Surya kumar Yadav is a national treasure

[Vijy]

On 8/8/2023 at 2:25 PM, Gollum said:

King of soft and useless runs. Forget WC KOs against Eng/Aus/NZ/Pak, I doubt he can fire in an Asia cup must-win game against Afg/BD. How many mental midgets can a squad possibly carry?

11 of them in the playing team, and 15 in the squad

[vvvslaxman]

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/suryakumar-yadav-seeks-to-rectify-odi-template-my-numbers-are-really-bad-1391531

Suryakumar Yadav: No shame in admitting 'really bad' ODI record

 

 

Suryakumar Yadav feels there is "no shame" in admitting that his performance in ODIs has been "really bad" and that he wanted to find a way to succeed in the 50-over format.

 

He has played 26 ODIs so far and averages only 24.33, though his strike rate is 101.38. Suryakumar made scores of 19, 24 and 35 in the recent ODI series in the West Indies, and prior to that had been dismissed for three consecutive first-ball ducks against Australia in March.

 

"Because we play a lot more T20Is, we know that we only need to express ourselves as per the situation," Suryakumar said after his match-winning half-century in the third T20I against West Indies. "But ODIs are a format which we don't play a lot of. And it's a challenging format for me - if you lose early wickets, you have to take your time like in a Test; it is only at the end that you approach it like a T20.

 

"If I am honest with myself, my numbers in ODIs are really bad. And there's no shame in admitting that; everyone knows that already. You need to be honest with yourself; but then, getting better is also important. That is what Rohit [Sharma] and Rahul [Dravid] sir have told me that because I don't play a lot of ODIs, I need to practice and think as to what I can do. I can take my time, and if I happen to be at the crease in the last 10-15 overs, then I need to think for myself as to what I can do for the team.

 

"They have told me that all they want me to do is face 45-50 balls in an innings. They have told that I can play my game during my stay at the crease, just that I need to face that many balls if I get to bat in the last 15-18 overs. Now I need to convert that opportunity into responsibility, and bat as per the requirements of the team."

 

India have two more ODI series - the Asia Cup and a home series against Australia - before the World Cup but they will have to name an initial World Cup squad of 15 by September 5, a month before the tournament begins on October 5. Time may be running out for Suryakumar to strengthen his case for World Cup selection, but whether he makes it or not also depends on whether KL Rahul and Shreyas Iyer recover in time from their injuries.

 

"We have seven or eight games before the World Cup, which is enough for preparation," Suryakumar said. "We also have a camp, where we will all gather. It's important to spend time with each other, and know each other's strengths and weaknesses."

[vvvslaxman]

So based on the above article SKY is still in the scheme of things. They are "training" him to be a good successful ODI batsman. Mentally as well. He is bloody 32 years old. He is learning how to switch to ODI from T20.  This is a massive gamble.

[Vijy]

4 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

So based on the above article SKY is still in the scheme of things. They are "training" him to be a good successful ODI batsman. Mentally as well. He is bloody 32 years old. He is learning how to switch to ODI from T20.  This is a massive gamble.

he is very young, "only" 32 yr old. still has 15 yr to learn the ODI game. another 20 yr to learn tests.

[cricketfan28]

here we go again.

[Frustrated]

Played 35 balls today against Toygers.  Missed 15 balls completely and 5 balls were edges which did not carry to the fielders.     Overrall control percentage 38%.   I bet even Chewal would hv better control percentage than this piece of s**t.      Should not be anywhere near the odi squad. 

[coffee_rules]

He was never cut out for ODIs.  Included in WC team as well. They made him play Tests as well.

[Austin 3:!6]

4 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

Played 35 balls today against Toygers.  Missed 15 balls completely and 5 balls were edges which did not carry to the fielders.     Overrall control percentage 38%.   I bet even Chewal would hv better control percentage than this piece of s**t.      Should not be anywhere near the odi squad. 

 

I think the narrative is on his day he can single handedly win you games etc etc. So TM has gone with that hype and waiting for that day to come

[Frustrated]

1 minute ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

 

I think the narrative is on his day he can single handedly win you games etc etc. So TM has gone with that hype and waiting for that day to come

That is like waiting to see a penguin in sahara desert.   

