Terrorist attack in Bondi beach, Australia

[ravishingravi]

Where are the five eyes when you need them ?

[MechEng]

32 minutes ago, mishra said:

News is coming that these two AHoles also had possession of Indian passport and used that to travel recently. 
 

If true than they are not lone  self motivated Pakistani jihadi but 100% ISI/Pak Fauj recruits 

 

It's still not confirmed that those passports are counterfeit ones or not, since Akram surnames are not found in India. But r/india is already celebrating that no Pakistani is involved and sanghis will have no one to blame now.

 

If you want to see how fragmented India is, just visit r/india and r/unitedstatesofindia. Shameless.

[mishra]

25 minutes ago, MechEng said:

 

It's still not confirmed that those passports are counterfeit ones or not, since Akram surnames are not found in India. But r/india is already celebrating that no Pakistani is involved and sanghis will have no one to blame now.

 

If you want to see how fragmented India is, just visit r/india and r/unitedstatesofindia. Shameless.

Sorry confused. India has no concept of dual citizenship. 
So u can only own a OCI card not valid to travel any country other than India as soon as  u acquire citizenship of another country.

 

My point is simple. If they are also holding a Indian passport  then it can not happen without blessing of ISI/Pak Fauj.

[MechEng]

5 minutes ago, mishra said:

Sorry confused. India has no concept of dual citizenship. 
So u can only own a OCI card not valid to travel any country other than India as soon as  u acquire citizenship of another country.

 

My point is simple. If they are also holding a Indian passport  then it can not happen without blessing of ISI/Pak Fauj.

 

I meant a counterfeit passport, they're actually Pakistanis but came up with fake Indian passports to avoid suspicion. 

This I am speculating since  none of the Indian Muslims I know have Akram surnames who are Punjabi Rajputs.

[mishra]

24 minutes ago, MechEng said:

 

I meant a counterfeit passport, they're actually Pakistanis but came up with fake Indian passports to avoid suspicion. 

This I am speculating since  none of the Indian Muslims I know have Akram surnames who are Punjabi Rajputs.

Bhai, why fall for noise. The guy moved to Australia as student in 1998. Finds a Aussie girl, marries her in 2001, becomes citizen and has 3 or 4 kids with her, one of his son goes to Pakistan to study. Comes back and again gets associated with local Islamic org amd does further religious study.

 

One of Key question is how he acquired indian passport.

 

BTW another key question is why 6 guns. Does it means rest of his family was also part of plot but acquired cold feet when time came.  Whole family is involved. Not just father and son. On first look, family is not innocent.

Edited December 16, 2025 by mishra

[mishra]

Many Pakistani agent go to Bangladesh, infiltrate India as Bangladeshi, marry in India and stay in India. This marriage with infiltrated host country is SOP among Pakistani ISI agents.

[MechEng]

4 minutes ago, mishra said:

Many Pakistani agent go to Bangladesh, infiltrate India as Bangladeshi, marry in India and stay in India. This marriage with infiltrated host country is SOP among Pakistani ISI agents.

 

Anyways, if you're a fair skinned or Iranian/Slavic looking Indian, you'll be fine (nobody can guess you're from India), if you're a brown person - get ready for some fresh hate coming your way...

Edited December 16, 2025 by MechEng

[ravishingravi]

16 minutes ago, MechEng said:

 

Anyways, if you're a fair skinned or Iranian/Slavic looking Indian, you'll be fine (nobody can guess you're from India), if you're a brown person - get ready for some fresh hate coming your way...

 

There will be whitelash. Thats for certain. Things are out of hand.

[mishra]

On 12/14/2025 at 2:30 PM, coffee_rules said:

Real life hero

 

 

During Pahalgham, we also saw some real life heroes. Unfortunately no one knows their names

Adil Hussain Shah --> Lost his life trying to wrest the gun from terrorists

 

and these two werent sure if Terrorists are there are NOT 

Waheed Ahmad Wani

Sajjad Ahmad Bhat

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In nearly 20 years, Wani had weathered many challenges, but nothing remotely prepared him for the events of 22 April this year—the day terror struck the picturesque meadows of Baisaran hilltop. Twenty-five tourists and a fellow pony operator were killed in a brutal attack that shook the nation to its core.

