1 century in last 82 innings for Kohli, Rahane and Pujara combined

[Texan]

Water is above head level now. These guys MUST go. I don't care what they do in the second innings. 

[Vijy]

18 minutes ago, SRT100 said:

 

Tendulkar average in SENA is better than all of them, doesnt mean we should be playing him.

 

Averages should be looked at only recently and not historically in terms of current team selection.

 

 

 

 

 

@express bowling @Vijy

Are we sure we should not play SRT? I saw him in some exhibition tourney from 2020/2021 and he looked in excellent touch. He can't do worse than Rahane (or Rihanna).

 

On a more serious note, recent form is obviously the more important as well as the player's intrinsic propensity to do well (or not) in given conditions. For e.g., the selection of Keaton Jennings for the Ind tour was an excellent decision because he was in good knick and his game was suited for SC. Now, if Eng were to play him in Oz, it would be a bad move for the same criteria: not in form and game not suited for these conditions. Similarly, we should be looking at players who are either in good form (e.g., Iyer), have a sound game for the conditions (e.g., Sundar), or both.

[Nikola]

Pujara used to average 53 few years ago and now he is 44. It has been 47 innings since he hit his last hundred (India tour of Australia 2018-19). If he continues to play few more matches his average might drop below 40. I can't remember any player playing close to 100 matches having this much drop in average. Rahane too averaged 50+ back in 2016/17 i guess and since then it has been only downfall for him. Now he too averages around 38 and if he keeps playing he might end up around 35. This average is good for batsman who could bowl or is an wicketkeeper not specialist batsman like both of them.

[Vijy]

1 hour ago, Nikola said:

Pujara used to average 53 few years ago and now he is 44. It has been 47 innings since he hit his last hundred (India tour of Australia 2018-19). If he continues to play few more matches his average might drop below 40. I can't remember any player playing close to 100 matches having this much drop in average. Rahane too averaged 50+ back in 2016/17 i guess and since then it has been only downfall for him. Now he too averages around 38 and if he keeps playing he might end up around 35. This average is good for batsman who could bowl or is an wicketkeeper not specialist batsman like both of them.

It was 53 in late 2017; so about 4+ yrs ago. I don't think his avg will go below 40 anytime soon. He would need to play quite a lot of matches for that: about 30 innings more at an avg of 20 to get there. Rahane's avg has more chances to slip faster.

[express bowling]

7 hours ago, SRT100 said:

 

Tendulkar average in SENA is better than all of them, doesnt mean we should be playing him.

 

Averages should be looked at only recently and not historically in terms of current team selection.

 

 

@express bowling @Vijy

 

 

Absolutely !

 

A moving average of the last 18 months should be the key parameter used to gauge current form and ability. Same for SR in white ball cricket.

 

Career averages are good only for selecting theoritical ATG 11s.   : )

 

 

 

 

[SRT100]

8 hours ago, Vijy said:

Are we sure we should not play SRT? I saw him in some exhibition tourney from 2020/2021 and he looked in excellent touch. He can't do worse than Rahane (or Rihanna).

 

On a more serious note, recent form is obviously the more important as well as the player's intrinsic propensity to do well (or not) in given conditions. For e.g., the selection of Keaton Jennings for the Ind tour was an excellent decision because he was in good knick and his game was suited for SC. Now, if Eng were to play him in Oz, it would be a bad move for the same criteria: not in form and game not suited for these conditions. Similarly, we should be looking at players who are either in good form (e.g., Iyer), have a sound game for the conditions (e.g., Sundar), or both.

 

Im not joking here, I would rather SRT that was maybe just 5 years younger than his current age over Rahane, any day, every day of the week.

 

SRT at his current age, is probably on par with Rahane in 2022. Thats an embarrassment on Rahane.

[SRT100]

8 hours ago, Texan said:

Water is above head level now. These guys MUST go. I don't care what they do in the second innings. 

 

I badly want them to fail in the 2nd innings to make the selectors decision a lot easier.

 

The worst thing that could happen is for Rahane or Pujara to score a solid 40+ runs.

