India manipulating the draw for own benefit has turned T20 World Cup into a farce

[putrevus]

19 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Qualifying semis is just about beating minnows. Less chances of it not happening.

What happened to Pakistan , Australia, NZ and  WI then. I don't see them in semis.

 

Following your line if Qualifying for semis is just beating minnows then beating just one main team is all is needed to reach finals.

 

Every team knows where and when finals will be played along with time. They could have planned for it for months in advance.

Edited June 26, 2024 by putrevus

[Lord]

7 minutes ago, AuxiliA said:

 

The venues for Knockouts are decided months in advance. There are only 2 venues for SFs anyways. All teams can plan accordingly. Don't think it gives any real advantage to India. ICC is doing it solely to milk Indian TV money not to help India win the trophy.

 

The two venues can be vastly different. India picked 4 spinners primarily due to knowing they'll play in Guyana

7 minutes ago, AuxiliA said:

 

 

Well tell that to Aus, Pak, NZ..

They couldn't do that doesn't mean we did anything extraordinary. We'd have qualified even if we didnt beat India.

[Lord]

7 minutes ago, putrevus said:

What happened to Pakistan , Australia, NZ and  WI then. I don't see them in semis.

 

Following your line if Qualifying for semis is just beating minnows then beating just one main team is all is needed to reach finals.

 

Every team knows where and when finals will be played along with time. They could have planned for it for months in advance.

 

Pakistan,Aus,NZ couldn't beat minnows  Tough on WI only.

[Need4Speed]

Seems England is already on the backfoot and preparing excuses..Darr achcha hai..

Aussies still won odi wcup..even though India had their say in the final pitch..if you play good cricket it wont matter..

 

When ICC has to make Virat kohli and co play in wcup or even in olympics..for branding..and promotions..and disturb team balance a bit indirectly..why cant they give pereference in venues..

 

Edited June 26, 2024 by Need4Speed

[putrevus]

1 minute ago, Lord said:

 

Pakistan,Aus,NZ couldn't beat minnows  Tough on WI only.

England lost to the team which could not beat minnows.Then why are they complaining.

[Lord]

Just now, putrevus said:

England lost to the team which could not beat minnows.Then why are they complaining.

They are not complaining about not making it to semi

[neel roy]

End of day whether its Guyana or Melbourne or Lords we have to play well to win.. when we played in 1983 Lords no one gave us a chance.. similarly in 1987 and 1996 everyone expected us to win and we faltered. Conversely 2003 no one gave us a chance in hell after we were thrashed by nz 5-2 and lost to aus in second match..but we reached the finals beating all and if not for ganguly choosing to field we would have won it. In 2007 we again were hot favourites but were dumped by shakib tamin mashrafe like hot potatoes. So end of day irrespective of pitches and venues only good performance on that particular day will win us the tournament..

Edited June 26, 2024 by neel roy

[putrevus]

10 minutes ago, Lord said:

They are not complaining about not making it to semi

I know they are not complaining but I am complaining on how  England which cannot beat like Australia which lost to minnow plus lost to other semifinalist in SA is still in the competition.

Edited June 26, 2024 by putrevus

[Lord]

1 minute ago, putrevus said:

I know they are not complaining but I am complaining on how a England which cannot beat like Australia which lost to minnow plus lost to other semifinalist in SA is still in the competition.

 

This again proves beating minnows is most times enough to be in semi

[AuxiliA]

Just now, Lord said:

 

The two venues can be vastly different. India picked 4 spinners primarily due to knowing they'll play in Guyana

They couldn't do that doesn't mean we did anything extraordinary. We'd have qualified even if we didnt beat India.

 

I doubt they picked 4 spinners just for the one SF match. At the time when the squad was selected, our SF qualification wasn't guaranteed with Aus, NZ, SL in our group. We also had the all important match vs dusman mulk on a pace friendly pitch. 

 

Selecting 4 spinners(especially Chahal) was a bizarre move which still doesn't make sense. 

 

[Texan]

British people crying about scheduling, hosting doesn't gain any sympathy. They held the first 3 World Cups in England, yet couldn't even win one of them.

[coffee_rules]

3 minutes ago, Texan said:

British people crying about scheduling, hosting doesn't gain any sympathy. They held the first 3 World Cups in England, yet couldn't even win one of them.

