What's the point of Thakur?

[Nikhil_cric]

1 hour ago, Vijy said:

we should rest him as much as possible in the stages before. also have shreyas "warnie" iyer practice his leggies in matches and nets, just in case

Yes. Absolutely. There's plenty of time between now and knockouts. I'd even suggest niggling out Thakur from the squad and get Prasidh in. A proper pace bowler with a high release who will be useful especially in Ahmedabad.

If Iyer can give even 3 overs, let them get SKY in.  We can play one of Jadeja/Ash based on conditions 

[Nikhil_cric]

46 minutes ago, sandeep said:

As much as Thakur in the XI irritates me, you aren't wrong.

Pandya can just give 10 overs just in knockouts. He is barely going to be needed with bat against SL, BD, NED. We can rest him against them and play SKY at 6 and give him time to bat.

 

 

[SRT100]

1 hour ago, Vijy said:

why have shami though? just have iyer be 6th bowler.

I dont disagree, but Iyer should have been bowling for the past 2-3 years.

Why is Indian Cricket utter madness? Why did they not plan for him to bowl 10 overs in ODI's before the WC?

[kubrickian]

Ashwin on slow pitches is a lot better option than Thakur. Thakur's pace is a bit too low.  SENA countries would definitely prefer playing Thakur over Ashwin.

 

Need to consider a few other things as well. I feel Ashwin is a better batsman than Thakur but may not be a big hitter which is needed down the order but Shardul hasnt been a consistent hitter either.  On smaller grounds, probably a seamer would be a better option.  Ashwin's fielding is a bit of a minus. Selection should be done on a case by case basis.

[putrevus]

Pandya took two wickets today as he got to bowl more overs. But he will leak runs and give away boundary per over minimum.

 

Thakur could have picked up those wickets if he bowled those overs too .Pandya after two overs was 2-0-18-0

 

Both Thakur and Pandya will leak runs. Thakur is a better wicket taker but Pandya has slightly better economy.

 

Thakur has his place but wicket should determine if Ashwin or Thakur are going to play.Shami should not be forgotten.

 

 

[BH-BAIB]

Thakur wasn't required today as Pakistan collapsed . If the 3 or 4 wkt partnership went longer  thakur would have come handy

[Serpico]

So far we have had 3/3 perfect games with the ball, so its natural to feel this way. Even in test matches, sometimes 3rd spinner/3rd pacer looks useless when opposition teams collapse. Lets wait till the rsa/eng/nz games and we'll see why we need a 6th option 

[Vijy]

this year, pandya has taken 21 wickets in 19 matches at an avg of 24.5. in fact, his batting may almost be considered a bonus.

[rollingstoned]

As much as i want to agree Thakur has had a habit of showing just why he is in the team whenever people inevitably keep asking it ever so often. He will have a role to play in some match yet.

[bsriharsha]

It was a mistake picking Thakur against Pakistan. The fact that Pakistan shat themselves and gifted the match doesn't change the selection mistake. 

[jf1gp_1]

Shardul rarely ends up on losing side 

[cowboysfan]

the problem with Shardul is that his batting is so poor that if we relying on him to score runs to win a game then most likely he will fail.the important reason why we are winning these WC matches are because our bowlers,they have been exceptional.Why not increase your bowling strength by playing Shami who has taken 31 wickets at 15 in world cup matches?

[sandeep]

On 10/14/2023 at 5:53 PM, SRT100 said:

I dont disagree, but Iyer should have been bowling for the past 2-3 years.

Why is Indian Cricket utter madness? Why did they not plan for him to bowl 10 overs in ODI's before the WC?

Did you forget that the guy has had back issues for more than a year? And his bowling wasn't much more than rolling his arm over to begin with.

[Nikhil_cric]

23 hours ago, bsriharsha said:

It was a mistake picking Thakur against Pakistan. The fact that Pakistan shat themselves and gifted the match doesn't change the selection mistake. 

This. Just because we won comfortably doesn't mean it's because every decision we made was right. 

 

If the extra bowler is only gonna bowl 2-4 overs at times and doesn't add much with bat, it's an obvious issue. 

[SRT100]

2 hours ago, sandeep said:

Did you forget that the guy has had back issues for more than a year? And his bowling wasn't much more than rolling his arm over to begin with.

He hasnt had back issues for the entirety of his career.

 

Its madness of Indian Cricket that he hasnt bowled more often in meaningless irrelevant inconsequential  in previous unilateral/Asian Cup ODI/T20 matches.

[sandeep]

10 hours ago, SRT100 said:

He hasnt had back issues for the entirety of his career.

 

Its madness of Indian Cricket that he hasnt bowled more often in meaningless irrelevant inconsequential  in previous unilateral/Asian Cup ODI/T20 matches.

have you seen Iyer bowl ever?  

 

Its one thing to "want" a player to be a bowling option. Quite another for him to actually be a viable one.  

[Nikhil_cric]

12 hours ago, sandeep said:

Did you forget that the guy has had back issues for more than a year? And his bowling wasn't much more than rolling his arm over to begin with.

Does it really matter that much if we want to just sneak 3 overs in. I've seen him bowl and he's not a proper bowler at all .   But the whole idea is to get rid of 5th bowler quota that Pandya can't complete.   Even if he goes for 30 off 3,  why is the trade off when you get an extra batter such a bad one ?

Edited October 16, 2023 by Nikhil_cric

[Gollum]

Bump

[Nikhil_cric]

Pls get him declared unfit and get Prasidh in the squad. He is absolutely a waste of space.

[IndiaWC8311]

Literally no point besides Bombay lobby pushing for him

 

He cannot complete 10 overs and batting cant be relied upon