[Gollum]

Thing is this ODI experiment will shatter his confidence and mess up his T20 career, one format where he can help us win something worthwhile. In less than a year's time we have next T20 WC. 

[Need4Speed]

SKY has shown that he currently doesnt have the temperament and game for ODIs esp for team India…

this type of agressive intent may work for teams like Englad who bat deep but teams like India with shallow batting depth..you will need to bat longer unfortunately and take more responsibility..to cover up for lack of batting depth..

lets not confuse him by playing multiple formats..and let him be very best in T20s

[Norman]

More like an international embarassment in longer formats.

[Norman]

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Edited September 15, 2023 by Norman

[vvvslaxman]

Even sarfraz would be a better choice than him. India can even try prithvi shaw ahead of him

[Vk1]

Don't go by these crazy pitches.. WC would be different. I have a hunch that SKY will be a game changer for us.. expect him to win us couple of crucial games 

[Frustrated]

21 minutes ago, Vk1 said:

Don't go by these crazy pitches.. WC would be different. I have a hunch that SKY will be a game changer for us.. expect him to win us couple of crucial games 

His overall odi avg of 22 after having played 30 games (which is a big sample size) says it all.  It is obvious that he has not played all these 30 games on only crazy pitches.  Morever, there is no certainty that every indian pitch will be a flat patta tailor made for his style of play.  Many indian pitches like chennai, kolkata, lucknow etc assist spin and he is a sitting duck against any half decent left arm spinner.   We saw how crap he was against no name windies bowlers in that Odi series.  

Edited September 15, 2023 by Frustrated

[Vk1]

50 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

His overall odi avg of 22 after having played 30 games (which is a big sample size) says it all.  It is obvious that he has not played all these 30 games on only crazy pitches.  Morever, there is no certainty that every indian pitch will be a flat patta tailor made for his style of play.  Many indian pitches like chennai, kolkata, lucknow etc assist spin and he is a sitting duck against any half decent left arm spinner.   We saw how crap he was against no name windies bowlers in that Odi series.  

 

partially agree with you but don't go  just by numbers.. there's a reason why match winners have such huge importance in LoI cricket.. there's no bigger match winner in middle order than SKY.. he can do a Symmonds-2003 which you won't expect from anyone in our current middle order

Edited September 15, 2023 by Vk1

[putrevus]

Andrew Symonds was was a great talent. He could have been much more if not falling prey to his vices.

 

He was an allrounder , who was electric in the field.

 

Aussies might not have 2003 or 2007 world cup without him. You need such players if teams needs to win in difficult spots.

Edited September 16, 2023 by putrevus

[vvvslaxman]

2 hours ago, Vk1 said:

 

partially agree with you but don't go  just by numbers.. there's a reason why match winners have such huge importance in LoI cricket.. there's no bigger match winner in middle order than SKY.. he can do a Symmonds-2003 which you won't expect from anyone in our current middle order

 

He is not a match winner in ODI. In T20 mindset of bowler is different. Also bowlers don't bowl long spells. Just 1 or 2 overs. his job is to upset them before they settle down and move on to next bowler. not the same in ODI. Good bowlers can bowl 5 overs on the trot. f he had done something outstanding at domestic level we would have known. Heck Even Venkatesh iyer had a great season. Jagadeesan scored 800 runs in a single season. Ruturaj has about 6 or 7 centuries in 12 VH matches. There are so many performers. Even Riyan Paraag has great record. All these guys were left out for this guy. very unfair. 

[Frustrated]

6 hours ago, Vk1 said:

 

partially agree with you but don't go  just by numbers.. there's a reason why match winners have such huge importance in LoI cricket.. there's no bigger match winner in middle order than SKY.. he can do a Symmonds-2003 which you won't expect from anyone in our current middle order

Symonds was a batting AR.   Took crucial wickets with the ball in almost every match.   His overall value to the side was immense.  While SKY is a specialist batsman whose avg and SR are at par with Shardul (who is our no 9 batter).  

Edited September 16, 2023 by Frustrated