Remember during 23 WC , they were complaining about long travel, wait times, ticketing (that was genuinely mismanaged), crowd behavior. So nothings changed for haters

[putrevus]

3 hours ago, Lord said:

 

This again proves beating minnows is most times enough to be in semi

No , it proves opposite.

 

Last t20 finalists both lost to minnow  teams .

Edited June 26, 2024 by putrevus

[Muloghonto]

India didn't manipulate ****. The networks manipulated **** and TOLD ICC/BCCI what they want and if they dont like it, they can take far less $$ for telecasts. Thats how it works. 

Why do you think NHL stanley cup finals hosted by florida started 2 hrs later than normal schedule ? Because other finalist Edmonton is a Canadian team and Canadian teams get 1000 times more viewership than Southern US hockey teams ( except LA and Vegas) and Edmonton is 2 hrs behind Florida, so it was normalised for Alberta viewers, while Florida viewers were left to suck on a thumb and deal with 9pm start and 12am-1am finish on weekdays. 

 

Why do you think Djokovic or Federer or Nadal were forced to play Aussie open at freaking 11pm start, going into 3am finish time ? Coz they wanna play in the middle of the night or because 11pm start is like 4pm start for most European countries, where the majority of Tennis viewership is ? 

When billionaire tennis superstars in a solo sport can't control their own play-time and have to play at like 3am, you think team sports has any leeway with where and when to play ? lol. 

 

networks will *always* try and influence start times to get as close to prime-time ( 5pm-10pm on weekdays, later for weekend) for their main target viewership. period. 

If tomorrow NBA finals were hosted in Tokyo, the games will all be held at 7:30am or 8:30 am Japan time, because that translates to 4:30pm-7:30pm start for US viewers. Thats just how the cookie crumbles and blaming a team for it is retarded. 

 

[Chaos]

I have no problem with my chotu shah n his planning, he always counts in the end result dont worry 

[Lord]

10 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

India didn't manipulate ****. The networks manipulated **** and TOLD ICC/BCCI what they want and if they dont like it, they can take far less $$ for telecasts. Thats how it works. 

Why do you think NHL stanley cup finals hosted by florida started 2 hrs later than normal schedule ? Because other finalist Edmonton is a Canadian team and Canadian teams get 1000 times more viewership than Southern US hockey teams ( except LA and Vegas) and Edmonton is 2 hrs behind Florida, so it was normalised for Alberta viewers, while Florida viewers were left to suck on a thumb and deal with 9pm start and 12am-1am finish on weekdays. 

 

Why do you think Djokovic or Federer or Nadal were forced to play Aussie open at freaking 11pm start, going into 3am finish time ? Coz they wanna play in the middle of the night or because 11pm start is like 4pm start for most European countries, where the majority of Tennis viewership is ? 

When billionaire tennis superstars in a solo sport can't control their own play-time and have to play at like 3am, you think team sports has any leeway with where and when to play ? lol. 

 

networks will *always* try and influence start times to get as close to prime-time ( 5pm-10pm on weekdays, later for weekend) for their main target viewership. period. 

If tomorrow NBA finals were hosted in Tokyo, the games will all be held at 7:30am or 8:30 am Japan time, because that translates to 4:30pm-7:30pm start for US viewers. Thats just how the cookie crumbles and blaming a team for it is retarded. 

 

 

Why is there no reserve day for only one of the semi though 

[Lone Wolf]

Aaloo with another gem.. Asia Cup Mai Pak strong position mai tha

 

[rageaddict]

Kanspiracy theories in full flow currently on twitter. 

[rollingstoned]

They have a cope and a way to stick the boot in any which way. If we win the whole thing they'll say it was only because of 'favorable scheduling', if we don't they can say that it's karma and that we cannot win a tournament even with every help being offered and a pliant ICC. 

[jf1gp_1]

17 hours ago, Lord said:

 

The two venues can be vastly different. India picked 4 spinners primarily due to knowing they'll play in Guyana

They couldn't do that doesn't mean we did anything extraordinary. We'd have qualified even if we didnt beat India.

India picked 4 spinners cause 2 can bat. If jaddu or axar couldn't bat then we would have had a shardul with bishnoi.