deepdynamo Posted June 22 Posted June 22 (edited) Its boom or bust for India right now. No point burning your trump card when two white ball world cup are on the horizon. Sacrifice this WTC cycle, test water, blood in new batsman and bowlers & don't look for just results. T20 WC 2026 & ODI WC 2027 are two prime events and we need our trump card PRIME Bumrah and even Arshdeep fit & firing for both these events. These two events are legacy defining events and no one will remember WTC 25-27 even if you don't make the final. Our test bowling is in shambles. No proper planning were done and now we are with rookies, inconsistent Siraj and old man Shami. Save Bumrah as much as possible with rigours of test cricket. At worst, Bumrah will be a 300 wkt test bowler at 23-24 average and that is still elite. But if Bumrah can help India win the next two white ball events, he will be the greatest cricketer India has ever produced. Edited June 22 by deepdynamo Ultimate_Game 1
raki05 Posted June 22 Posted June 22 Save bumrah for test and odi wc …. T20 wc he has already won. Dont play him in useless t20s and useless biletral… groom all your kachras and new upcoming fast bowlers there keep bumrah only for overseas test and wc. cricspirit, express bowling, Lord and 1 other 2 1 1
MechEng Posted June 22 Posted June 22 Save Bumrah for test and IPL only. deepdynamo, raki05 and Stan AF 3
deepdynamo Posted June 22 Author Posted June 22 4 hours ago, raki05 said: Save bumrah for test and odi wc …. T20 wc he has already won. Dont play him in useless t20s and useless biletral… groom all your kachras and new upcoming fast bowlers there keep bumrah only for overseas test and wc. I know Test cricket is the ultimate format but teams will increasingly prepare flat decks to ground Bumrah to dust. T20 WC at home next year is as big as ODI WC 2027. Without Bumrah, we are half the team in T20. Can't afford to miss that. If we would have solid bowlers to compliment and share the workload with Bumrah then it would have been fine in Test cricket. But thats not the case. This is Bumrah peak now ( 2025-27) and I rather have Bumrah win us couple of white ball trophies than toiling hard on flat pitches in Test cricket. raki05 1
singhvivek141 Posted June 22 Posted June 22 Let's stop playing Test Cricket then altogether. express bowling 1
singhvivek141 Posted June 22 Posted June 22 Let's stop playing Test Cricket then altogether. putrevus 1
Ultimate_Game Posted June 22 Posted June 22 Fully agree with OP! No point in running Bumrah into the ground playing Tests where he's the one man army and can't wiin India Tests on his own. Save him for LOIs - ODIs and T20Is. At least we can win a couple more trophies and Bumrah's contributions can actually make a difference. If we don't do that, Bumrah will be finished in the next couple of years. Save him for shorter formats for another 4-5 years. Also, no point in playing 5 Test series. 3-4 Tests max should be the way to go. 4 Test series itself is long enough. With 5 Tests you'll have best players, especially bowlers drop out due to fatigue and injuries. deepdynamo 1
Sooda Posted June 22 Posted June 22 I don't think so. They're managing his work load already, rightly so. He needs to not play point less bilaterals, he doesn't anyway. Only play LOI tournaments and selected test cricket
Lord Posted June 22 Posted June 22 Bumrah can just walk in WC and WT20. Doesnt need to play bilaterals etc. Play Tests then Ideally even Pandu should be doing that but that is a different story Manucrick, Gollum, Ultimate_Game and 3 others 2 4
Ultimate_Game Posted June 22 Posted June 22 3 hours ago, Lord said: Bumrah can just walk in WC and WT20. Doesnt need to play bilaterals etc. Play Tests then Ideally even Pandu should be doing that but that is a different story Yup, I would wrap Bumrah and Pandya in cotton wool. Pandya gets lot of hate - probably due to his attitude and his knack of rubbing people the wrong way. But you can't deny the impact he has. India is a different team in LOIs with Pandya in. To me Bumrah and Pandya are the two most important LOI players and are irreplaceable. Save them till 2027 ODI WC. Manucrick and deepdynamo 2
Lord Posted June 22 Posted June 22 52 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: Yup, I would wrap Bumrah and Pandya in cotton wool. Pandya gets lot of hate - probably due to his attitude and his knack of rubbing people the wrong way. But you can't deny the impact he has. India is a different team in LOIs with Pandya in. To me Bumrah and Pandya are the two most important LOI players and are irreplaceable. Save them till 2027 ODI WC. Pandu won't get the hate if he plays SENA Tests
Ultimate_Game Posted June 22 Posted June 22 6 minutes ago, Lord said: Pandu won't get the hate if he plays SENA Tests He's not made to last Tests. He's like Shane Watson. And that's fine. Not his fault his body is fragile. He should continue in shorter formats and hopefully win us couple more ICC titles.
Lord Posted June 23 Posted June 23 He's not made to last Tests. He's like Shane Watson. And that's fine. Not his fault his body is fragile. He should continue in shorter formats and hopefully win us couple more ICC titles. Watson played much more Tests. It's about commitment. Just 2 SENA Tests per series and ICC tourneys is very much doable
Ultimate_Game Posted June 23 Posted June 23 6 minutes ago, Lord said: Watson played much more Tests. It's about commitment. Just 2 SENA Tests per series and ICC tourneys is very much doable And that's what the selectors and team management should be doing. As an example I would use Pandya for 2 Tests in SENA series. That's it. But unfortunately our team management and selection team is bone-headed and still goes with "play all the matches or you're not selected" approach. Look at Pandya being forced to play meaningless bilaterals in SL when likes of Kohli and Rohit could rest anytime they wanted. Pandya and Bumrah should be afforded that luxury, not the useless and under-achieving batters. Pandya opted out of Tests due to this bone-headed and inflexible attitude of BCCI and selection committee. Having Pandya in 2 Tests in Away series is a manageable workload and can be used for green-tops in SA, NZ, pink ball Tests etc. Gollum, deepdynamo and Lord 3
NameGoesHere Posted June 23 Posted June 23 Noooooooooooo. That’s like saving your three star Michelin rated chef to make samosas. He’ll probably do it better than anyone else, and we all like and eat samosas, but really guys, samosas? express bowling and deepdynamo 2
raki05 Posted June 23 Posted June 23 18 hours ago, deepdynamo said: I know Test cricket is the ultimate format but teams will increasingly prepare flat decks to ground Bumrah to dust. T20 WC at home next year is as big as ODI WC 2027. Without Bumrah, we are half the team in T20. Can't afford to miss that. If we would have solid bowlers to compliment and share the workload with Bumrah then it would have been fine in Test cricket. But thats not the case. This is Bumrah peak now ( 2025-27) and I rather have Bumrah win us couple of white ball trophies than toiling hard on flat pitches in Test cricket. I agree that is why i am asking to focus on important stuff ,for loi he should just play in wc and wt20 (as you insist) and for test aslo priority should be not to play entire 5 tests and just keep him ready for wtc final. deepdynamo and express bowling 2
Stan AF Posted June 23 Posted June 23 Hehehehe. As if Indian fans have any say on this matter. raki05 1
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