cricspirit Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 The problem with Indian experienced batters I am observing this IPL is they are afraid to get out. Specially when they come in and until they have scored 20 odd runs. This is why they get into survival instinct first and only attack if there Is ball that they are comfortable scoring from. They feel they can cash in later but T20 is so fast these days with lot of other batters waiting. However these guys focus on their own first and team later. They waste balls upfront and if they get out after 20 balls they leave a hole. Even when they get to 40 of 30 balls they leave a hole. The only time they get above 150 SR is when they have consumed 8 to 10 overs for themselves. This applies to Virat, Shreyas, KL Rahul and even GIll many a times. Used to apply to Rohit as well but he seems to have more intent these days without regard for his wicket. Capabilities aside the mindset of these players creates the issue for India and the prime reason we need an overhaul. Rinku, SKY, Jaiswal, Abhishek kind are not waiting around protecting their wicket. express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RajBan Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, cricspirit said: The problem with Indian experienced batters I am observing this IPL is they are afraid to get out. Specially when they come in and until they have scored 20 odd runs. This is why they get into survival instinct first and only attack if there Is ball that they are comfortable scoring from. They feel they can cash in later but T20 is so fast these days with lot of other batters waiting. However these guys focus on their own first and team later. They waste balls upfront and if they get out after 20 balls they leave a hole. Even when they get to 40 of 30 balls they leave a hole. The only time they get above 150 SR is when they have consumed 8 to 10 overs for themselves. This applies to Virat, Shreyas, KL Rahul and even GIll many a times. Used to apply to Rohit as well but he seems to have more intent these days without regard for his wicket. Capabilities aside the mindset of these players creates the issue for India and the prime reason we need an overhaul. Rinku, SKY, Jaiswal, Abhishek kind are not waiting around protecting their wicket. That's why likes of Rinku, Sky, Jaiswal and Abhishek must be selected without any debate ahead of players like KL who can't handle pressure and Hardik who are media created phenomenon. I will even take Pant ahead of KL if his fitness is not in question even though his T20 records are always hit and miss. Unfortunately worship culture will ensure that both Kohli and Rohit will play, hence we need to bet on players who are not too protective about their wickets. express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Whiteball format needs a completely different team. Pick as little players form test team as possible. I can't think of anyone being able adapt seamless between formats. Start with fearless youngsters with a solid leader. Pant or Samson can lead the side. Gill can be deputy. Stan AF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cricspirit Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 (edited) 3 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Whiteball format needs a completely different team. Pick as little players form test team as possible. I can't think of anyone being able adapt seamless between formats. Start with fearless youngsters with a solid leader. Pant or Samson can lead the side. Gill can be deputy. I don't think Pant is necessarily better than Samson in anything at this point. Pant is not yet reliable both because of his comeback and because of this format. In between those two definitely Samson should be ahead right now as a WK/Batter/Captain. Make our batters bowl 4 overs and take proper 7 batters. then Bumrah, Kuldeep, Mayank/Rana, Another bowler. No point of having an allrounder at 7 who cant be reliable with the ball or bat. Also why the hell Rohit need to captain India when even IPL discarded him as captain. My please do not play list in order - Hardik Kohli Rohit Jadeja/Axar KL Rahul Mukesh and his kind Shreyas Iyer Kishan Edited April 15 by cricspirit Lord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Bhuvi puts his hat in with a majestic 60 Lone Wolf, vvvslaxman, Sgattick10 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putrevus Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 (edited) Head plays all formats, so do most Aussies, they are just doing fine. India does not need different players for different formats. Only thing it needs is not to be dependent on just one or two players. Edited April 15 by putrevus Chaos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serpico Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 48 minutes ago, putrevus said: Head plays all formats, so do most Aussies, they are just doing fine. India does not need different players for different formats. Only thing it needs is not to be dependent on just one or two