gakgupta Posted March 25 Posted March 25 Probably the best T20 No 6/7 batsmen....not just in india but in the world. If india is not using him .. then wasting the best T20 talent Let the common sense prevail Hitting from first ball is not joke and doing it so consistently looks unreal. Rinku is good at that position but this guy is way better Vk1, Manucrick and raki05 2 1
bowl_out Posted March 25 Posted March 25 2 minutes ago, Lord said: Already 33. Doesn't matter. Just bring him in for the next 1-2 T20 WC cycles. Him and Ashutosh seem a formidable finishing combo.. Looks more lethal than even someone like Rinku Manucrick, AuxiliA, raki05 and 2 others 2 3
gakgupta Posted March 25 Author Posted March 25 8 minutes ago, Lord said: Already 33. How does it matter Use him when he is available...even if it is for 3 years tapandrun, Manucrick, raki05 and 2 others 3 2
tapandrun Posted March 25 Posted March 25 1 hour ago, gakgupta said: How does it matter Use him when he is available...even if it is for 3 years yes t20 should be like it only, who ever is in top form use them its a trend now when a batter in in domestic realizes he can no longer make it to ind side 28-29 yrs, they change their technique and style more suited to t20s, this is more common to mo batters as the chances for them are really thin , and having such vast domestic exp. helps too. ex: sky, rahul tripathi, sushank, dk all changed their game to be suited to t20, only way for them to make it to ind side. Vk1, raki05 and nevada 2 1
Ultimate_Game Posted March 25 Posted March 25 (edited) There're so many deserving players that a few deserving players will be left out. Even Ashutosh will find it tough to get in. IMO the bigger item would be to make a call on SKY. With Iyer showcasing his batting prowess at 3 & 4, and the way he showed up under pressure in CT, the bigger payoff is in Iyer replacing SKY. We need an in-form, performing player at 4 as captain, and not a specialist captain. We can't fit in both SKY and Iyer in the team. We already have top 3 nailed down with Abhishek, Samson/Jaiswal, and Tilak Verma. And SKY & Iyer can't bat below 4. So that leaves one spot for them. Coz after 4 we've Axar at 5, Rinku (or Ashutosh or Parag) at 6, Pandya at 7, another all-rounder at 8 (maybe Parag or someone like Vipraj), and Harshit/Arshdeep, Bumrah, Varun C as 9, 10 and 11. Edited March 27 by Ultimate_Game Norman 1
jf1gp_1 Posted March 26 Posted March 26 You think he would have hit ball 1 onwards in US/WI during WC ?
bowl_out Posted March 26 Posted March 26 Abhishek / (back up : Jaiswal) Samson Tilak Nitish / (back up : SKY) Ashutosh / (back up: Rinku) Shashank Hardik (c) Axar Arshdeep / (back up : Kuldeep) Bumrah Varun Looks a formidable 11, with 2 spinners, 2 quicks + option of spin/quick for the fifth bowler + Nitish. Batting all the way to 8, with power hitters and clutch players at every position. Unfortunately, Jaiswal still has to be in the reserves. Muloghonto 1
tapandrun Posted March 26 Posted March 26 1 hour ago, jf1gp_1 said: You think he would have hit ball 1 onwards in US/WI during WC ? For uncapped ind players its mostly role-based, they are playing every match as audition to the next match. How well they fulfil the role in this game will decide if they can get the next game.
JaFanatic Posted March 26 Posted March 26 9 hours ago, Lord said: Already 33. All that matters is if he could play for two yrs. We're talking about T20Is ryte
cricspirit Posted March 26 Posted March 26 16 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said: There're so many deserving players that a few deserving players will be left out. Even Ashutosh will find it tough to get in. IMO the bigger item would be to make a call on SKY. With Iyer showcasing his batting prowess at 3 & 4, and the way he showed up under pressure in CT, the bigger payoff is in Iyer replacing SKY. We need an in-form, performing player at 4 as captain, and not a specialist captain. We can't fit in both SKY and Iyer in the team. We already have top 3 nailed down with Abhishek, Samson/Jaiswal, and Tilak Verma. And SKY & Iyer can't bat below 4. So that leaves one spot for them. Coz after 4 we've Axar at 5, Rinku (or Ashutosh or Parag) at 6, Pandya at 7, another all-rounder at 8 (maybe Parag or someone like Vipraj), and Harshit, Bumrah, Varun C as 9, 10 and 11. Axar is not a no.5 That Idea needs to change. Axar should bat no. 7 or no.8 Ideally. I don't think SKY deserves top 4 but he put himself there after being captain. Rinku has been wasted more than him doing bad. His T20I strike rate is 160 plus and can take on pressure. Top 4 pool Jaiswal, Abhishek, Samson, Tilak Verma, Gill, Shreyas Iyer, Ishan Kishan (Cant find another top order WK backup) 5-7 Pool SKY, Rinku, Parag, Pandya, Ashutosh, NKR, Shivam Dube, Axar (May be) Cant find a proper middle order WK batter - Jurel (If he improves), Jitesh (Not convinced) 8-11 Axar (should be here), Sundar, Varun, Bishnoi, Arshdeep, Bumrah, Rana, Mayank, Any other bowler on Topic - Let see how Shashank Singh performs the entire IPL as age is not on his side compared to those in 20's. I dont have anything against age as long as he performs and is fit.
