maniac Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 SRH just dropped Warner and it worked wonders but would a player of Warner’s stature been dropped by an Indian coach? I don’t think someone like Shastri would make such calls. I mean we are struggling to find an excuse to drop Rahane and Pujara in tests. tweaker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 In IPL - yes . IPL doesnt work on emotion, their is accountability to franchise owners. IPL works like how a corporate do (apart from CSK) Vk1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Warner replaced by Roy. Who do we replace Rahane/Pujara with. Gambhir was also dropped by DD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share Posted September 27, 2021 Just now, Lord said: Warner replaced by Roy. Who do we replace Rahane/Pujara with. Gambhir was also dropped by DD who was their coach then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 minute ago, maniac said: SRH just dropped Warner and it worked wonders but would a player of Warner’s stature been dropped by an Indian coach? I don’t think someone like Shastri would make such calls. I mean we are struggling to find an excuse to drop Rahane and Pujara in tests. Extrapolating much? Warner is in an IPL side that has almost certainly guaranteed itself the Wooden Spoon. They have nothing at stake. It is easy to drop a Warner in this scenario. IPL players are paid prorated to availability for the games and not by actual games played. Warner would be happy to sit it out in this scenario. Finally the call up/drop has no bearing on Warner's selection chances for Australia. Far too much is at stake in an India match up. Dropping a Rahane may be the death knell of his test career. Shastri also has to blood in long term replacements etc. Lord, tweaker and f20143g70 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, maniac said: who was their coach then? no idea. Laxman is coaching SRH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: In IPL - yes . IPL doesnt work on emotion, their is accountability to franchise owners. IPL works like how a corporate do (apart from CSK) Warner and Smith were banned by Aussie board even though ICC had banned them for a minor violation for a couple of games. In England we just lost an opportunity to win a series. No way will England give a free win to india and no way BCCI will accept forfeit. So the series will always be with an *. Who is being held accountable for that? All the news about Kohli seems more like discreet politics than a straightforward punishment. We need a foregin coach too with some powers like Chappell. Chappell was poor with people skills but was a damn good coach, we need someone like that for the current batch of prima donnas with better communication skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Lord said: no idea. Laxman is coaching SRH Laxman is a consultant. Moody is above him officially at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 minute ago, maniac said: Warner and Smith were banned by Aussie board even though ICC had banned them for a minor violation for a couple of games. In England we just lost an opportunity to win a series. No way will England give a free win to india and no way BCCI will accept forfeit. So the series will always be with an *. Who is being held accountable for that? All the news about Kohli seems more like discreet politics than a straightforward punishment. We need a foregin coach too with some powers like Chappell. Chappell was poor with people skills but was a damn good coach, we need someone like that for the current batch of prima donnas with better communication skills. ur comparing international with IPL as i said IPL doesnt work on emotion and also foreign teams dnt Aise to amarnath ne himmat ki thi dhoni ko drop krne ki Dhoni dropped seniors in his young days of captaincy We actually need a team director who is basically ruthless like how dhoni was as captain. Team director is over coach n captain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Warner plays in 1 of the 4 international slots. There is usually a rotation of international players. SRH has only won 2 in 10 games so nothing much at stake. Lord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSK Fan Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: In IPL - yes . IPL doesnt work on emotion, their is accountability to franchise owners. IPL works like how a corporate do (apart from CSK) If this was true, kohli would have been removed as captain years ago. Brand and big names are more important than wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share Posted September 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, zen said: Warner plays in 1 of the 4 international slots. There is usually a rotation of international players. SRH has only won 2 in 10 games so nothing much at stake. Warner was rightfully dropped. That’s not the problem. The question is can Indian coaches take such calls when up against big stars is the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share Posted September 27, 2021 14 minutes ago, Mariyam said: Far too much is at stake in an India match up. Dropping a Rahane may be the death knell of his test career. Shastri also has to blood in long term replacements etc. we still haven’t resolved the no.4 slot yet after 4 years. SKY while he is the flavor of the season, is 3 bad games away from saying bye bye to his international career. The point is Indian coaches are not known for their out of the box thinking, innovation and tough calls. Might sound like a generalization and sterotype but based on the examples in front of us, it sounds like a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, maniac said: Warner was rightfully dropped. That’s not the problem. The question is can Indian coaches take such calls when up against big stars is the question. Would be difficult as the decision would involve replacing the star player with a relatively fringe player There are handful of star players -> Dhoni (retired), Kohli, Rohit, KL, SDP, Pant, Jadeja, and Bumrah ... Guys like Ashwin have been benched if I am not wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 43 minutes ago, maniac said: we still haven’t resolved the no.4 slot yet after 4 years. SKY while he is the flavor of the season, is 3 bad games away from saying bye bye to his international career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 minute ago, velu said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Just now, maniac said: oh .. thought you are talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoonyaSifar Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Was he dropped for poor form? Looks more like the case of him having fallen out with the SRH management since being replaced as a captain. Has looked disinterested and aloof since then. In all likelihood, SRH will release him for the next auction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 5 hours ago, CSK Fan said: If this was true, kohli would have been removed as captain years ago. Brand and big names are more important than wins kohli is a huge brand in India which serves one of the biggest purpose for franchise- money Warner isnt a brand a india, big name in cricket but not brand so loss of form n having issue with TM has gone against him Wins matter at the end of the day , if not then u have to be a kohli like a brand which is currently biggest brand in India. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 13 hours ago, maniac said: Laxman is a consultant. Moody is above him officially at least. SRh coach is Bayliss, iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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