Popular Post Gollum Posted January 28 Popular Post Share Posted January 28 (edited) 1. WC 2023 failure, first time since 2007 when a host team didn't win the WC. And what a humiliation it was in front of a record crowd!!!! Probably doctored the final's pitch as well. 2. T20 WC 2022 humiliation 3. WTC 2023 F humiliation, anyway we made the final in the first place not because of these 2 4. 2022 one-off test loss in Eng, blew a chance to secure a historic series win in Eng 5. Failure to win test series in RSA against their weakest ever sides 6. Almost a test loss in Bangladesh 7. Unconvincing test series wins at home, phattu mentality in BGT 4th test 8. Killing of fast bowling culture 9. Pitch doctoring....in the 2013-20 period quicks were very much in the game in Indian pitches, Shami/Umesh have stellar record and wickets tally. Heck Bhuvi and Ishant have won MOTMs in home tests in Kohli era. Dravid has unhealthy control on curators, even got the Lucknow curator fired over the pitch prepared for a meaningless T20 bilateral. 10. Backing wrong horses, selection bias, failure to groom next gen of quicks, dropping Kuldeep after his MOM in BD, maintaining status quo in batting etc. 11. Number of test losses at home in 2013-2022=2, number of test losses at home in last 10 months=2. Aura at home shattered. 12. Defensive, stale brand of cricket, like our phattu PP batting in 2022 T20 WC, 2nd innings of WC final after getting them to 47/3, lack of imagination when under attack right from field setting to bowler's rotation, poor body language, culture of excuses. Easily the most boring and unwatchable cricket team at present. At least with Kohli-Shastri there was energy and aggression in our bowling plans. 13. Fitness culture going down the drain. Pot bellies, unathletic fielding the norm. 14. Asia Cup 2022 humiliation, where we failed to reach the final. 15. Losing ODI series in Bangladesh, in general struggling in all formats against this proper minnow team. At least in 2015-16 BD was a dangerous side with all players of their golden generation (Shakib, Mushfiqur, Tamim, Mashrafe, Mahmudullah) at the peak of their powers, this BD side is on the wane. Edited January 29 by Gollum Frustrated, nevada, BacktoCricaddict and 8 others 5 1 5 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Dravid has image of all innocent, hard working and honest guy who only tries hard and has no control over anyone. Many people believe that. Gollum, Sandz, Frustrated and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Gollum Posted January 28 Author Share Posted January 28 Dunno about this series, our bowlers may still cover up for these nalayak batsmen/captain/coach. But humiliation is inevitable in the upcoming T20 WC, that will make it 4 consecutive ICC event failures for this duo. Even Shastri-Kohli duo had only 3....2019 WC, 2021 WTC F and 2022 T20 WC. Lord 1 Link to comment
Frustrated Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 There were lots of flaws in Kohli-Shastri tenure. Can't deny that. But overall, Indian cricket was lively & entertaining to watch. Fielding had improved and so did the overall fitness levels of most players. On the other hand, Rohit-Dravid duo has taken Indian cricket to dark ages. A point of no return. It would take a long time to set things in order whenever a new TM takes charge. Don't see this duo lasting long. But till 2025CT, they would get to hang around, I guess. BacktoCricaddict 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted January 28 Author Share Posted January 28 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Frustrated said: There were lots of flaws in Kohli-Shastri tenure. Can't deny that. But overall, Indian cricket was lively & entertaining to watch. Fielding had improved and so did the overall fitness levels of most players. On the other hand, Rohit-Dravid duo has taken Indian cricket to dark ages. A point of no return. It would take a long time to set things in order whenever a new TM takes charge. Don't see this duo lasting long. But till 2025CT, they would get to hang around, I guess. Great point about fitness culture, added that in OP. Rohit/Dravid have also done away with yo-yo tests, probably the captain can't pass the test with his bulging midsection. Kohli forced the team to improve its fitness and usually unathletic guys like Shami and Ashwin were in their best shape, could bowl long spells and our bowling attack was relentless because of that. Kohli led by example there. Edited January 28 by Gollum Frustrated 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted January 28 Author Share Posted January 28 They have removed the fun element from Indian cricket. Even our home games in 2015-19 were so much fun, with quicks sending missiles, Saha jumping 20 feet to collect catches of Umesh etc. express bowling, sensible-indian, nevada and 2 others 5 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 17 minutes ago, Frustrated said: On the other hand, Rohit-Dravid duo has taken Indian cricket to dark ages. A point of no return. It would take a long time to set things in order whenever a new TM takes charge. One of the biggest reason why we are in this mess is because Kohli held on too tight for way too long - why the * an over the hill Dhongi played in 2019 WC, why was Shami dropped in SF, why did Dud play for 2-3 years & then suddenly we had to transplant Shankar in that squad, why the * did we play 4 WK in the SF or field first in 2017 CT finals? Kohli's