Major terror attack underway in Gaza Strip

[vvvslaxman]

More gaslighting continues.

[vvvslaxman]

5 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

 

Unless the video is verified by an news source or newspaper, I am not taking it seriously. I always request people to not share such videos unless you are absolutely sure that it happened and it happened at that point of time

 

Problem is lot of news media are downsizing because people are getting their news from social media.

 

 

Lot of sketcy statistics are being shared on social media.

 

I went through this archive once again.  i saw this in the timeline . Who was the BJP leader in 1998?  He has this suggestion lol.

 

Feb 1998

The leader of India's Hindu-nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party says that Pakistan and Bangladesh should reunite with India. Pakistan dismisses the suggestion as wishful thinking, contending that it reveals India's hegemonistic ambitions (Agence France Presse, 02/09-11/98).

 

https://webarchive.archive.unhcr.org/20230518132850/https://www.refworld.org/docid/469f3869c.html

 

 

[someone]

44 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

 

I told you Akhand Bharat BJP are messing with our foreign policy and they are indirectly responsible for anger against bangla hindus.

 

 

How much of a coward can you be? Like if Hasina went out, because of BJP & Hindus as well.  or how before 2014, everything was rosy in our country & neighbors. Can't even call a spade a spade.

 

You are just a slave, and only want Hindus to be Hindus in their private space. It's the same idiotic argument used in WB, how Durga Puja publicly provokes the "innocent" minority.

 

You aren't the only one, as your cowardly means you don't even know the battlegrounds, instead live in denial, as unable your own questions, viewpoints about any world issues and instead only chase western validation.

 

 

 

[someone]

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

They have a massive track record of misinformation through SM. This is why I do not buy these fake outrages immediately. Most of the time they take the stance and look exclusively for narratives supporting it.

 

 

SM is both sides doing misinformation, but what about academia misinformation & bias? Like how the Hamas old charters that clearly mentioned kill Jews out, has been symmetrically erased.

 

And that idiots like you, giving validation, and justification to terrorism as reaction to "occupation". That's what Pakistan does with Kashmir, and you are speaking the same language.

 

And finally, they actually enjoyed, partied, and celebrated the killings of October 2023, that was the proud moment for the common people there and other parts of the world. That is unreal and the worst form of hate-crimes.

[mishra]

5 hours ago, Vicks57 said:

 

 

A good proportion of all videos on X are fake.

 

Violent clashes always happen during Durga Puja times in Bangladesh.

 

Sometimes, the shared video would have been from 2013 or some other year.

 

So in these cases, the video is legit but the date is off.

 

SM is full of misinformation. Only a moron would follow SM as the primary source of information/news.

 

TRT itself is fake, State Mouthpiece peddling NATO+Turkey interest

Edited November 9, 2024 by mishra

[vvvslaxman]

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[randomGuy]

 

 

[coffee_rules]

21 hours ago, someone said:

 

How much of a coward can you be? Like if Hasina went out, because of BJP & Hindus as well.  or how before 2014, everything was rosy in our country & neighbors. Can't even call a spade a spade.

 

You are just a slave, and only want Hindus to be Hindus in their private space. It's the same idiotic argument used in WB, how Durga Puja publicly provokes the "innocent" minority.

 

You aren't the only one, as your cowardly means you don't even know the battlegrounds, instead live in denial, as unable your own questions, viewpoints about any world issues and instead only chase western validation.

 

 

 

Soon after partition, Hindu organizations had an agenda of Greater India, Akhand Bharat with Hindu Mahasabha, RSS, Jansangh having that dream of re-unification. It was part of Jansangh’s manifesto. But after 3 wars, IG, JP etc., BJP has removed it from its manifesto. RSS, and others still talk about a cultural identity and not geographical borders. 
 

Vajpayee in 1999 during the peace jizzing had made it clear that it recognizes Pak as a sovereign state. But still AFP doing its hara-kiri brought this Akhand  Bharat ambitions , a cultural identity, as a geographical ambitions of India. BJP had formed the first govt in 1998, all forces domestic or foreign wanted to break it with rumors, innuendos.

 

Tieing that to the hatred faced in BD by Hindus is nothing but Hinduphobia. For them, every issue should be blamed on BJP. It is a mazahabi issue in BD , they want to go back to create a country on Islamic identity. There are even efforts to change the Ravindra Tagore written national anthem as it is written by a kaffir. Hindus are third class citizens that saw some semblance under Awami League, are now lambs for slaughter for these Jamaat-i

-Islami and BNP terrorists 

Edited November 10, 2024 by coffee_rules

[ravishingravi]

48 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Soon after partition, Hindu organizations had an agenda of Greater India, Alhand Bharat with Hindu Mahasabha, RSS, Jansangh having that dream of re-unification. It was part of Kansangh’s manifesto. But after 3 wars, IG, JP etc., BJP has removed it from its manifesto. RSS, and others still talk about a cultural identity and not geographical borders. 
 

