rangeelaraja Posted April 19, 2025 Posted April 19, 2025 Most BJP supporters are extremely unhappy with how Bengal has been left high and dry - this is not a recent occurrence - even during state elections - BJP workers and their families were victims of extreme violence from TMC goons. In my opinion BJP has just let everybody down especially - the no.1 and no.2 . It’s particularly disappointing when ALOT more could be done with 2 decisive mandates and 10 years of uninterrupted ruling… and now inching towards 15 years. I think having a far RW alternative to BJP at the national level will totally change the electoral dynamics and also decisively stem and reverse the demographic change and illegal immigration. While all opposition parties are competing for fake secularism which basically translates to appeasing a large minority votebank - nobody is competing to appease the Hindu votebank - its just BJP by itself. This is the most astonishing aspect of Indian politics. There is a risk that BJP may lose considerable seats because of vote splitting - but it will be forced to change its own politics and bring reforms with much greater speed. If BJP / RSS is smart enough - they should create such an offshoot - and let it pursue that constituency and then form a strategic alliance with the so called offshoot . BJP can be the softer face for international image and PR while the offshoot can force the agenda. This is not fanciful game theory. Look at the state of Bengal, Kerala, Assam. The cancer will gradually consume India if the dynamics don’t change. The cancer has a 1400 year old history of dismembering or turning to dust whatever it touches. Our incomparably glorious culture, civilization… everything will be buried like has happened to the once great Persian civilization that was consumed by the cancer. BJP / RSS have not shown that capability on their own. raki05 and Muloghonto 1 1
kepler37b Posted April 19, 2025 Posted April 19, 2025 It will only happen when there is a 10%+ hindu population values culture and faith above economic/regional/family sentiments. Currently that figure is not even 5%. The good thing is that number is on up-tick. raki05 1
coffee_rules Posted April 20, 2025 Posted April 20, 2025 It takes at least two GE cycles for any party to establish nationally. Nothing is there as an alternative for dharmics politically other than BJP. A regional party in WB that caters to Hindu interests will be a start, but bhadraloks are from another planet who don’t care about their demographic imbalance with heads buried in sundarban swamp lands sorak and raki05 1 1
Lone Wolf Posted April 20, 2025 Posted April 20, 2025 (edited) 7 hours ago, coffee_rules said: It takes at least two GE cycles for any party to establish nationally. Nothing is there as an alternative for dharmics politically other than BJP. A regional party in WB that caters to Hindu interests will be a start, but bhadraloks are from another planet who don’t care about their demographic imbalance with heads buried in sundarban swamp lands A BSP style GC party could definitely be worked upon. Rajputs Brahmins Khatris etc... I'd even add Non Pasmanda Muslims for PR purposes. Unless GC can come up with something like this .. they might as well collectively leave this country which btw they are doing. Their declining population and alarmingly low birth rate means they are bound to vanish sooner than later. Politically they are as useless as a community can be with nothing to offer to both sets. BJP has already strengthened SC ST act to several manifold & there was not a peep from GC's lmao Edited April 20, 2025 by Lone Wolf
raki05 Posted April 20, 2025 Posted April 20, 2025 4 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: A BSP style GC party could definitely be worked upon. Rajputs Brahmins Khatris etc... I'd even add Non Pasmanda Muslims for PR purposes. Unless GC can come up with something like this .. they might as well collectively leave this country which btw they are doing. Their declining population and alarmingly low birth rate means they are bound to vanish sooner than later. Politically they are as useless as a community can be with nothing to offer to both sets. BJP has already strengthened SC ST act to several manifold & there was not a peep from GC's lmao GC??
Lone Wolf Posted April 20, 2025 Posted April 20, 2025 2 minutes ago, raki05 said: GC?? General caste raki05 1
Muloghonto Posted April 20, 2025 Posted April 20, 2025 I dont think this is a good idea, simply because Hindu vote isnt consolidated like muslim votes are and adding another party to the frey leads to vote splitting. Plus, i dont think Indian politics is mature enough to create such alliances long term, look at what happened between bjp and shiv sena and if you told balasaheb in the 1990s that his own son would side with congress over bjp and push pro muslim legislations, he would've straight up shot you in the face. I think what bjp needs to do, is make a tacit understanding with bajrang dal and shiv sena and unleash THEM as the far right hindu parties.
straighttalk Posted April 20, 2025 Posted April 20, 2025 Great idea...a Taliban style party will make India Great Again
Muloghonto Posted April 20, 2025 Posted April 20, 2025 5 minutes ago, straighttalk said: Great idea...a Taliban style party will make India Great Again hindu parties will never be taliban, we dont have islamic disease of mass murdering our own sects like the taliban do, who mass murder shias.
straighttalk Posted April 20, 2025 Posted April 20, 2025 5 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: hindu parties will never be taliban, we dont have islamic disease of mass murdering our own sects like the taliban do, who mass murder shias. A HINDUVTA party will..you were saying you want to eradicate Muslims from India in the other thread...you were happy to support riots in Gujarat with the rumor that Muslims intentionally set train on fire ..even though it was not proven 1. Was it Muslim right after the accident and 2. Whether it was intentional. Both facts are still disputed. So yes the true religion of Hindu will not have a place for adharmic people .
