siraj. They preferred Umesh over Siraj in Australia and his inclusion in the 15 for WTC shows his status. If Bhuvi does well in SL, I will not be surprised if he is sent to England and plays ahead of Siraj if an opportunity comes. Surely Siraj has done enough to pip Umesh and others except top 3 Also did well in India Plus RCB player express bowling 1 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, Majestic said: My major worry is that the law of averages might not work for us. I read it somewhere and posting below. This is India in England in last three tours:- 2014:- England played Sri Lanka before India toured them. Sri Lanka won the series 1-0 and we lost 3-1. 2018:- England played Pakistan before India again toured them. Pakistan drew the series 1-1 and we lost 4-1. 2021:- England played New Zealand before India are touring them. NEW Zealand won the series 1-0 and let's see what we do this time. I have high doubts in my mind that we will win the coming series Vs England because England surely won't afford to lose both the home series they are playing this season. They will play their best XI and look to beat us 3-1 or 4-1 again. England will be far stronger than what it was vs NZ but since Indian team is there for a longer period & provided our pace attack remains fit we will be favorites for sure in case we win WTC final. If we lose WTC final things will be 50-50 on both sides. Link to comment
maniac Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Have big hopes for Siraj in these conditions. This is perfect for his length. Ishant only concern is fitness. Not easy to come back to full match fitness for a fast bowler after a long layoff once you hit 30. Also we need to be wary that all our prime bowlers Ishant,Shami and Umesh are 30+ now. Looks like Bhuvi is done from real cricket. need to start developing a pool. It took us a while to get this dream combo. Lone Wolf and express bowling 2 Link to comment
Majestic Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: England will be far stronger than what it was vs NZ but since Indian team is there for a longer period & provided our pace attack remains fit we will be favorites for sure in case we win WTC final. If we lose WTC final things will be 50-50 on both sides. I don't think we will win both. But if we win, it's great. However, I would take a win in WTC Final and a competitive 3-2 type series loss Vs England. Link to comment
BacktoCricaddict Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) WTC match is a good practice match for the rest of the tour ;-). Edited June 16, 2021 by BacktoCricaddict express bowling, nevada and Norman 3 Link to comment
Vilander Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 painta of epic proportions await England.. harharhar.. every oldie team needs to go through this humiliation.. Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 22 minutes ago, Vilander said: painta of epic proportions await England.. harharhar.. every oldie team needs to go through this humiliation.. Barring Broad & Anders not too many oldies over there.. If anything they are going through a mini transition. Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 45 minutes ago, maniac said: Have big hopes for Siraj in these conditions. This is perfect for his length. Ishant only concern is fitness. Not easy to come back to full match fitness for a fast bowler after a long layoff once you hit 30. Also we need to be wary that all our prime bowlers Ishant,Shami and Umesh are 30+ now. Looks like Bhuvi is done from real cricket. need to start developing a pool. It took us a while to get this dream combo. Umesh is super fit.. Don't see any reason he can't continue bowling for 3-4 years more. Ishant will be first one to go & probably deserves the WTC silverware might be his last. Shami will also be there till next WTC final. In between we need to groom Tyagi & offer Prasidh few red ball games in India if possible. Link to comment
Norman Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 42 minutes ago, Majestic said: I don't think we will win both. But if we win, it's great. However, I would take a win in WTC Final and a competitive 3-2 type series loss Vs England. Wholeheartedly... 'World Test Champions' sounds much better than 'LV insurance series winners'. Link to comment
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