Canada expels Indian diplomat; Indian government agents behind killing of Sikh leader - Trudeau

[mishra]

22 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

 

French and British were historical enemies. French revolution is considered the mother of all revolutions.

Yes, Brits take all credit, But in reality, Its French who changed Europe. There is no doubt that if India wasnt opccupied for over 1000 years from rest of world they wont have figured out a better way to coexist in world for themselves. Common Sense

Edited October 22, 2024 by mishra

[zen]

39 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

 

French and British were historical enemies. French revolution is considered the mother of all revolutions.

Yeah, Europeans have had wars against each other not only in Europe, but also in other territories. 

Every (or most if you prefer) major European empire has had influence in one way or the other, beginning with the Roman Empire. 
 

Earlier, the Vikings, the Germans, and the French influenced Britain too.

Europe has an interesting history. Have to refresh myself on this. Just that I had an overdoes of non fiction so now have moved to reading fiction. May even write my next book if I get inspiration 

[mishra]

9 hours ago, ravishingravi said:

 

If you read the document, That Canadian CSIS Agent was given UK Citizenship

[Ranvir]

9 hours ago, Vicks57 said:

 

Here comes the white Knight!! With his shining armour

 

My comment is strictly on how to respond to racist cunts who tell us to go back to your country.

 

Look at the people upvoting your comments. Biggest NRI Republicans on this forum @coffee_rules @ravishingravi. No surprises there. These idiots would gladly defend the racist white person over a abused person of color. Didn't these idiots try to clown Indian Canadian who spoke in French to the racist old white lady? Tells you a lot. I bet these cunts actively encourage their kids to date white people to be white adjacent.

 

USA is nothing without Jews. By that logic, Jews created the financial system and every tech industry is controlled by them. 

 

 

 

It's the white Americans who let the Jews move there. What was their status in Europe at the time? 

 

Whites know how to run countries. If the Jews weren't there America would still be a top tier nation. North West Europe hardly has any Jews and it's still an affluent region. Indians also only truly thrive when in white controlled nations. Places like India, Trinidad, Mauritius where Indians are a majority are a mess. Even here in the UK go and visit Wembley, Southall, Leicester. 

 

Just face facts and stop getting so easily offended. 

 

[gattaca]

2 hours ago, Vicks57 said:

 

Argentina is 99 percent white. They killed all natives and exported all their black slaves to Brazil. Why is it so poor?

 

Why is Eastern Europe poor?

 

Simple, all the countries in western Europe practiced colonisation. They all got rich on back off it. Only exception is Scandinavian countries which all got oil resources just like UAE and Saudi. 

 

Mauritius is the richest country in Africa and it's GDP per capita is better than Albania and Belarus.

 

Scandinavian countries taught Europe how to colonize. 

[Ranvir]

4 hours ago, Vicks57 said:

 

Argentina is 99 percent white. They killed all natives and exported all their black slaves to Brazil. Why is it so poor?

 

Why is Eastern Europe poor?

 

Simple, all the countries in western Europe practiced colonisation. They all got rich on back off it. Only exception is Scandinavian countries which all got oil resources just like UAE and Saudi. 

 

Mauritius is the richest country in Africa and it's GDP per capita is better than Albania and Belarus.

 

Argentina is nowhere near 99% White. 56% of their population have some Native blood. And if you look at them visually a good 30-40% look like a mix of European with Native American. 

 

I was talking about North West Europe. Eastern Europe is quite poor. The past 200 years have belonged to North West Europeans but things always change. Look at where Greece is today. 

 

Germany never got rich of colonisation. 

[ravishingravi]

Well well well

 

 

[diga]

14 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:

Well well well

 

 

Those who live in glass houses .... 

[zen]

From what I have read:

 

* Amit Shah’s name has been mentioned  

* Ajit Doval has said to Canada that India will deny its involvement no matter what the evidence is

 

The consulate level “blame game” was relatively manageable but this is being taken to a level where it will be difficult for India to cooperate even if it wants to. 

 

Edited October 23, 2024 by zen

[zen]

Also if reports are to be believed - it highlights a shocking way to handle communications of covert operations by Indian officials.  It is their relatively casual approach (including multiple people being on a call, as if it is a get together event, and discussing names of senior leaders as if they are in a private and secure room) that has put Indian Intelligence (and therefore India) is this mess. 

Edited October 23, 2024 by zen

[Ranvir]

4 hours ago, Vicks57 said:

 

 

Ethnic groups: European 97%, mostly of Spanish and Italian descent; Mestizo, Amerindian or other nonwhite groups 3%.

Religions: Roman Catholic 92%, Protestant 2%, Jewish 2%, other 4%.

 

https://2009-2017.state.gov/outofdate/bgn/argentina/76765.htm#:~:text=Ethnic groups%3A European 97%%2C,2%%2C other 4%.

 

Argentina is probably whiter than some European countries.  It's like 97 percent white.

 

Germany just kept all their invasions within Europe.

 

That 97% figure is due to guys like Sergio Aguero, Carlos Tevez included as white in Argentina when they're clearly mixed race mestizos. Just go to YouTube and look at Argentinians celebrating their World Cup victory in Buenos Aires, so many of them are not white. When you look outside of Buenos Aires there's even more of them. 