At the time, the 39-year-old was in Ganishbal, three kilometres away, attending a condolence gathering for a relative. He remembers the moment clearly—2:36 p.m.—when his phone rang. On the line was a local policeman, his voice urgent: “Waheed sahab, do you know what’s happened in Baisaran?” A wave of dread set in. Wani stepped out, heart pounding, and dialled one contact after another, trying to piece together what was going on. But none of the calls went through.

The responsibility of leading an association that oversees all transport in the highland areas without road access—including Baisaran—suddenly felt immense. For Wani, it was as if the biggest test of his life had arrived. He didn’t hesitate. Determined to see the situation for himself, he set out towards the meadow, which could be reached from Ganishbal in about 30 minutes on foot.

But before he could head into the pine-covered woods, his brother-in-law, Sajjad Ahmad Bhat, stopped him. Pahalgam, usually full of sound and movement, had turned eerily silent. A thick unease hung in the air. Bhat, only 31, and weeks away from his own wedding, refused to let Wani head into danger alone. “Life and death are in Allah’s hands,” he told Wani. “If it is meant to happen, it can happen even at home. And if it’s not, even the worst won’t touch us.”

31-year-old Sajjad Ahmad Bhat refused to let Wani head to Baisaran alone.

As they climbed quickly toward the meadow, Wani and Bhat came across groups of terrified tourists running for cover into nearby homes and makeshift shelters. The sounds of gunfire still echoed in the hills, and panic was etched into every fleeing face and trembling voice. Meanwhile, Wani’s phone kept ringing—his daughter, a ninth-grade student, was pleading with him to return. “Abu, please wapis aajao (come back),” she said again and again. But Wani couldn’t. Something within him wouldn’t let him walk away.

By around 3:10 p.m., the two had entered the meadow, scaling a fence to get inside. At first glance, the clearing seemed eerily empty—except for vultures and crows circling above and picking at the ground, drawn to a terrible feast. A few steps later, the full weight of the tragedy hit them. Women were wailing over the bodies of their husbands and loved ones. Blood had soaked into the grass, staining the green earth red.

“Recite the Kalima,” Wani told Bhat quietly. “There is no going back from here.” The two were among the first to reach the site after the attack; police and rescue officials were on their way. “It was horrifying,” Bhat later tells us. “Wives and children were screaming, beating their chests in grief.”

In the panic and confusion, even Wani and Bhat were initially mistaken for attackers—until someone recognized Wani and reassured the crowd. “President sahab is here now. Nothing bad will happen to you,” Bhat announced, invoking Wani’s name as a sign of safety.

Hours after the attack, signs of chaos were all that remained at Baisaran hilltop.

 

According to Wani, the terrorists had fired with chilling precision, aiming at the heads of male tourists to ensure instant death. Based on the usual footfall, he estimates there were around 300 visitors at the meadow at the time of the attack. Of them, 26 lost their lives—including a local pony operator, Adil Hussain Shah, who was fired upon repeatedly while trying to wrest a gun away from the attackers in a desperate attempt to protect the tourists. “Three people tried to escape through a narrow water channel that opened just below the fence,” Wani recalls. “But they were gunned down near the pine trees, their bodies left where they fell.”

Wani immediately contacted the police and local authorities, and began sending voice notes and messages across his network, calling for urgent help. But in those early moments, the responsibility of rescue fell squarely on him, Bhat, and the one other pony-wallah present, Rayees Ahmad. Wani grabbed bottles of water and urged others to do the same. Together, they moved from one injured person to another, tending to the unconscious and inconsolable—most of them women since the men appeared to have been specifically targeted.“The women were pleading through their pain, saying they were still alive,” Bhat remembers. “But when we checked the bodies, we found no breath, no pulse.”

