Terror attack in Pahalgam 27 civilians killed

[deathmonger]

What India should do right now - strain their armed forces by being on the border and cause casualties using BLA/TTP/unknown gunmen - preferably in Lahore/Karachi.

 

Balochistan/KPK are anyways no go zone for Pakistani. Their PSL teams play in Punjab.

 

Also salami slicing using IWT. Small measures which cause 10-20% damage if you will but for a poor nation like Pak that is enough.

[deathmonger]

Just now, MechEng said:

 

If China and USA are concerning them, then that makes India look innocuous to be frank and gives Pakistan full freedom to conduct proxy wars. It also reduces the bravado of ICF posters here to a mere rubble.

 

Vietnam and Cuba never backed off and fought hard against Americans even when the odds were against them. I do not hate ordinary Pakistanis or wish for an all-out war with them, but if we cannot assure our citizens of basic safety then this country does not deserve your patriotism.

Vietnam and Cuba never had the opportunity that we had though.

 

We can literally become the third superpower by 2040 with upper middle income stats and by the mid 2050s bonafide first world.

 

I know anger is flaring but we have to bide our time.

[deathmonger]

 

This guy has got it right. Hurt them by non-kinetic actions using proxies etc.

 

Ofc they watch India succeed in non military fields which is a pain point for the public as well (Chandrayaan, CT 2025 etc).

[MechEng]

3 minutes ago, deathmonger said:

What India should do right now - strain their armed forces by being on the border and cause casualties using BLA/TTP/unknown gunmen - preferably in Lahore/Karachi.

 

Balochistan/KPK are anyways no go zone for Pakistani. Their PSL teams play in Punjab.

 

Also salami slicing using IWT. Small measures which cause 10-20% damage if you will but for a poor nation like Pak that is enough.

 

I am really skeptical if we can have this kind of focus. Within 3 years, there will be Aman ki Asha again with all Shahid Afridi being invited as a chief guest to Indian events in Dubai.

[Lone Wolf]

1 minute ago, MechEng said:

 

If China and USA are concerning them, then that makes India look innocuous to be frank and gives Pakistan full freedom to conduct proxy wars. It also reduces the bravado of ICF posters here to a mere rubble.

 

Vietnam and Cuba never backed off and fought hard against Americans even when the odds were against them. I do not hate ordinary Pakistanis or wish for an all-out war with them, but if we cannot assure our citizens of basic safety then this country does not deserve your patriotism.

Even India in 65 & 71 fought against entire US deep state Middle East and Western block to carve out Bangladesh.

Pakistan in 1965 was literally called Tiger of Asia.. and yet we invaded Pakistani Punjab shocking the World.

Those two wars were main reason we stopped Pakistan from further growing and stagnating their GDP, rise of radicalisation & spelling doom on their economic rise.

 

That entire breed of leadership was different... Nationalism was at all time high level.

Current crop would sh"t in their pants at the prospect of facing such adversaries.

[deathmonger]

Just now, MechEng said:

 

I am really skeptical if we can have this kind of focus. Within 3 years, there will be Aman ki Asha again with all Shahid Afridi being invited as a chief guest to Indian events in Dubai.

That is ultimate chutiapa.

 

Just do small things - like kicking out all Pakistani info from cricinfo for example. Keep their data to not * with stats but you can't see them directly.

[deathmonger]

Another thing India should definitely do in 10-15 years to solve the Pakistan question once and for all is apart from having superior military capabilities, start arming Afghanistan.

 

This is basically the same thing China does with Pak now.

 

Imagine in the 2040s Taliban with Tejas Mk2s and AMCAs lol.

 

In a way that is what happens in cricket - Pakistani would like to compete with us but keep getting their ass kicked by SL, Bangla, Afg, USA etc some of which are honing their skills in IPL or the many IPL adjacent leagues.

[MechEng]

@deathmonger, do you really think India will ever develop such sustained amount of focus and discipline and will have the means to achieve the same? Only 2% of the country pays tax and the middle class are leaving one by one for overseas due to stagnation in quality of life.

 

Just acknowledge the fact that this country somehow runs through luck only.

Edited April 30, 2025 by MechEng

[putrevus]

Indira Gandhi had guts to oppose Nixon when India had nothing and successfully defeat Pakistan.Modi is afraid of China and US coming to rescue Pakistan.

 

Natuaki kar raha hai chaiwala. More than ten years in power and you don't have balls to do anything.

 

Who cares what China does . do the right thing world will understand.China will do nothing.

Edited April 30, 2025 by putrevus

[coffee_rules]

India Pakistan war going on now

[coffee_rules]

More war footage…

 

 

[goose]

47 minutes of debating pahalgam in the british houses of parliament.

