rollingstoned Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, Serpico said: Well atleast he's admitting that it is just for the win instead of pretending like it is some moral crusade I agree, i expected him to defend it much more vehemently instead of the honest admission that he gave. Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 23 minutes ago, Lord said: and nothing wrong in that. Not his job to decide right or wrong if its within laws. Its upto the umpires. Regarding Ashwin, I feel the non-striker is taking unfair advantage and the bowler is well within his rights to penalize him. What advantage did Mathews get by coming late? It was a mean one, batsmen often come late and no captain appeals or had appealed so far. What if the batsman come in early and the fielding team takes time to set the field. Who gets peanlized there.. That's why nobody has dared to appeal. This is a first and looks v bad. He will be hounded everytime he steps in to bat from now on, Link to comment
Lord Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Regarding Ashwin, I feel the non-striker is taking unfair advantage and the bowler is well within his rights to penalize him. What advantage did Mathews get by coming late? It was a mean one, batsmen often come late and no captain appeals or had appealed so far. What if the batsman come in early and the fielding team takes time to set the field. Who gets peanlized there.. That's why nobody has dared to appeal. This is a first and looks v bad. He will be hounded everytime he steps in to bat from now on, Yes, that's what the umpires are there to decide. Appealing for anything under the laws is allowed. Why have it in rules if you can't even appeal? Link to comment
Lord Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Perfect from Mendis. Umpires needed to show common sense instead of rigidly following rule book. Also didn't blame Shakib AuxiliA and coffee_rules 2 Link to comment
Mariyam Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Years down the line, if at all Shakib is going to have any recall value, outside of Bangladesh, it will be for this. He ruined his own limited legacy. rangeelaraja 1 Link to comment
Iconoclast Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 There should be a run penalty of a certain amount for every minute the batsman is late. Say 5 runs deducted for each minute. Outright dismissal is too harsh for such a minor infractions. Same thing for mankading just make it a run deduction. Fairer and gets rid of all this stupid drama. Sandz 1 Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Very strong words from Mathews. Openly spewing venom on BD noggins Angelo Mathews giving reply to Shakib Al Hasan and Bangladesh. - This is going to be a big issue!pic.twitter.com/6RmK4hQ3H2— Mufaddal Vohra (@mufaddal_vohra) November 6, 2023 Quite a juicy story for a water filler chat Link to comment
IndianRenegade Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, coffee_rules said: Very strong words from Mathews. Openly spewing venom on BD noggins Quite a juicy story for a water filler chat umpires contradicting Mathews claims in the video: Link to comment
BacktoCricaddict Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Very strong words from Mathews. Openly spewing venom on BD noggins Angelo Mathews giving reply to Shakib Al Hasan and Bangladesh. - This is going to be a big issue!pic.twitter.com/6RmK4hQ3H2 — Mufaddal Vohra (@mufaddal_vohra) November 6, 2023 Quite a juicy story for a water filler chat Evidently, when the strap broke, it was exactly 1 min 55 sec from the point Samarawickrama's catch was taken. If that is the case, the umpires messed up. Link to comment
IndianRenegade Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Evidently, when the strap broke, it was exactly 1 min 55 sec from the point Samarawickrama's catch was taken. If that is the case, the umpires messed up. Umpires say thats wrong & also claim even if his strap was broken that isn't an exuse. Link to comment
BacktoCricaddict Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Just now, IndianRenegade said: Umpires say thats wrong & also claim even if his strap was broken that isn't an exuse. Just saw that as soon as I submitted my post. Should be easy enough to figure that whole thing out. Just takes watching film with a clock. Link to comment
BacktoCricaddict Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: Regarding Ashwin, I feel the non-striker is taking unfair advantage and the bowler is well within his rights to penalize him. What advantage did Mathews get by coming late? It was a mean one, batsmen often come late and no captain appeals or had appealed so far. What if the batsman come in early and the fielding team takes time to set the field. Who gets peanlized there.. That's why nobody has dared to appeal. This is a first and looks v bad. He will be hounded everytime he steps in to bat from now on, When Shakib came out to bat, they should've played the KBC clock audio on the public announcement system :-). Austin 3:!6, AuxiliA and coffee_rules 3 Link to comment
IndianRenegade Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Just saw that as soon as I submitted my post. Should be easy enough to figure that whole thing out. Just takes watching film with a clock. yeah but if you watched the follow up , the umpire is claiming the law states you should be ready to "receive" the ball within 2 mins, so if your equipment isn't ready by then thats the batters fault. Edited November 6, 2023 by IndianRenegade Link to comment
AuxiliA Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Lord said: Perfect from Mendis. Umpires needed to show common sense instead of rigidly following rule book. Also didn't blame Shakib Very measured & mature response by the Lankans despite the bad loss. The umpires surely were trigger happy with that dismissal. Marais Erasmus probably wanted to be the first umpire to time someone out. Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, IndianRenegade said: Umpires say thats wrong & also claim even if his strap was broken that isn't an exuse. SL claim they have evidence. There will be an official complaint from SLC. Harrmisan on CI said that if Mathews had taken guard and then indicated to strap broken and asked the umpires for change, they could have declined the appeal. This is really petty of Shakib to pursue. Link to comment
RedFever Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 So isn't it the batsman's responsibility to make sure he has the proper equipment when he steps out to bat. Tomorrow some other batsman may come out to bat without pads and gloves, and just reach the crease in time within the allocated 2 minutes. After coming to the crease and taking stance, he may call one of the reserves to come and hand him the gloves and pads. Clearly its Angelo Mathews fault here, he should have been ready with the right helmet at the pavilion/dugout itself. Link to comment
IndianRenegade Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, coffee_rules said: SL claim they have evidence. There will be an official complaint from SLC. Harrmisan on CI said that if Mathews had taken guard and then indicated to strap broken and asked the umpires for change, they could have declined the appeal. This is really petty of Shakib to pursue. I didn't watch the video of the dismissal, but did he take the guard before the malfunction? Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, RedFever said: So isn't it the batsman's responsibility to make sure he has the proper equipment when he steps out to bat. Tomorrow some other batsman may come out to bat without pads and gloves, and just reach the crease in time within the allocated 2 minutes. After coming to the crease and taking stance, he may call one of the reserves to come and hand him the gloves and pads. Clearly its Angelo Mathews fault here, he should have been ready with the right helmet at the pavilion/dugout itself. Strap could come off even if it was checked before. It will be detrimental to receive the ball without a helmet. It was basic common sense for all to use at that time. Petty petty captain. Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Just now, IndianRenegade said: I didn't watch the video of the dismissal, but did he take the guard before the malfunction? No that’s the point that he didn’t Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) Mathews has a every right to be angry. Are they doing every by letter of the law, where has common sense gone. ICC and its stupid rules.Some rules don't make any sense.This is one of them. Edited November 6, 2023 by putrevus Link to comment
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