[Mariyam]

5 hours ago, zen said:

From what I have read:

 

* Amit Shah’s name has been mentioned  

* Ajit Doval has said to Canada that India will deny its involvement no matter what the evidence is

 

The consulate level “blame game” was relatively manageable but this is being taken to a level where it will be difficult for India to cooperate even if it wants to. 

 

 

You have read all this but you wont share the source?

 

You are pulling a Trudeau here. 

[Mariyam]

Some rather strange things about the entire episode.

 

There is an ongoing case re: the murder of Nijjar. There are arrests made (5 or 6 people). The funny thing is that none of those have named any Indian official as a part of a conspiracy in their deposition. Or at least the deposition that was made public. Indian consular staff were allowed access as some (but not all) of them are Indian nationals.

 

Now, international law pertaining to diplomats and certain embassy staff states that if the said diplomatic staff is suspect of wrong doing, the home country has to judge if it is a heinous crime committed or a breach of a position of privilege. In case of the former, the host country has to file a separate case adjacent to their current investigation. If guilty, the sentence is carried out in the diplomats home country.

 

Canada has not yet filed any such case. 

[ravishingravi]

21 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

Some rather strange things about the entire episode.

 

There is an ongoing case re: the murder of Nijjar. There are arrests made (5 or 6 people). The funny thing is that none of those have named any Indian official as a part of a conspiracy in their deposition. Or at least the deposition that was made public. Indian consular staff were allowed access as some (but not all) of them are Indian nationals.

 

Now, international law pertaining to diplomats and certain embassy staff states that if the said diplomatic staff is suspect of wrong doing, the home country has to judge if it is a heinous crime committed or a breach of a position of privilege. In case of the former, the host country has to file a separate case adjacent to their current investigation. If guilty, the sentence is carried out in the diplomats home country.

 

Canada has not yet filed any such case. 

 

Indeed and they have said they have irrefutable evidence. I guess Trudeau checked with his ex wife and she found it irrefutable. 

[coffee_rules]

42 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

Some rather strange things about the entire episode.

 

There is an ongoing case re: the murder of Nijjar. There are arrests made (5 or 6 people). The funny thing is that none of those have named any Indian official as a part of a conspiracy in their deposition. Or at least the deposition that was made public. Indian consular staff were allowed access as some (but not all) of them are Indian nationals.

 

Now, international law pertaining to diplomats and certain embassy staff states that if the said diplomatic staff is suspect of wrong doing, the home country has to judge if it is a heinous crime committed or a breach of a position of privilege. In case of the former, the host country has to file a separate case adjacent to their current investigation. If guilty, the sentence is carried out in the diplomats home country.

 

Canada has not yet filed any such case. 

RCMP in the presser presented a case for Indian government to be involved with Nijjar murder. But they conveniently missed out telling anything about the 2 year old investigations going on for the murder of Ripudaman Singh Malik. He was a reformed ex-Khalistani acquitted from the Air India bombing case and Indian government  had removed him from the blacklist. Two people have  been arrested for the hired killing. India says Nijjar was involved. None of these were mentioned by the Mounties.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7211472

 

”Singh Malik's apparent abandonment of the Khalistani cause angered some more radical elements of the Sikh separatist movement. Indian media have suggested that his murder was the result of internecine feuds within Canada's Sikh community. Some accused Hardeep Singh Nijjar and his allies of the killing. Singh Malik's own family did not publicly blame the government of India, which they believed had reconciled with him.”

Edited October 23, 2024 by coffee_rules

[mishra]

54 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:

 

Indeed and they have said they have irrefutable evidence. I guess Trudeau checked with his ex wife and she found it irrefutable. 

Offcourse, If you post or even "Good Riddance" on Nijjar killing, You are a suspect. Thats the Freedom of Speech in Canada

[zen]

1 hour ago, Mariyam said:

 

You have read all this but you wont share the source?

 

You are pulling a Trudeau here. 

So Indian channels haven’t reported this so far? This is relatively common news  

[mishra]

8 hours ago, zen said:

From what I have read:

 

* Amit Shah’s name has been mentioned  

* Ajit Doval has said to Canada that India will deny its involvement no matter what the evidence is

 

The consulate level “blame game” was relatively manageable but this is being taken to a level where it will be difficult for India to cooperate even if it wants to. 

 

Why NOT Modi? Only attack Shah and Doval because they are weak

[zen]

55 minutes ago, mishra said:

Why NOT Modi? Only attack Shah and Doval because they are weak

It is implied that it goes all the way up to Modi as Shah reports to Modi. 

It basically means India will not cooperate as who would want to get involved in a matter involving the PM and the Home Minister. No wonder Doval did not accept the evidence. 
 

The US case was relatively simple as US allowed India to not only investigate (iirc) but also a way out through the rogue agents narrative. 
 

 Canada needed to keep it simple too. 

[zen]

If a R&AW team goes to the Home Minister to brief him that “we are facing X danger from terrorists based abroad, and we need to take this action before they can take that action”.
 

The Home Minister will simply say “Do your job. Do whatever needs to be done to protect India.”

 

The guys at the R&AW would be responsible for target identification, operations planning, and its execution. And they should not even be discussing the Home Minister after that. And there should be a code word for such a senior official. 
 

Silly business all around!

Edited October 23, 2024 by zen