Ultimate_Game Posted March 26 Posted March 26 5 hours ago, cricspirit said: Axar is not a no.5 That Idea needs to change. Axar should bat no. 7 or no.8 Ideally. I don't think SKY deserves top 4 but he put himself there after being captain. Rinku has been wasted more than him doing bad. His T20I strike rate is 160 plus and can take on pressure. Top 4 pool Jaiswal, Abhishek, Samson, Tilak Verma, Gill, Shreyas Iyer, Ishan Kishan (Cant find another top order WK backup) 5-7 Pool SKY, Rinku, Parag, Pandya, Ashutosh, NKR, Shivam Dube, Axar (May be) Cant find a proper middle order WK batter - Jurel (If he improves), Jitesh (Not convinced) 8-11 Axar (should be here), Sundar, Varun, Bishnoi, Arshdeep, Bumrah, Rana, Mayank, Any other bowler on Topic - Let see how Shashank Singh performs the entire IPL as age is not on his side compared to those in 20's. I dont have anything against age as long as he performs and is fit. Axar at 5 lends a lot of balance to the team. He sort of acts as a buffer and lengthens the batting lineup. He has been exceptional at 5 in WT20 and CT and one of the reasons we won the two tourneys. No reason to change something which has worked a treat. Norman 1
neel roy Posted March 26 Posted March 26 On 3/25/2025 at 6:26 PM, Lord said: Already 33. Varun C is 33.
Lord Posted March 26 Posted March 26 2 minutes ago, neel roy said: Varun C is 33. Varun does something no one in India does. Mystery spin with good control. Shashank is specialist bat doing finisher role. We have many younger options here, preferably those who can bowl Ultimate_Game 1
cricspirit Posted March 26 Posted March 26 3 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said: Axar at 5 lends a lot of balance to the team. He sort of acts as a buffer and lengthens the batting lineup. He has been exceptional at 5 in WT20 and CT and one of the reasons we won the two tourneys. No reason to change something which has worked a treat. He can bat at 7 to do the same. I don't think his batting at 5 in CT was that great. Don't believe that's the reason we won. He should not bat ahead of KLR and Pandya. Heck he may not even be needed with better all round players. Talking about both ODI and T20I. Why would I want a batter like Axar in top 5 when we have Parag, Jaiswal not even in the team. I am.glad we won the cups. We need to redo our strategy for next one.
jf1gp_1 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 22 hours ago, tapandrun said: For uncapped ind players its mostly role-based, they are playing every match as audition to the next match. How well they fulfil the role in this game will decide if they can get the next game. Ipl has the best of conditions for a batsman. Can we judge a bowler based of what they face at ipl?
tapandrun Posted March 27 Posted March 27 (edited) 20 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said: Ipl has the best of conditions for a batsman. Can we judge a bowler based of what they face at ipl? IPL is the best t20 event in terms of players' quality by a v.big margin, the best talent and the best proven player are playing in this event. Now every white-ball pitches will be good batting wkts, Ind scored multiple 200+ scores in SA, in Ind. recently Nz score at 10+ runs per-over every match in the series vs pak in nz (every time nz batted 1st they got to 200+), Aus has bigger grounds and extra bounce so they do not get 200+ totals that often but that will change too, mitch owens got 2 tons in bbl, steve simth got ton too. If the question is about the selection to Ind side on IPL performance? , as said above its the best t20 event you pick yur player from your top domestic event- select test player from ranji, pick white-ball player from VHT and IPL and T20 player from IPL. See if the player got better off the intnl players or their runs/wkts came of domestic player. Check if those are garbage time or not, check if the performance was repeated over couple of seasons on different grounds or not against different teams, then select a player. after all the checks some player do not perform at highest level, and some with not so good performance at domestic levels finds alot of success at intnl levels t20 is a format where a player can not be under-confident, every single ball counts. 1 bad over can lose the game. So around the core pick and keep players ready who are in top form. Edited March 27 by tapandrun
gakgupta Posted March 29 Author Posted March 29 On 3/26/2025 at 5:31 AM, jf1gp_1 said: You think he would have hit ball 1 onwards in US/WI during WC ? now a days -- t20 pitches are pretty much same all across the world so he do it
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