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On 1/18/2024 at 4:48 PM, coffee_rules said:

So what happens to Sarva Janangada Shatiya thora? Muslims speak Urdu and Chriisrians English? How will other people speaking smaller languages like Tulu, Konkani, Kodava do? Do they get their own land or do we impose our language on them?

It's their choice to decide whether they want to integrate with Kannadigas or pursue their own path.

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8 minutes ago, Lannister said:

There's no meaning to India if it fails to ensure fundamental rights for its people.

How’s is it being denied now? Every state has its own language and you have freedom of religion to freely follow whatever form of worship. 

 

In Hindu Rashtra, apart from Fundamental rights, there Iare Fundamental duties as well one has to fulfill to in order to avail the privileges of the rights!

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15 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

How’s is it being denied now? Every state has its own language and you have freedom of religion to freely follow whatever form of worship. 

 

In Hindu Rashtra, apart from Fundamental rights, there Iare Fundamental duties as well one has to fulfill to in order to avail the privileges of the rights!

On a national level, all state languages, except Hindi, have been relegated to a regional status. If this is the case, then what is the purpose of India? 

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19 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

 

Hindu origanization is aome random organization, there is nothing officially recognized. Unlike SGPC . The lynching is not written in any Hinu scriptures, while Beadbi is officially sactioned by religion.  There is a big difference and sorry if you failed to recognize. If some Hindu organization violates the law, they will be booked under law. The SGPC police ignored the crime. You can keep crying about random news articles, you can't change the narrative about Hinduism. The Per-capita lynchings in the  Hindu population is minute. It is still very tolerant and active. The minority population would not have increased compared to 1947 if that is not the case. I don't what you are complaining about intolerance in India. Sikhs are one of the thriving communities in India

Either you don't understand or don't want to understand. I am not saying Hindu randomly go and attack muslim or sikhs . All I am saying that Hindu's are very much capable of violence when it comes to cows temple caste or anything which offend their religion , very much like other religions 

 

 

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10 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

In Hindu Rashtra, apart from Fundamental rights, there Iare Fundamental duties as well one has to fulfill to in order to avail the privileges of the rights!

This is becoming comedic. Please enlighten me about these fundamental duties. Who determines these duties? The religious right and Hindi nationalists?

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53 minutes ago, Lannister said:

This is becoming comedic. Please enlighten me about these fundamental duties. Who determines these duties? The religious right and Hindi nationalists?

Constitution 

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14 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

How’s is it being denied now? Every state has its own language and you have freedom of religion to freely follow whatever form of worship. 

 

In Hindu Rashtra, apart from Fundamental rights, there Iare Fundamental duties as well one has to fulfill to in order to avail the privileges of the rights!

Lol there is no Hindu Rashtra...  What has happened with you coffee bhai?  You sound like Maulanas. 

 

Time put some respect to Constitution.  Otherwise we are no better than those radicals who want Sharia law. 

 

Hinduism is a way of life...  Not a cult.  People should be free to practice whatever they want. 

India would be better served to put Rule of Law as sole state religion. 

Only way to keep this nation unite.. 

 

Indian Nationalism>>> Hindu+Islamic cult ideas. 

Otherwise forget about Indian century.  

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1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said:

Lol there is no Hindu Rashtra...  What has happened with you coffee bhai?  You sound like Maulanas. 

 

Time put some respect to Constitution.  Otherwise we are no better than those radicals who want Sharia law. 

 

Hinduism is a way of life...  Not a cult.  People should be free to practice whatever they want. 

India would be better served to put Rule of Law as sole state religion. 

Only way to keep this nation unite.. 

 

Indian Nationalism>>> Hindu+Islamic cult ideas. 

Otherwise forget about Indian century.  

 

Fortunately we have arrived at a time where people can see through that false equivalence. No, it's not the same and not even close. 

 

India is plural because Hindus are accommodating. Constitution only came into existence in 1948. A piece of paper cannot change the fabric of the land.  This land has been accommodating different sects / religions for centuries even at the cost of their belief system at times. 

 

Interestingly at the time of framing of constitution , the Hindu mahasabha also provided it's draft submission with equal rights for all religions and adopted clear demarcation between state and religion. That's your Hindu cult. 

