diga Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 14 minutes ago, mani sha said: kohli is going overboard to ensure his place in team . He upsets the balance so much yet we will be stuck with him . His moronic catching and his strike rate of 120 against spinners will cost us dearly in wc Fielding abilities too are questionable now that he has crossed 35... hope he is exposed big time in carribean Link to comment
putrevus Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Geniuses who were whining about Kohli’s place have been shown their place. Rightfully so, he is still India’s best t20 batsman and if he gets help from rest of the bozos remains to be seen. He has been one man army in t20 World Cups since 2014. Link to comment
mani sha Posted May 3 Author Share Posted May 3 On 4/30/2024 at 8:06 PM, putrevus said: Geniuses who were whining about Kohli’s place have been shown their place. Rightfully so, he is still India’s best t20 batsman and if he gets help from rest of the bozos remains to be seen. He has been one man army in t20 World Cups since 2014. One man army looses always. it’s a team sport. A sport of hitting sixes. batting at no 3 , playing run a ball with occasional fours leaves no room to win . we have stopped winning since 2014 . No co incidence . He eats up the balls and does not allow middle order to develop. The hardest job is no 4-5-6 what message did we send out to everyone by not taking Rinku - our best t20 batter in last 2 years ? msg is clear - high average in stupid ipl u are in . Doesn’t matter if impact factor is zero with your high average . raki05 1 Link to comment
Adamant Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 7 hours ago, mani sha said: One man army looses always. it’s a team sport. A sport of hitting sixes. batting at no 3 , playing run a ball with occasional fours leaves no room to win . we have stopped winning since 2014 . No co incidence . He eats up the balls and does not allow middle order to develop. The hardest job is no 4-5-6 what message did we send out to everyone by not taking Rinku - our best t20 batter in last 2 years ? msg is clear - high average in stupid ipl u are in . Doesn’t matter if impact factor is zero with your high average . 87(48) is run a ball 72(44) is run a ball 83(52)? 82(53)? Are you for real? He carried our ass in two world cups and even in the last world t20 he was our best batter, name someone who did better than him Link to comment
putrevus Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 9 hours ago, mani sha said: One man army looses always. it’s a team sport. A sport of hitting sixes. batting at no 3 , playing run a ball with occasional fours leaves no room to win . we have stopped winning since 2014 . No co incidence . He eats up the balls and does not allow middle order to develop. The hardest job is no 4-5-6 what message did we send out to everyone by not taking Rinku - our best t20 batter in last 2 years ? msg is clear - high average in stupid ipl u are in . Doesn’t matter if impact factor is zero with your high average . He bats at number3 , he rotates strike very well. Stop your hatred and start looking for reasons why India didn’t win since 2014. Kohli is the reason why India has been relevant . Link to comment
kosingh Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 (edited) Gavaskar goes after Kohli in every RCB game. Good entertainment. Edited May 4 by kosingh vvvslaxman and Number 2 Link to comment
New guy Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 (edited) 20 hours ago, putrevus said: He bats at number3 , he rotates strike very well. Stop your hatred and start looking for reasons why India didn’t win since 2014. Kohli is the reason why India has been relevant . Rotating strike in t20. No wonder we have not won anything for seventeen years. It's 2024 and we still have our fans talking about rotating strike in t20. It's like when the gun powder was invented and we had a country talking about how their knight is the best fighter because he has a sharper sword. Edited May 5 by New guy putrevus 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 (edited) 6 minutes ago, New guy said: Rotating strike in t20. No wonder we have not won anything for seventeen years. It's 2024 and we still have our fans talking about rotating strike in t20. It's like when the gun powder was invented and we had a country talking about how their knight is the best fighter because he has a sharper sword. Yes , this is not hot and giggle IPL, you still need to rotate strike. talk to me when you see regular 200 plus scores in t20 World Cups. Kohli is the reason why India has been relevant in t20 World Cups since 2014. But he never got any help from other bozos 139 was finals winning score in last world t20 Edited May 5 by putrevus Link to comment