decline was evident to me in 2020 - it was clear as * that the burden of 3 formats was taking its toll on him he should've stepped down from LO & continued to captain the test side, but no he tried to pretend like he's some martyr & weasel his way into staying a cap in at least one of the LO formats! Is hamam me sab nange hai bhai log - no one is doodh ka dhola Lord 1 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Gollum said: They have removed the fun element from Indian cricket. Even our home games in 2015-19 were so much fun, with quicks sending missiles, Saha jumping 20 feet to collect catches of Umesh etc. Asia Cup 2022.. Dravid called Pakistani pace attack sexy during Pre match PC & said we don't have guys like this something like Kaam chalau. Do the job types... I knew we have a loser as a coach. Shameless statement to make.. And he killed our fast bowling resurrection after that. @express bowling @Suhaan were outraged at that statement I remember. Edited January 28 by Lone Wolf express bowling, sensible-indian, Gollum and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Gollum Posted January 28 Author Share Posted January 28 Dravid's fascination with Unadkat, Sakariya, Mukesh etc Even Prasidh was bowling like a trundler in the RSA tests, Mhambrey and Dravid's influence? Number, nevada, express bowling and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
Gollum Posted January 28 Author Share Posted January 28 (edited) Again Dravid showed up at PC today, not Rohit. Rohit has this habit of turning up for PCs only when Indian wins, never if India loses. Post WC final he was supposed to attend PC but was nowhere to be found, same happened after 1st test in RSA. Kohli at least used to face the music in front of media post painful losses. That's leadership, more I look at Rohit, more it feels like making him captain was a big blunder. Edited January 28 by Gollum Lord and Suhaan 1 1 Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) I cant wait to get rid of them. Dravid is a shockingly bad coach. Rohit is not a good test captain at all. Deep down, i wish Rahane scores well in domestics and comes back to captain this side. In form Rahane, Bharat Arun and a foreign coach would be a great combo. But i know that aint happening lol. --- The only option left for us is to make Bumrah captain. Bumrah will sooner or later get injured and we will end up with Kela as stand in captain Edited January 28 by sensible-indian Gollum and nevada 2 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 39 minutes ago, Gollum said: Again Dravid showed up at PC today, not Rohit. Rohit has this habit of turning up for PCs only when Indian wins, never if India loses. Post WC final he was supposed to attend PC but was nowhere to be found, same happened after 1st test in RSA. Kohli at least used to face the music in front of media post painful losses. That's leadership, more I look at Rohit, more it feels like making him captain was a big blunder. He was atleast clear in his mind what to do and what not to do in tests This guy has no answers when opposition is at the top any of the formats Gollum and express bowling 2 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said: Asia Cup 2022.. Dravid called Pakistani pace attack sexy during Pre match PC & said we don't have guys like this something like Kaam chalau. Do the job types... I knew we have a loser as a coach. Shameless statement to make.. And he killed our fast bowling resurrection after that. @express bowling @Suhaan were outraged at that statement I remember. Our loi bowling was no match to our test bowling even during Shastri Kohli era But Dravid and Rohit have gone step further they have completely demolished the supply chain even in tests Gollum, express bowling, Lone Wolf and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 If Kohli was the captain, I dont think england would have scored that much. He would have cracked the whip and killed lethargy on day 3. Gollum 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Too much power to seniors especially Captain A bad precedent set by cunning dhoni is resulting in bad fitness standards, pathetic fielding standards etc these are just small after effects Gollum and express bowling 2 Link to comment
The Realist Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Said it many times previously that Dravid-Sharma is a horror combination similar to the dark days Dhoni & Fletcher. Fletcher at least with Eng had a way and style of playing, Dravid is utterly clueless and has no blueprint. Likewise Sharma had no real strategy and style. They both just turn up, collect the pay cheques, lose and go home. Dravid's coaching record in particular is embarrassing - its just continuous failure. Gollum 1 Link to comment
Sandz Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Their legacy is a legacy of sharamnaak haars. There is so much choice, hard to pick which one was the worst one, need another thread for that. Link to comment
Bigg Brother Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Both have brought nothing but the shame to Indian cricket. Absolute horrible duo. Gollum 1 Link to comment
Number Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Very good expose of these 2. Add losing ODI series in the Bangladesh in the list and they dropped a guy who saved us from an embarassing whitewash. express bowling, nevada and Gollum 1 2 Link to comment
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