 

On Hindu rashtra, it's beyond my pay grade of what that should or shouldn't be. But this should be homeland for Hindus. Hindus by their very ethos are inclusive. But they will not be included elsewhere. This is the only land for them and rest who are here should be entitled to same rights. 

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4 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Lol there is no Hindu Rashtra...  What has happened with you coffee bhai?  You sound like Maulanas. 

 

Time put some respect to Constitution.  Otherwise we are no better than those radicals who want Sharia law. 

 

Hinduism is a way of life...  Not a cult.  People should be free to practice whatever they want. 

India would be better served to put Rule of Law as sole state religion. 

Only way to keep this nation unite.. 

 

Indian Nationalism>>> Hindu+Islamic cult ideas. 

Otherwise forget about Indian century.  

You are like Tharoor equating Hindu rashtra = Pakistan/Taliban. It is where all religions are mutually respected and government keeps out of all religious matters. Why do you think it will be lawless? Are communal riots happening less under congress rule or in congress ruled states. Indian society  maintain equilibrium no matter what, you should stop this fear mongering of Hindu rashtra. 
 

I was coming from where @Lannistersaid caste identity is supreme overIeven Indian!. In Hindutva, caste becomes irrelevant and iHindu  identity is held higher. Fine, if you call it Indian nationalism as well. There will be Vande Mataram and Bharat mata ki jai in Hindu rashtra as well. Azaan will probably get stopped , and UCC will be imposed. The stopping of minority appeasement is what fears them most about Hindu rashtra.  Taking out caste politics is what we should all work for in India or in n Hindu rashtra!

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15 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

 

I was coming from where @Lannistersaid caste identity is supreme overIeven Indian!. In Hindutva, caste becomes irrelevant and iHindu  identity is held higher. Fine, if you call it Indian nationalism as well. There will be Vande Mataram and Bharat mata ki jai in Hindu rashtra as well. Azaan will probably get stopped , and UCC will be imposed. The stopping of minority appeasement is what fears them most about Hindu rashtra.  Taking out caste politics is what we should all work for in India or in n Hindu rashtra!

The importance of caste identity surpasses that of a Hindu identity, and my Kannada identity takes precedence over Indian identity. It all depends on how different communities treat each other and their willingness to engage in positive collaboration.

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3 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

You are like Tharoor equating Hindu rashtra = Pakistan/Taliban. It is where all religions are mutually respected and government keeps out of all religious matters. Why do you think it will be lawless? Are communal riots happening less under congress rule or in congress ruled states. Indian society  maintain equilibrium no matter what, you should stop this fear mongering of Hindu rashtra. 
 

I was coming from where @Lannistersaid caste identity is supreme overIeven Indian!. In Hindutva, caste becomes irrelevant and iHindu  identity is held higher. Fine, if you call it Indian nationalism as well. There will be Vande Mataram and Bharat mata ki jai in Hindu rashtra as well. Azaan will probably get stopped , and UCC will be imposed. The stopping of minority appeasement is what fears them most about Hindu rashtra.  Taking out caste politics is what we should all work for in India or in n Hindu rashtra!

Caste Identity is indeed supreme in India & it will be regardless of religion.  Hindus Muslims Sikhs have all been divided over caste. 

There is no running from it. 

Even vedic times were not free from it. 

SC/ST & backward classes will never fully accept the formation of such state..  Add in minorities & u get majority of the country against such a system.  Divide would be enormous. 

 

India is de facto a Hindu Rashtra since beginning without the label...  That's the whole point.  

Maybe when we crossed 15 trillion dollar economy threshold with a PPP equivalent to top Asian countries such changes would be easier to implement. 

For example Ram Mandir wouldn't have been possible to have in a 1950's India. 

Thandi kar ke khao...  As saying goes. 

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Hindus in TN might be feeling that they live in Pakistan or some Islamic country country.

 

 

 

 

Meanwhile in Karnataka see saregama show today

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On 1/21/2024 at 1:26 AM, Singh bling said:

Either you don't understand or don't want to understand. I am not saying Hindu randomly go and attack muslim or sikhs . All I am saying that Hindu's are very much capable of violence when it comes to cows temple caste or anything which offend their religion , very much like other religions 

 

 

But as a religion Hinduism was never exposed to  invasion of others..Even today as a religion Hinduism is the most peaceful religion. Easily peaceful than the Abrahamic ones 

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