Vajpayee in 1999 during the peace jizzing had made it clear that it recognizes Pak as a sovereign state. But still AFP doing its hara-kiri brought this Akhand  Bharat ambitions , a cultural identity, as a geographical ambitions of India. BJP had formed the first govt in 1998, all forces domestic or foreign wanted to break it with rumors, innuendos.

 

Tieing that to the hatred faced in BD by Hindus is nothing but Hinduphobia. For them, every issue should be blamed on BJP. It is a mazahabi issue in BD , they want to go back to create a country on Islamic identity. There are even efforts to change the Ravindra Tagore written national anthem as it is written by a kaffir. Hindus are third class citizens that saw up semblance under Awami League, are now lambs for slaughter for these JamaatiIslami and BNP terrorists 

 

Roots of hinduphobia need some study. We show very similar trends to jews that way. And Christians to lesser degree. Often the idea perpetrated by left that we see posters here willingly endorse. Question is how to move the Overton window. 

 

Think roots of this can be linked to identity politics or intersectionality. Also age old oppressed oppressor narrative. Whoever wins these narratives wins history. Perhaps this is also factor of left having captured academia and driving their framework. Neuroscience suggest that probability of changing mind or framework after 25 is less 2%. 

 

Also, let's be honest. Not very smart people. Yes certainly smart for the institution and perhaps even productive for them. But sheer lack of self awareness and first principles thinking is quite evident. 

 

On this forum it's so clear. In my own journey, in 90s and 00s, the non liberal / left were reactionary and usually based their view on talking points fed to them. Now since last 15 years I see that trend on the left liberal side. You can discount their academia. They can't think for themselves. 

 

The really intelligent ones imo are those who don't get swayed on side or another and are capable changing their mind given new data.  

[Mariyam]

@Vicks57 

Let me start this post by saying that I am not a big fan of the BJP. Also, in the last few years they have been more pompous than substance. Speaking economics; 2014-2018 (including demonetization) were good years. 2022- now we are seeing crazy inflation.

 

However, to blame the persecution of minorities in Bangladesh for some statement y the BJP in 1998 is disingenuous. Minorities have been persecuted in BD even before the BJP came into existence. And they were persecuted even during Congress rule. The majority in BD need a mindset change that is always an internal thing independent on sound bytes by Indian politicos.

Edited November 10, 2024 by Mariyam

[Mariyam]

This is a feel good article on Hindu Muslim unity that I came across a few days ago:

The Nawab of Rampur snubbing Jinnah and Pakistan.

 

https://www.rediff.com/news/special/when-muslim-league-wanted-rampur-for-pakistan/20241108.htm

[mishra]

4 hours ago, Vicks57 said:

 

These kind of statements by BJP politicians only play into the hands of Islamic fundamentalists in Bangla society.

 

I never blamed the persecution of minorities in Bangladesh on BJP. If it came across like that, I did not mean it that way.

 

We all know how hindus are considered Kaffirs and dirty in Islamic society. When Bangla was "East Pakistan", hindu Bengalis were targetted, killed and raped in numbers not imaginable.

 

This Akhand Bharat narrative simply is a huge thorn in the foreign policy of Indian country. This is like putting oil on already burning fire.

 

I have been posting about this Akhand Bharat narrative for the last couple of days. There is no doubt Akhand Bharat is a thorn in my foreign policy. It could come across as Indian expansion in the eyes of the third person even though India recognises other South Asian countries' sovereignty.

 

Regarding people who give excuses like "culture identity" for Akhand Bharat, what the * the similarity between Bangladesh and India? Bangla boys hate hindus, idol worship, call them Kaffirs and what not.

 

Hindus in Bangladesh should try to emigrated out to other countries. Indian hindus can set up an NGO to help them financially to emigrate or help them form organisations that aid them within bangladesh.

 

Akhand Bharat doesnt means future, Its just the past and history of Bharat. we should forgive but shouldnt forget that a Afghanistan, a Pakistan and a Bangladesh got created. But people like you are hell bent in name calling those who are just reminding that rest of Bharat can further be divided if you arent carefull.