[sage]

This 2nd innings is going to be the most important for 2/3 of the trimurti in a long time. God hope they fail

[Chakdephatte]

19 hours ago, Vijy said:

They are quickly closing in on that elusive 100. And by "100", I mean 100 innings without a century since that knock by Bwahane

Actually it's 100 innings with just 1 century. It's 72 innings since that Rahane ton.

Edited January 4, 2022 by Chakdephatte

[Chakdephatte]

7 hours ago, SRT100 said:

 

I badly want them to fail in the 2nd innings to make the selectors decision a lot easier.

 

The worst thing that could happen is for Rahane or Pujara to score a solid 40+ runs.

How unfortunate that those 'solid 40+' has been accepted as a milestone by all of us. No other players in a top team can save their place with just one odd fifty every ten innings.

[Texan]

I honestly don't care what they end up scoring tomorrow. If they can manage to score runs only when their Test careers are on the line, then I wouldn't want such players in the team anyway.

[sarcastic]

1 hour ago, Texan said:

I honestly don't care what they end up scoring tomorrow. If they can manage to score runs only when their Test careers are on the line, then I wouldn't want such players in the team anyway.

But they are proving themselves now though. Pujara already looked aggressive and showing that he is invaluable and why we should persist with him.

It is like Sehwag in early 2000's in ODIs where he gets out most of the time for a small score. But the one time he clicks, he wins you the match. So, it is a question of gaining that consistency.

Edited January 4, 2022 by sarcastic

[Texan]

4 hours ago, sarcastic said:

But they are proving themselves now though. Pujara already looked aggressive and showing that he is invaluable and why we should persist with him.

It is like Sehwag in early 2000's in ODIs where he gets out most of the time for a small score. But the one time he clicks, he wins you the match. So, it is a question of gaining that consistency.

 

You are equating Pujara to Sehwag??? Pujara is nowhere close to the matchwinner you are suggesting that he is. In fact, he is probably the worst of the trioka. As soon as he comes in, he starts plodding even bad balls and allows the bowlers to start dominating. Don't get fooled by the body blows he takes. It is only because he cannot play short pitched stuff that he ends up getting hit. He was okay at one time, but now is a big liability. Except for that one monster series in Aus, he only has two other hundreds outside Asia, which is a pathetic record for someone who has played so many Test matches. 

[sage]

Both secure bare-minimum 50s to prolong the torture

 

[Vijy]

4 hours ago, sage said:

Both secure bare-minimum 50s to prolong the torture

 

expect to see them for another year.

[nevada]

Have they reached 100 yet? Someone post the latest count, please!

[Vijy]

10 hours ago, nevada said:

Have they reached 100 yet? Someone post the latest count, please!

must be close to 90 now.

[SRT100]

On 12/26/2021 at 11:27 PM, Chakdephatte said:

89 now. 

That was on Dec 26.

 

There has been another 10 innings played by all three of them now.

We are up to 99 Test innings played by Pujara, Kohli and Rahane for just one century.

 

Its really surprising that India has won a lot of tests in this period.

 

 

 

@Vijy@express bowling

[Chakdephatte]

1 minute ago, SRT100 said:

That was on Dec 26.

There has been another 10 innings played by all three of them now.

We are up to 99 Test innings played by Pujara, Kohli and Rahane for just one century.

 

Its really surprising that India has won a lot of tests in this period.

@Vijy@express bowling

 

So, in the nervous 90s. I wish they don't get stuck in the 90s. Please get to the 100 we were waiting 

[SRT100]

6 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said:

 

So, in the nervous 90s. I wish they don't get stuck in the 90s. Please get to the 100 we were waiting 

With Pujara, Kohli and Rahane a lock to play in the third test.

 

It will take the tally to 105 after the 3rd Test.

 

It literally is incomprehensible when you think about it, assuming ~6 innings a test, thats ~ 16 test matches where this trio have scored just one century.

 

Would love to know the probability of a team winning a test match, when a batsman scores a century?