vvvslaxman Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 spiritb2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhaan Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 There should be some training of sorts for commentary,people have now started feeling it quite cringy Bhogle is all time worst commentator Manju was right for once express bowling and Gollum 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kepler37b Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Harsha has become extremely pedestrain. He does not have the cricket acumen like a ex cricketer. I am sure he does not know the fielding positions as well. Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuxiliA Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Desis, unless they are born or raised in the west, are not eloquent English speakers, understandably so. They can't compete with the native English speaking commentators. It just doesn't come naturally to them. Make peace with it. Lord, Sgattick10 and Gollum 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted April 18 Author Share Posted April 18 40 minutes ago, AuxiliA said: Desis, unless they are born or raised in the west, are not eloquent English speakers, understandably so. They can't compete with the native English speaking commentators. It just doesn't come naturally to them. Make peace with it. When it comes to calling events even Manjrekar is better than Harsha. We are not comparing with foreign commentators. Even within Indian commies he is the worst Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepdynamo Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 The treacherous trio of Indian commentary- Gavaskar, Shastri and Bhogle. They have been commentating since 90's and full of stale cliches, repeated phrases, humourless punches and no real cricker insight. On top of that, they have alao become BCCI watchdogs. Later on, Manjerkar joined them and become part of the circus. Then there are boring one tone BCCI cheerleaders like Murali Karrik ans Deep Das Gupta. The Indian english commentary team is incredibly dull despite having all the money. The only Indian commentator I like is Ajit Agarkar ( until he become the chief selector) and Irfan Pathan (hindi). Apart from them, its shitshow everywhere. Gollum, express bowling and tweaker 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuxiliA Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 26 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: When it comes to calling events even Manjrekar is better than Harsha. We are not comparing with foreign commentators. Even within Indian commies he is the worst Harsha used to be good until 7-8 years ago. He was publicly chided for being too critical towards Indian cricketers. I remember Amitabh Bachchan tweeting against Harsha out of nowhere. Then he began sugar coating everything he said and lost his panache. Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted April 18 Author Share Posted April 18 23 minutes ago, AuxiliA said: Harsha used to be good until 7-8 years ago. He was publicly chided for being too critical towards Indian cricketers. I remember Amitabh Bachchan tweeting against Harsha out of nowhere. Then he began sugar coating everything he said and lost his panache. This "Wbat a ball" is one of the most cringeworthy expression. Bumrah's decimation of Ollie pope's stump. They shared some radio or some English commentary for the same event. Damn that was surreal. In cricket there used to be a role "Expert commentator". May be they should create a role for Harsha. "Random talk expert" something like that. calling the event should be left to someone better. tweaker and Gollum 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaqw222222 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 29 minutes ago, AuxiliA said: Harsha used to be good until 7-8 years ago. He was publicly chided for being too critical towards Indian cricketers. I remember Amitabh Bachchan tweeting against Harsha out of nowhere. Then he began sugar coating everything he said and lost his panache. MS Dhoni also retweeted it which resulted in Bhogle being dropped from commentary box for some series. Gollum and AuxiliA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemsip Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said: This "Wbat a ball" is one of the most cringeworthy expression. Bumrah's decimation of Ollie pope's stump. They shared some radio or some English commentary for the same event. Damn that was surreal. In cricket there used to be a role "Expert commentator". May be they should create a role for Harsha. "Random talk expert" something like that. calling the event should be left to someone better. The strange thing is that he appears to have gone backwards as a commentator. When you see him talking normally in discussions, he appears sober and quite well spoken. However in front of the TV mike, he has taken up shouting loudly and often talks way too much for TV..it's almost like a radio commentator. On top of that he has adopted a very affected, pretentious way of speaking as if he is trying very hard to get plaudits for the way he frames sentences rather than the quality of his insights. The sum total of all this is that he is near the top of my "must mute" list of Indian commentators ( Shastri, Manju and Gavaskar are also there) Edited April 18 by lemsip Gollum and Vk1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollingstoned Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 59 minutes ago, lemsip said: The strange thing is that he appears to have gone backwards as a commentator. When you see him talking normally in discussions, he appears sober and quite well spoken. However in front of the TV mike, he has taken up shouting loudly and often talks way too