players. Head can bowl, just like smith, labushane, cam green, maxwell, mitch marsh. They fit their plans because they are flexible. They can move allover the batting order based on the team needs. Our all format batsmen are extremely rigid. Can't bowl, can't move around batting order, can't accelerate at will. So no comparison with the Aussies Sgattick10, BacktoCricaddict and Chaos 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 hour ago, putrevus said: Head plays all formats, so do most Aussies, they are just doing fine. India does not need different players for different formats. Only thing it needs is not to be dependent on just one or two players. Head bats exactly like that in Tests as well lol So don't use him as an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New guy Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 hour ago, putrevus said: Head plays all formats, so do most Aussies, they are just doing fine. India does not need different players for different formats. Only thing it needs is not to be dependent on just one or two players. Most Aussies are not stat padders in T20 who make their team underachieve and destroy the balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooda Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Intent 11 Shaw Abhishek Samson Sky Tilak Dube Tewatia Rana Sen Mohsin Mayank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted April 16 Author Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, Sooda said: Intent 11 Shaw Abhishek Samson Sky Tilak Dube Tewatia Rana Sen Mohsin Mayank shaw out for rohit any day. Jaiswal over abhishek anyday, gill over tilak any day. Anyways if this was exam ill rip ur sheet off. No bumrah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted April 16 Author Share Posted April 16 4 hours ago, putrevus said: Head plays all formats, so do most Aussies, they are just doing fine. India does not need different players for different formats. Only thing it needs is not to be dependent on just one or two players. true head can do many things, if u know what i mean. express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted April 16 Author Share Posted April 16 6 hours ago, Lord said: Bhuvi puts his hat in with a majestic 60 bhuvi this guy lost the plot. Bowlong his thunderbolts at 120s and short of length. Even hyderabad u-13 players will smack his sixes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 We have a dark horse for the world cup AuxiliA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted April 16 Author Share Posted April 16 1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said: We have a dark horse for the world cup these days anyway to make money….. i need to rethink my life choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Mohammad Kaif's 11 and squad for the WC 1. Rohit 2. Jaiswal 3. Kohli 4. SKY 5. Hardik 6. Pant 7. Jadeja 8. Axar 9. Kuldeep 10. Bumrah 11. Arshdeep 12. Parag 13 Dube 14. Siraj 15. Chahal Talked a lot about experience. Basically picked all the big names and seniors. Picked one youngster in the squad ( not in the 11 ) to show that he supports youngsters. Acute lack of firepower in the top 7. Has 3 spinners in the playing 11 which does not work in modern T20s. No backup for the 3 allrounders he has selected. Dube can't bowl.4 overs. This is how most Indian ex-players operate and they form our TM and selection committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan AF Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 8 hours ago, putrevus said: Head plays all formats, so do most Aussies, they are just doing fine. India does not need different players for different formats. Only thing it needs is not to be dependent on just one or two players. Actually head plays in only one way (T20 format scoring) in all 3 formats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 6 minutes ago, express bowling said: Mohammad Kaif's 11 and squad for the WC 1. Rohit 2. Jaiswal 3. Kohli 4. SKY 5. Hardik 6. Pant 7. Jadeja 8. Axar 9. Kuldeep 10. Bumrah 11. Arshdeep 12. Parag 13 Dube 14. Siraj 15. Chahal Talked a lot about experience. Basically picked all the big names and seniors. Picked one youngster in the squad ( not in the 11 ) to show that he supports youngsters. Acute lack of firepower in the top 7. Has 3 spinners in the playing 11 which does not work in modern T20s. No backup for the 3 allrounders he has selected. Dube can't bowl.4 overs. This is how most Indian ex-players operate and they form our TM and selection committee. No wonder we don't win anything. All the highlighted guys should be chucked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan AF Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Triple v s laxman Why don't you write down your playing 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 4 minutes ago, Stan AF said: Triple v s laxman Why don't you write down your playing 11 I already wrote in another thread or this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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