 

 

Tamilnadu and every Tamilian should be gratefull to foresight of Patel who ensured that Hyderbad didnt became Part of Pakistan. Else you would have been facing same issues which NE and West Bengal is facing today. Have some shame for not possesing common sense

Edited November 10, 2024 by mishra

[coffee_rules]

1 hour ago, mishra said:

Akhand Bharat doesnt means future, Its just the past and history of Bharat. we should forgive but shouldnt forget that a Afghanistan, a Pakistan and a Bangladesh got created. But people like you are hell bent in name calling those who are just reminding that rest of Bharat can further be divided if you arent carefull.

 

 

Tamilnadu and every Tamilian should be gratefull to foresight of Patel who ensured that Hyderbad didnt became Part of Pakistan. Else you would have been facing same issues which NE and West Bengal is facing today. Have some shame for not possesing common sense

I don’t read his posts, but when has there ever been an official GOI document or a FP press release where it mentions that GOI has Akhand Bharat ambitions. Just showing some RSS or BJP political statements doesn’t prove Infia had AB plans ever! 

[mishra]

1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

I don’t read his posts, but when has there ever been an official GOI document or a FP press release where it mentions that GOI has Akhand Bharat ambitions. Just showing some RSS or BJP political statements doesn’t prove Infia had AB plans ever! 

I know, its not difficult to figure out if a person is speaking/justifying/propogating a party line and just illogically ranting same frw words or actually thinking a view/thought in his head and making statements. 
 

Example overuse of Modi, Hindutva, RSS in statement. U don’t see other side using DMK or AIDMK or Stalin in every argument 

Edited November 10, 2024 by mishra

[mishra]

44 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

 

RW nuts are the ones using "Akhand Bharat" maps when India has no such plans.

 

RW nuts are the ones saying "hindu rashtra" despite Indian constitution being secular.

 

"Empty vessels make the most noise"

 

Fits BJP/RW nuts perfectly

 

 

So True if you see BJP is in Power at Centre of India for over a decade now

[vvvslaxman]

Biggest victims are kids. Not just the dead ones. There is an estimated count of 17000 kids that were orphaned. There is a strict israel-palestine adoption protocol which makes adoption impossible. Some even enquired about that.  For one thing "during" war there is zero chance of adoption due to travel ban advisory. Even after everything calmed down you will have to meet a lot of requirement before being allowed adopt a child from gaza. That includes your faith. Christian cannot adopt a muslim family kid and vice versa.  So 17000 kids will stay in palestine as orphans or be part of extended family of someone else. I think it is halal to adop a kid in islam. But there are some avenues. So basically you have to jump through many hoops which nobody wants to go through.  Sad scenario. 

[mishra]

^ He was repenting the fact that state policy of Hamas in Gaza will only create Terrorists out of those innocent kids.

[coffee_rules]

5 hours ago, mishra said:

^ He was repenting the fact that state policy of Hamas in Gaza will only create Terrorists out of those innocent kids.

Some posts got removed? Why? Unless there is personal abuse, why remove posts with some harsh opinions?

[zen]

6 hours ago, mishra said:

^ He was repenting the fact that state policy of Hamas in Gaza will only create Terrorists out of those innocent kids.

 

Gaza is a refugee colony which is not allowed to even have a real economy. It is like an area under seize.

 

On top of that it gets bombarded where innocent people die. These people are fighting against Israeli occupation of Palestine. 

 

Even if there is no Hamas, some other group can rise up to replace it as it is easy to channel one’s anger in negative areas. 

 

Israel needs to move out of the West Bank and work to create a fully functional Palestine state. 

 

PS On Gaza’s economy:

 

 

Edited November 13, 2024 by zen

[bharathh]

17 minutes ago, zen said:

 

Gaza is a refugee colony which is not allowed to even have a real economy. It is like an area under seize.

 

On top of that it gets bombarded where innocent people die. These people are fighting against Israeli occupation of Palestine. 

 

Even if there is no Hamas, some other group can rise up to replace it as it is easy to channel one’s anger in negative areas. 

 

Israel needs to move out of the West Bank and work to create a fully functional Palestine state. 

 

PS On Gaza’s economy:

 

 

 

Palestinians don't want a 2 party state and will never prosper even if left alone. All the wars since 1948 have proven that. Even after complete withdrawal from Gaza - the land was just used as a launching pad for terrorists. These ppl want annihilation of the Israelis - not peaceful coexistence.

 

Instead of using all the billions of dollars given to them, the people in charge of Palestine used it to build bunkers, tunnels and prioritised buying rockets and weapons. These folks don't want peace. Only war. Can't really find any sympathy for these ingrates. Can only laugh at all the bleeding hearts who didn't care a whit for the kids being brainwashed into violence to become cannon fodder for the leadership sitting out of Qatar and Europe prior to the retaliation for Oct 7.  Not even more utility was built by the Palestinians for themselves. Not even a hospital. Every cent of their aid went to war.