With the attackers still at large, imminent danger hung over their heads, so the immediate focus was to get the survivors to safety. Within minutes of Wani’s call, about 10 pony-wallahs and ATV operators had arrived. Without wasting time, they began lifting the injured on to horseback to carry them the five kilometres downhill for medical aid. “They couldn’t even stand, so we laid each across two horses,” Bhat says.

Stills from the viral video of Bhat carrying a young teen downhill to safety

Soon, they began running out of horses and stretchers, but a few survivors still needed urgent evacuation so they turned a makeshift cart into a stretcher for one critically injured tourist. Meanwhile, a 16-year-old boy—who had seen his father die before his eyes—was lying on the ground in shock, unable to breathe, gripped by trauma. Bhat lifted the boy on to his shoulders and began the 2.5-kilometre trek down the raw, stony path to reach the ambulance. Though the boy’s weight threatened to break his strength, Bhat didn’t stop until he had delivered him to safety.

Wani remained at the meadow even as a large contingent of security forces—the Army, CRPF, and local police—arrived. What followed was the grim task of identifying the dead, and then something even more harrowing: collecting scattered bodies and severed remains, wrapping them in shawls that had once been meant for sale on tourist carts.

 

https://www.readersdigest.in/true-stories/story-valley-of-courage-128014

[Texy]

[G_B_]

Bloomberg have editted headline. No indian passport used.

 

Both were aussies passport holders.

 

Seems like an isi hit job.

[mishra]

2 minutes ago, G_B_ said:

Bloomberg have editted headline. No indian passport used.

 

Both were aussies passport holders.

 

Seems like an isi hit job.

ISI is not that capable. Its Trumps blessings

[G_B_]

Just now, mishra said:

ISI is not that capable. Its Trumps blessings

 

But you see how the modus operandi is?

 

Bloomberg posts report that indian passport used. Philipines quickly says was not the case.  Bloomberg edits headline but does not appologise for producing blatently fake news.

 

Thousands of media outlets publish original report. With mostly Pakistani accounts parroting indian passport.

 

The reason i say isi is cause there was a pro Pakistani aussie influrncers who said they are indian.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[MechEng]

31 minutes ago, G_B_ said:

 Philipines quickly says was not the case.  Bloomberg edits headline but does not appologise for producing blatently fake news.

 

 

This is confirmed?

[mishra]

34 minutes ago, G_B_ said:

 

But you see how the modus operandi is?

 

Bloomberg posts report that indian passport used. Philipines quickly says was not the case.  Bloomberg edits headline but does not appologise for producing blatently fake news.

 

Thousands of media outlets publish original report. With mostly Pakistani accounts parroting indian passport.

 

The reason i say isi is cause there was a pro Pakistani aussie influrncers who said they are indian.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Since it’s western media which lent their credibility, And hence i draw conclusions as COA hit job. 

[G_B_]

7 minutes ago, MechEng said:

 

This is confirmed?

Yes

[Ranvir]

On 12/14/2025 at 3:26 PM, ravishingravi said:

 

Not surprising. Lebanese. 

Lebanese Muslims in Australia are the equivalent of Pakistanis in the UK. Involved in the same kind of crap like grooming gangs, crime etc.

[mishra]

1 hour ago, G_B_ said:

Bloomberg have editted headline. No indian passport used.

 

Both were aussies passport holders.

 

Seems like an isi hit job.

TOI is reporting he is from Hyderabad

[goose]

who cares if he was indian or pakistani? are we saying radical islam is non existent in india?>

[Ranvir]

21 minutes ago, goose said:

who cares if he was indian or pakistani? are we saying radical islam is non existent in india?>

Exactly. To me Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Indian, Sri Lankan, Maldivian Muslims are all similar.

 

It just would have been bad for the reputation for Indian Hindus and Sikhs abroad if this guy turned out to he Indian. He would have the Indian tag attached to him.