much for TV..it's almost like a radio commentator. On top of that he has adopted a very affected, pretentious way of speaking as if he is trying very hard to get plaudits for the way he frames sentences rather than the quality of his insights. The sum total of all this is that he is near the top of my "must mute" list of Indian commentators ( Shastri, Manju and Gavaskar are also there) Bhogle has made cringe, awkward comments even at his 'best'. He feels a compulsion to bring up EPL out of nowhere to probably show how 'hip' he is and make personal comments that he believes will make the atmosphere 'casual' but lands almost always like a wet fart eg. Once remembered him remarking about Alastair Campbell's weight on air which he didn't appreciate just because a ball hit a batsman in thr midsection. Richie benaud used to rightly say that commentating is more about knowing when not to talk and addng to the viewer experience rather than constantly blabbering inanities on air. I know he is not an ex cricketer but a guy like that should at least soak up knowledge and insight from people like Bishop or be an articulate MC who has a sense of occassion. This fellow is a Virat chomu at that too. Gollum and express bowling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Most of the commentators, Indian or foreign, don't think about what may interest the fans. They just talk about what interests them personally. Bishop, Mbangwa, Robinson and Doull are exceptions. Additionally, most Indian commentators are low on analysis and knowledge about non-superstar players. Suhaan and Gollum 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singhvivek141 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 5 hours ago, AuxiliA said: Desis, unless they are born or raised in the west, are not eloquent English speakers, understandably so. They can't compete with the native English speaking commentators. It just doesn't come naturally to them. Make peace with it. Not sure even in their native languages if the Desi commentators make any sense. Hindi commentary is pretty average with no insights, Bhojpuri & Haryanvi commentary can't even be considered as a commentary...it's more like someone giving narration during a local district level tournament. Not sure about other languages. Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemsip Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 25 minutes ago, express bowling said: Most of the commentators, Indian or foreign, don't think about what may interest the fans. They just talk about what interests them personally. Bishop, Mbangwa, Robinson and Doull are exceptions Can't listen to Mbwangwa either with that weird, affected accent and overly enthusiastic and loud style. For Indian commentators it seems there is no feedback mechanism for them to take inputs and improve. It seems to be a cozy club where the same old guys have been talking on and on for decades without any progress. That certainly wouldn't work in any other profession. In the UK sky got rid of guys like Botham, Gower, David Lloyd etc as they recognised the need to bring in a fresher group to appeal to the younger audience. In India almost all commentators have been at it since the 90s. Something sad about a bunch of people in their 70s and 60s desperately trying stay relevant to a much younger audience. Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan AF Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 8 hours ago, kepler37b said: Harsha has become extremely pedestrain. He does not have the cricket acumen like a ex cricketer. I am sure he does not know the fielding positions as well. He has no other choice. Nobody wants to lose their job. He was removed from commentary after tweets from senile bachchan sr when he criticized holy cow MS Kallathoni's strike rate all the way back in 2016. Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kepler37b Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Stan AF said: He has no other choice. Nobody wants to lose their job. He was removed from commentary after tweets from senile bachchan sr when he criticized holy cow MS Kallathoni's strike rate all the way back in 2016. 10dulya => Kallathoni => Chokli The gods thy shall not analyze. Edited April 18 by kepler37b Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiritb2 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Ganguly & Dravid are good compared to current IPL indian commies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted April 18 Author Share Posted April 18 REmoval of Harsha will definitely improve commentary a bit. If they still want him, use him for post match presentation rather than doing the actual commentary. Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhaan Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 31 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: REmoval of Harsha will definitely improve commentary a bit. If they still want him, use him for post match presentation rather than doing the actual commentary. There is no feedback team or analysis wing to analyse or give them feedbacks on their performance just like the umpires are rated or fedbackedby captains Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted April 18 Author Share Posted April 18 1 minute ago, Suhaan said: There is no feedback team or analysis wing to analyse or give them feedbacks on their performance just like the umpires are rated or fedbackedby captains He is incessantly talking in the commentary box yet fellow commies are tolerating it. It is the responsibility of broadcasters. Long back Srilankan fans had a petition page for removing Ranjith Fernando from commentary box. We may have to have one for Harsha Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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