Muloghonto Posted April 20, 2025 Posted April 20, 2025 14 minutes ago, straighttalk said: A HINDUVTA party will..you were saying you want to eradicate Muslims from India in the other thread...you were happy to support riots in Gujarat with the rumor that Muslims intentionally set train on fire ..even though it was not proven 1. Was it Muslim right after the accident and 2. Whether it was intentional. Both facts are still disputed. So yes the true religion of Hindu will not have a place for adharmic people . Why will we, when we have zero history of mass murdering our own sects and zero history of jihad and crusades ?!. I didn't say I wanna eradicate Muslims. That's a lie. I said I want to eradicate Islam. Which is same as wiping a religion out via conversions. That is a justified right as religions don't have rights only people do.
BacktoCricaddict Posted April 20, 2025 Posted April 20, 2025 2 hours ago, Lord said: How would BJP offshoot compete against BJP Like DMK ADMK AIADMK Lord 1
straighttalk Posted April 20, 2025 Posted April 20, 2025 4 hours ago, Muloghonto said: Why will we, when we have zero history of mass murdering our own sects and zero history of jihad and crusades ?!. I didn't say I wanna eradicate Muslims. That's a lie. I said I want to eradicate Islam. Which is same as wiping a religion out via conversions. That is a justified right as religions don't have rights only people do. Hinduism has less instances..HINDUVTA is a violent radical offshoot ..it's not tolerant ..it's hate filled..unless it is stopped in its track...it will take down the country like the Nazis took down Germany..like Mujahedeens have taken down Islam..
coffee_rules Posted April 20, 2025 Posted April 20, 2025 (edited) 17 hours ago, straighttalk said: Hinduism has less instances..HINDUVTA is a violent radical offshoot ..it's not tolerant ..it's hate filled..unless it is stopped in its track...it will take down the country like the Nazis took down Germany..like Mujahedeens have taken down Islam.. O avaidya aghnani , do you know what Hindutva means? It means the essence of being a Hindu. There is no difference between Hinduism and Hindutva. Hindutva is a political response from Hindus to predatory abrahamic religions when its existence is threatened . It is how Hinduism has survived all through the Islamic and Christian invasions for more than 2000 years. So, shut it! It is not hatred that drives Hindutva. It is Dharmo Rakshati Rakshitah! It means Dharma protects those who protect it". Mlecchas like you will never understand Edited April 21, 2025 by coffee_rules sorak 1
Muloghonto Posted April 21, 2025 Posted April 21, 2025 4 hours ago, straighttalk said: Hinduism has less instances..HINDUVTA is a violent radical offshoot ..it's not tolerant ..it's hate filled..unless it is stopped in its track...it will take down the country like the Nazis took down Germany..like Mujahedeens have taken down Islam.. Show us citation of hinduvta mass murdering their own sects or waging jihad or crusade. You sound like a Jain pretending to be a Hindu like *-u bapu. We are entitled to resist and erase Islam for being the degerate religion it is. As well as your liberalism for promoting child rape ideology in the west.
Muloghonto Posted April 21, 2025 Posted April 21, 2025 4 hours ago, straighttalk said: Hinduism has less instances..HINDUVTA is a violent radical offshoot ..it's not tolerant ..it's hate filled..unless it is stopped in its track...it will take down the country like the Nazis took down Germany..like Mujahedeens have taken down Islam.. Show us citation of hinduvta mass murdering their own sects or waging jihad or crusade. You sound like a Jain pretending to be a Hindu like *-u bapu. We are entitled to resist and erase Islam for being the degerate religion it is. As well as your liberalism for promoting child rape ideology in the west.
ravishingravi Posted April 21, 2025 Posted April 21, 2025 Always amusing to see experts on internet who opine on what RSS is not doing right. And RSS has been at it for 75 years quietly chipping at it. They know what they are dealing with. Muloghonto 1
straighttalk Posted April 21, 2025 Posted April 21, 2025 15 hours ago, Muloghonto said: Show us citation of hinduvta mass murdering their own sects or waging jihad or crusade. You sound like a Jain pretending to be a Hindu like *-u bapu. We are entitled to resist and erase Islam for being the degerate religion it is. As well as your liberalism for promoting child rape ideology in the west. 15 hours ago, Muloghonto said: Show us citation of hinduvta mass murdering their own sects or waging jihad or crusade. You sound like a Jain pretending to be a Hindu like *-u bapu. We are entitled to resist and erase Islam for being the degerate religion it is. As well as your liberalism for promoting child rape ideology in the west. Erase how..that's the question I am asking..entitled to do what
Vilander Posted April 21, 2025 Posted April 21, 2025 On 4/19/2025 at 1:26 PM, rangeelaraja said: It’s particularly disappointing when ALOT more could be done with 2 decisive mandates and 10 years of uninterrupted ruling… and now inching towards 15 years. Genuine question, Elucidate what can be done ?
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