Comparisons of EPL (& England) , IPL (& India),

[coffee_rules]

Since the advent of EPL (in the 1990s) , England has never won the European Championship (UEFA) let alone the WC since 1966.

 

IPL is as thriving as EPL, but India might never win T20 WC since the start of IPL.

 

Who cares for T20 WC? Meh

[SK_IH]

India can win, it's not a bad team. Need more clarity of thought, good leadership & less anchors, India will be contenders. 

[QuarantineTormentino]

England National football team gives wayy more opportunities to a lot of youngsters lmao. There’s no senior culture in there

[sensible-indian]

Atleast EPL is prestigious.

 

IPL has no prestige cos T20s is a rotten format.

 

No one remembers any performance in IPL (or even T20Is) after a few days.

 

This is where the problem lies for cricket.

Edited November 9, 2021 by sensible-indian

[Adi_91]

37 minutes ago, sensible-indian said:

Atleast EPL is prestigious.

 

IPL has no prestige cos T20s is a rotten format.

 

No one remembers any performance in IPL (or even T20Is) after a few days.

 

This is where the problem lies for cricket.

 

T20 is a format that is probably more popular among the small population that doesn't follow cricket in general. So this is slightly off this hypothesis.

 

IPL is not the evil for Ind's trophy drought. In fact, if anything, we were not winning much before IPL either.

 

 

[coffee_rules]

37 minutes ago, Adi_91 said:

 

T20 is a format that is probably more popular among the small population that doesn't follow cricket in general. So this is slightly off this hypothesis.

 

IPL is not the evil for Ind's trophy drought. In fact, if anything, we were not winning much before IPL either.

 

 

Thanks for getting my point. Some of them here and even Kapil Dev say, IPL is the reason for India not winning T20 WC, club or city sports can’t or need not ensure national success like EPL does to England.
 

Having said that, I certainly mock  fans as they have maximum representation this year in the national team and we are facking out after first round. Show them their aukat. Nothing against IPL. It is fine and entertainment like Bollywood movies 

[Adi_91]

Just now, coffee_rules said:

Thanks for getting my point. Some of them here and even Kapil Dev say, IPL is the reason for India not winning T20 WC, club or city sports can’t or need not ensure national success like EPL does to England.
 

Having said that, I certainly mock  fans as they have maximum representation this year in the national team and we are facking out after first round. Show them their aukat. Nothing against IPL. It is fine and entertainment like Bollywood movies 

 

I knew the moment MI faltered this year that Ind's fortunes too may go that direction given the numbers from there. I am unfortunately proven right. 

[sensible-indian]

3 hours ago, Adi_91 said:

 

T20 is a format that is probably more popular among the small population that doesn't follow cricket in general. So this is slightly off this hypothesis.

 

IPL is not the evil for Ind's trophy drought. In fact, if anything, we were not winning much before IPL either.

 

 

Im not saying IPL is evil.

 

Just saying its not prestigious.

 

Cricket is a game of mini engrossing battles which t20 greatly dilutes

[sage]

at least England got to semis and final in the last two tournaments. used to find english football similarity with india but this time we didn't even leave knockouts. 

[R!TTER]

25 minutes ago, sage said:

at least England got to semis and final in the last two tournaments

Right, do I need to remind you of India's greatest ever Choker & his achievements?

[goose]

The EPL would never finish 1-2 weeks before the start of the Euros that's for sure.

 

 

[Norman]

There's no comparison.

 

The level of competition is exponentially more in football compared to cricket. There are at least 15 teams in Europe alone, who are extremely competitive and can beat any team on their day. 

 

In addition, the revenue gap between the English FA and the likes of Spanish, French, German FAs isn't anywhere as big that between the BCCI and other boards. 

 

If cricket had a footbal level of following and competition, I'm sure the Indian team would not even make the KOs most of the time as (apart from a select few) , Indian cricket history is filled with serial bottlers and mental midgets. 

[coffee_rules]

Again, not saying EPL=IPL

 

England not winning Euro/WC even with EPL = India not winning T20 WC even with IPL

[Khota]

10 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Since the advent of EPL (in the 1990s) , England has never won the European Championship (UEFA) let alone the WC since 1966.

 

IPL is as thriving as EPL, but India might never win T20 WC since the start of IPL.

 

Who cares for T20 WC? Meh

Pretty poor post. EPL is competing with Laliga, Bundesliga along with the French league which is very competitive. IPL has no competition. Issue is Shastri/zKohli etc. with poor analytical abilities and no forward thinking. Need to get some baseball experts to introduce them to modern Analytics and get them out of stone age

 

[sage]

The point of comparison that is true is that England despite being the richest footballing nation with biggest media hype and celeb culture in football has underachieved and so has India in cricket.

[coffee_rules]

6 minutes ago, Khota said:

Pretty poor post. EPL is competing with Laliga, Bundesliga along with the French league which is very competitive. IPL has no competition. Issue is Shastri/zKohli etc. with poor analytical abilities and no forward thinking. Need to get some baseball experts to introduce them to modern Analytics and get them out of stone age

 

ZSo, what is England's excuse for not winning WC/or Euro cup, even with all the modern analytics and forward thinking?

[kepler37b]

11 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Since the advent of EPL (in the 1990s) , England has never won the European Championship (UEFA) let alone the WC since 1966.

 

IPL is as thriving as EPL, but India might never win T20 WC since the start of IPL.

 

Who cares for T20 WC? Meh

Bhaai...Correlation is NOT Causation. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[coffee_rules]

Just now, kepler37b said:

Bhaai...Correlation is NOT Causation. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Aha, famous adage, I am not saying EPL=IPL is the cause of India;s failure to use that adage.  Expecting India to win just because of thriving IPL is not on. India needs to address the inherent drawbacks - have roles and different players for different formats. 

[Khota]

9 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

ZSo, what is England's excuse for not winning WC/or Euro cup, even with all the modern analytics and forward thinking?

Because they are competing with everyone using the same tactics. Then it comes down to athletes and England just does not have what Germany or France or Italy and Spain does.Football will expose every fault line you have.

[Khota]

13 minutes ago, sage said:

The point of comparison that is true is that England despite being the richest footballing nation with biggest media hype and celeb culture in football has underachieved and so has India in cricket.

England has underachieved because of competition.  India has underachieved because of competence. Indias problems can be fixed

 Not true for England.