New guy Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 (edited) 14 minutes ago, putrevus said: Yes , this is not hot and giggle IPL, you still need to rotate strike. talk to me when you see regular 200 plus scores in t20 World Cups. Kohli is the reason why India has been relevant in t20 World Cups since 2014. But he never got any help from other bozos 139 was finals winning score in last world t20 139 was winning total because Pakistan scored only 138, because pakistan is a bigger stat padding team than us who choked in finals. They have same problem as their middle order and finishers got zero match practice and had zero confidence because of stat padders on top. So when stat padders choked middle order with no clarity of their role choked too. The pattern is the same, rizwan and babar are biggest stat padder in the business. Heck they even have a famous won against India in t20 world cup which their fans hype. It's exactly the same as Kohli fans. We scored 168 in semis and were trashed by England by 10 wickets. Kohli will never get any support from others as his stat padding style benefits only him. Others around him are forced to take risks early in their innings, hit in the air and get out while he plays safely. Then he takes all the credit, if it clicks he becomes the hero, if it fails he can still blame others Blaming others when it's kohlis style of play which forces others to take risk is hilarious. You yourself claimed Kohli rotates the strike. Which means someone else needs to take risks even if it's a batsman who just came in. New batsman are likely to fail more while hitting than set batsmen. Then why blame others? Edited May 5 by New guy Link to comment
putrevus Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 18 minutes ago, New guy said: 139 was winning total because Pakistan scored only 138, because pakistan is a bigger stat padding team than us who choked in finals. They have same problem as their middle order and finishers got zero match practice and had zero confidence because of stat padders on top. So when stat padders choked middle order with no clarity of their role choked too. The pattern is the same, rizwan and babar are biggest stat padder in the business. Heck they even have a famous won against India in t20 world cup which their fans hype. It's exactly the same as Kohli fans. We scored 168 in semis and were trashed by England by 10 wickets. Kohli will never get any support from others as his stat padding style benefits only him. Others around him are forced to take risks early in their innings, hit in the air and get out while he plays safely. Then he takes all the credit, if it clicks he becomes the hero, if it fails he can still blame others Blaming others when it's kohlis style of play which forces others to take risk is hilarious. You yourself claimed Kohli rotates the strike. Which means someone else needs to take risks even if it's a batsman who just came in. New batsman are likely to fail more while hitting than set batsmen. Then why blame others? No Kohli’s style doesn’t force anyone to anything. 200 was breached once or twice in whole world t20 World Cup. Your insane need to blame the only guy who has kept this Indian team since 2014 is getting old. Come up with new excuses. In case you are slow to understand Kohli method of batting was perfect for t20 World Cup even in 2022 and will be fine in 2024 too. kosingh 1 Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 1 hour ago, putrevus said: Yes , this is not hot and giggle IPL, you still need to rotate strike. talk to me when you see regular 200 plus scores in t20 World Cups. Kohli is the reason why India has been relevant in t20 World Cups since 2014. But he never got any help from other bozos 139 was finals winning score in last world t20 India has been totally irrelevant in T20s over the last decade. They can neither capitalize PP overs with top order batting at a snail's pace, and neither have the later order hitting power. Kohli and team are only good at scoring around 160, and anything more they bow out. Vijy 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 7 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: India has been totally irrelevant in T20s over the last decade. They can neither capitalize PP overs with top order batting at a snail's pace, and neither have the later order hitting power. Kohli and team are only good at scoring around 160, and anything more they bow out. How is it Kohli’s fault if they don’t have lower order batting or openers not firing. They have been winning what ever they won only due to one batsman. Link to comment
VT87 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 I love this forum there are many players who never performed in T20 wc yet they have no problem about them . You will not see a single thread against Rohit , Sky, Jadeja about their dismal performances but can see a multiple threads about Kohli if you’re a genuine ,you point out every non performer unequivocally Adamant 1 Link to comment
