Hear me out without getting angry: Riyan Parag’s bowling reminds me of Rashid Khan.

[maniac]

Similar trajectory and variations. I am not saying he is that level or will have a similar career but something that sparkled in my eye test.

[Ultimate_Game]

Actually he reminded me of Roston Chase. Varied his speed and also bowled on with a yorker like delivery. Very similar to how Chase bowled in the WT20.

[Strangering]

He reminded me of Ravindra Jadeja for going thru his overs quickly. I even posted about it in the match thread. 

 

A LONG way to go to be productive as those guys tho. 

[Sean Bradley]

He reminds me of Carl Hooper more than anyone else, slow loopy off spin, but being a modern day spinner Riyan has the one that goes the other way aswell. 

[Need4Speed]

He keeps on experimenting with his bowling style..previously I saw him bowling like Kedar jadhav too in IPL..as long as he controls his line and length well..I dont care whose bowling style he copies..

BUT the good thing is he will have some variety in his bowling..off spin,leg spin,yorker,faster one,trajectory variation etc..

[prudent_kreeda]

2 hours ago, Sean Bradley said:

He reminds me of Carl Hooper more than anyone else, slow loopy off spin, but being a modern day spinner Riyan has the one that goes the other way aswell. 

 

but that away ball is with conventional leg break action, so not a surprise ball to batters  if they watch the delivery position of the wrist. Since he mostly is given to bowl to LHB , will need to develop the arm ball from round the wicket which comes in to get bowled or LBW as a variation.

Among the young batters with  part time bowling  options , Parag has more control than Abhishek,Tilak 

Edited July 30, 2024 by prudent_kreeda

[prudent_kreeda]

6 hours ago, maniac said:

Similar trajectory and variations. I am not saying he is that level or will have a similar career but something that sparkled in my eye test.

 

I think It is Bishnoi who is much more similar to Rashid than Parag. 

Both Rashid & Bishnoi  bowl with low point of release , Bowl far quicker , Bowl mostly sliders & googlie and very few leg breaks and both are of similar height.  While Rashid has great control and bowls very well to LHB too and has the ability to spin leg breaks , Bishnoi is inconsistent and not that effective against LHB as he bowls more of googlies going far away from batsmen rather than within the wickets ( a more defensive bowling to LHB). Rashid has the skill & confidence to bowl within the stumps for LHB & RHB and hence more dangerous.Ability to bowl a good leg break along with sliders/googlies within the stumps with great accuracy makes Rashid difficult to read & hence more chance to take wickets while Bishnoi's arm position at delivery makes it very difficult for him to bowl a good leg break with good turn , hence most batters will  find it relatively easy to read him and be ready to play for sliders , googlies without the worry of a leg break delivery .      

Parag bowls a conventional off spin with the normal offie action with bit of a loop. His away going ball is with  a  normal Leg break action . To improve his bowling Parag should develop an arm ball vs LHB which comes in from round the wicket to get Bowled/LBW as a variation as first priority. Ashwin can help him on that aspect to get that variation . Same arm ball when bowled on leg /middle stump to RHB will also be a wicket taking delivery , thus making him a better bowler.  

I  like his Yorker length deliveries as a variation and wish all our other spinners also develop that skill . Very useful in shorter format as a surprise ball.

 

Edited July 30, 2024 by prudent_kreeda

[Nikhil_cric]

6 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

Actually he reminded me of Roston Chase. Varied his speed and also bowled on with a yorker like delivery. Very similar to how Chase bowled in the WT20.

Does not have Roston's control .   Although he definitely gets more revs on the ball. 

[Nikhil_cric]

I don't see Rashid Khan at all.  Rashid is very effective bowling at very high speeds. 

 

Riyan looked a lot better when he slowed it down .  He has no control when he bowls 85 + kph.   Either fires it too full or drags it down 

[Number]

Hats off to your imagination bhai.

This is like looking for Federer in Arbaaz Khan.

[vvvslaxman]

He gives the ball a rip. He reminds me of Sachin Tendulkar in terms of thought process. Tendulkar always tried to turn it be it is off spin or legs pin. 

[maniac]

He is not the worst batsman who can bowl

in recent times I have seen. Let me put it that way.

[Ultimate_Game]

6 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Does not have Roston's control .   Although he definitely gets more revs on the ball. 

 

Other than the first delivery he bowled (half tracker) he was pretty good. Was decent in the first game as well. Seems to have a high ceiling and if he can do what Chase can do for WI that's more than sufficient. We're looking for someone who can bowl 2-3 overs in a T20I and 5-6 overs in ODIs. He seems to fit the bill. Will gain more control the more he bowls and that will happen playing more games. That's why I want the Impact Player rule to be removed in IPL so all-rounders and part-timers like Parag, Abhishek etc. can get to bowl more.

[maniac]

Just now, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Other than the first delivery he bowled (half tracker) he was pretty good. Was decent in the first game as well. Seems to have a high ceiling and if he can do what Chase can do for WI that's more than sufficient. We're looking for someone who can bowl 2-3 overs in a T20I and 5-6 overs in ODIs. He seems to fit the bill. Will gain more control the more he bowls and that will happen playing more games. That's why I want the Impact Player rule to be removed in IPL so all-rounders and part-timers like Parag, Abhishek etc. can get to bowl more.

New Jadeja, bowling looks like the weaker skill on paper and semantics but overall total package bowling is the stronger suit. Obviously relatively speaking

 

With Axar who is a bowling allrounder, batting seems the stronger suit.

[neel roy]

13 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

Actually he reminded me of Roston Chase. Varied his speed and also bowled on with a yorker like delivery. Very similar to how Chase bowled in the WT20.

Actually true!

[Zero_Unit]

More like Poor man's Rashid Khan 

[vvvslaxman]

2 hours ago, maniac said:

He is not the worst batsman who can bowl

in recent times I have seen. Let me put it that way.

 

He is more than  a part timer. He is a level above Livingstone. He is a regular bowler for his state in T20 atleast. India has to harness this. When MSD could turn into a nothing bowler Kedar into some kind of useful part timer why not encourage this guy who already has some skill. 

Edited July 30, 2024 by vvvslaxman

[maniac]

Just now, vvvslaxman said:

 

He is more than  a part timer. He is a level above Livingstone. He is a regular bowler for his state in T20 atleast. 

He seems to enjoy his bowling, that was good to see. 

[Ultimate_Game]

23 minutes ago, maniac said:

New Jadeja, bowling looks like the weaker skill on paper and semantics but overall total package bowling is the stronger suit. Obviously relatively speaking

 

With Axar who is a bowling allrounder, batting seems the stronger suit.

 

As long as we prioritize multi-dimensional players such as Parag, Abhishek etc. and bat deep till 8, I'm good. Not too hung up on the players per se as long as we follow this approach and structure the team the right away.

 

I don't want to see the same top heavy team where batsmen couldn't bowl at all and the tail started from 6! Finally we've started playing the modern game and I don't want us to get away from it.

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

As long as we prioritize multi-dimensional players such as Parag, Abhishek etc. and bat deep till 8, I'm good. Not too hung up on the players per se as long as we follow this approach and structure the team the right away.

 

I don't want to see the same top heavy team where batsmen couldn't bowl at all and the tail started from 6! Finally we've started playing the modern game and I don't want us to get away from it.

As a fan i am feeling a lot more secure with this structure than the super star one-dimensional line up. Even captain will be happy to have many options available at his disposal.