 

 

[Vancouver]

I think Modi got played by Trump administration. 

 

Also he showed all his cards too early by saying big words too early after the attack.

 

Now Pakistan is just sitting tight waiting for a miscalculation, do not underestimate them, one wrong move and you will be at brink of full scaled war.

[MechEng]

4 hours ago, Vancouver said:

I think Modi got played by Trump administration. 

 

Also he showed all his cards too early by saying big words too early after the attack.

 

Now Pakistan is just sitting tight waiting for a miscalculation, do not underestimate them, one wrong move and you will be at brink of full scaled war.

 

Is India a colonial state of the US or something? What is stopping it from defending itself? Did the US heed to external advice before invading Afghanistan?

 

What do you mean by not underestimating Pakistan? This is not a sport contest going on, but to give a resounding response to terror handlers.

If India cannot protect itself, nobody should take us seriously.

[LordPrabhzy]

21 hours ago, Vicks57 said:

 

"The less criminal groups we have in India the better" - We can deport the Biharis then.

 

Just Kidding!

 

Thats the one thing im in agreement in you with

[putrevus]

Pakistani army is doing what it has done since 1947 to stay relevant.

 

It is bleeding India by thousand cuts. Pakistani army's aim is not to defeat India in a war.Its only aim is to stay relevant by keeping Kashmir issue alive to justify its existence and budget.

 

When is India going to realize this and shut them up for good.

 

Was our PM  only after making money from businesses who wanted to cash in on Kashmiri tourism and other avenues which were out of reach till 370 was there. Was money the only reason behind removal of 370.

 

What will US think or what will China do , why are these even questions. So many innocent people have lost their lives and I doubt our genius PM has any plan.

Edited May 1, 2025 by putrevus

[Lone Wolf]

18 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Pakistani army is doing what it has done since 1947 to stay relevant.

 

It is bleeding India by thousand cuts. Pakistani army's aim is not to defeat India in a war.Its only aim is to stay relevant by keeping Kashmir issue alive to justify its existence and budget.

 

When is India going to realize this and shut them up for good.

 

Was our PM  only after making money from businesses who wanted to cash in on Kashmiri tourism and other avenues which were out of reach till 370 was there. Was money the only reason behind removal of 370.

 

What will US think or what will China do , why are these even questions. So many innocent people have lost their lives and I doubt our genius PM has any plan.

India is only 4 trillion dollar economy that is yet to hit Industrialization phase..

Of course it will be worried about US and China's involvement in any conflict with Paxtan.

 

A zombie state like Paxtan will be kept afloat by US China to needle India and keep it tied in South Asia.  It is Deep state's tried and tested formula.

 

Leaders like Indira Gandhi are once in a generation type.

Modi G himself is blackpilled by the state of the nation.

 

Edited May 1, 2025 by Lone Wolf

[putrevus]

1 minute ago, Lone Wolf said:

India is only 4 trillion dollar economy that is yet to hit Industrialization phase..

Of course it will be worried about US and China's involvement in any conflict with Paxtan.

 

A zombie state like Paxtan will be kept afloat by US China to needle India and keep it tied in South Asia.  It is Deep state's tried and tested formula.

 

What is your point.

[Lone Wolf]

Just now, putrevus said:

What is your point.

You said what US and China thinks doesn't matters but that's the only thing that matters 

 

World bank has just today announced 100 million $ aid to Pakistan.  We all know where that aid is going to go.

 

[Muloghonto]

6 hours ago, MechEng said:

 

Is India a colonial state of the US or something? What is stopping it from defending itself? Did the US heed to external advice before invading Afghanistan?

 

What do you mean by not underestimating Pakistan? This is not a sport contest going on, but to give a resounding response to terror handlers.

If India cannot protect itself, nobody should take us seriously.

 

Every nation that isnt USA, USSR or China since 1947 is an effective dominion and colonial state in international affairs.

USA forced UK+France to stfu and gtfo when they invaded Egypt in 1950s.

USSR flat-out told us in 1971 that they will go to nuclear war with USA if necessary to protect us, but they WILL NOT allow us to break west pakistan itself - if we try, they wont use their veto to protect us.

Reality is, the only nations that have EVER been able to give full response to their enemies are either these 3 nations - the true global powers of modern world- or had their full 100% backing - ala 'usa supports israel in everything, blank cheque' policy.

So where USA stands on all this, determines if we are going to do a tit for tat hit and run or a full scale invasion of some sort.

This is reality of great power politics at the high table : only people with a towering economy + military industrial complex of their own can act truly independently and say 'faack u, i do what i want, jo ukharna haye, ukhaar lo'

And since 1947, thats only 3 countries - USA, USSR/Russia and China. The end.