mikeypbadana86 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 2 hours ago, New guy said: 139 was winning total because Pakistan scored only 138, because pakistan is a bigger stat padding team than us who choked in finals. They have same problem as their middle order and finishers got zero match practice and had zero confidence because of stat padders on top. So when stat padders choked middle order with no clarity of their role choked too. The pattern is the same, rizwan and babar are biggest stat padder in the business. Heck they even have a famous won against India in t20 world cup which their fans hype. It's exactly the same as Kohli fans. We scored 168 in semis and were trashed by England by 10 wickets. Kohli will never get any support from others as his stat padding style benefits only him. Others around him are forced to take risks early in their innings, hit in the air and get out while he plays safely. Then he takes all the credit, if it clicks he becomes the hero, if it fails he can still blame others Blaming others when it's kohlis style of play which forces others to take risk is hilarious. You yourself claimed Kohli rotates the strike. Which means someone else needs to take risks even if it's a batsman who just came in. New batsman are likely to fail more while hitting than set batsmen. Then why blame others? you are biased when you say 139 was less score in 2022 t20 final. ben stokes was all over the place facing nasim shah. Shaheen shaw afridi got injured during the crucial phase of the match, ENG took 19 overs to score the runs. Please check 2016 t20 semi final, 2016 t20 virtual quarter final. Kohli batted through when others failed. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 2 hours ago, New guy said: 139 was winning total because Pakistan scored only 138, because pakistan is a bigger stat padding team than us who choked in finals. They have same problem as their middle order and finishers got zero match practice and had zero confidence because of stat padders on top. So when stat padders choked middle order with no clarity of their role choked too. The pattern is the same, rizwan and babar are biggest stat padder in the business. Heck they even have a famous won against India in t20 world cup which their fans hype. It's exactly the same as Kohli fans. We scored 168 in semis and were trashed by England by 10 wickets. Kohli will never get any support from others as his stat padding style benefits only him. Others around him are forced to take risks early in their innings, hit in the air and get out while he plays safely. Then he takes all the credit, if it clicks he becomes the hero, if it fails he can still blame others Blaming others when it's kohlis style of play which forces others to take risk is hilarious. You yourself claimed Kohli rotates the strike. Which means someone else needs to take risks even if it's a batsman who just came in. New batsman are likely to fail more while hitting than set batsmen. Then why blame others? Found this on twitter. This is from world T20, 2022 against Bangladesh. We could have potentially lost this match becaues of Kohli's innings. Ultimate_Game 1 Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 The way Kohli responded couple of days back, to me it appears as if he actually believes cricket will die once he stops playing. vvvslaxman, Vijy and Ultimate_Game 3 Link to comment
putrevus Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 There is nothing else Kohli needs to prove in any format. He was coming off his worst years in 2022 yet was best India batsman by a mile. He will be just fine again in June and we should all hope he gets some help this time around. Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 3 hours ago, putrevus said: How is it Kohli’s fault if they don’t have lower order batting or openers not firing. They have been winning what ever they won only due to one batsman. On one side you say Kohli don't get any support. On other hand you say Jadeja & Pandya are the best we have and they haven't done anything wrong to not get selected. Now this is a confusion, both statements can't be true. Anyway, I don't agree that Kohli was at fault, we werent good enough. But perhaps the time has come now to move away from him, Rohit, Jadeja etc in T20's. If they still don't retire after this T20 WC, then I don't think anyone will be able to defend them anymore. Link to comment
putrevus Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 15 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: On one side you say Kohli don't get any support. On other hand you say Jadeja & Pandya are the best we have and they haven't done anything wrong to not get selected. Now this is a confusion, both statements can't be true. Anyway, I don't agree that Kohli was at fault, we werent good enough. But perhaps the time has come now to move away from him, Rohit, Jadeja etc in T20's. If they still don't retire after this T20 WC, then I don't think anyone will be able to defend them anymore. Kohli did not get any support from other batsmen. yes they can be both true . Pandya and Jadeja are only two reasonable allrounders who can bowl their 4 overs in this team. But in .2022 Jadeja did not play , how did Axar do there ? Everyone including Rahul knew he was going to flop in semis but both coach and captain refused to even change the batting order. Like I said many times I was fine with sending all youngsters to the world Cup. Nobody owes Rohit or Kohli anything. Why are we expecting Jadeja who bats at number 7 or 8 to win matches on his own? Do you have any alternative to Pandya ? Link to comment
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