singhvivek141 Posted March 19 Posted March 19 Indian MIC should start selling AD weapons to GCC. Its clear that patriot or THAAD systems are incapable of defending them. Indian weapons are low cost and capable as proven against Pooks.
coffee_rules Posted March 19 Posted March 19 (edited) 6 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said: Kashmir is not recognised as a part of Pakistan. Who started asymmetrical warfare in the subcontinent? India ? Did India invade Pakistan first in any of the first four wars? That's not the right comparison. ISI has some justification albatta immoral, to get involved in Kashmir and Afghanistan. IRGC has no business in getting involved with the Gazan cause. It is a Sunni Arab versus Jews war. It would make sense if jordan or Egypt had played this proxy war in Lebanon or Gaza. But IRGC to sittingfar away and it isgetting involved in this conflict. IRGC is the deewana Abdullah in the.Begani Shaadi of the Middle Eastern conflict. IRGC he is also funding. Houthies in Yemen, just too needle Saudi, who have got nothing to do with Israel at all. IRGC is kind of the Lonewolf fighting the pack of wolves around it for supremacy. In comparison, ISI is like a Kuntri dog that is biting the innocent people on the street. Edited March 19 by coffee_rules Laaloo 1
ravishingravi Posted March 19 Posted March 19 21 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: ISI has some justification albatta immoral, to get involved in Kashmir and Afghanistan. IRGC has no business in getting involved with the Gazan cause. It is a Sunni Arab versus Jews war. It would make sense if jordan or Egypt had played this proxy war in Lebanon or Gaza. But IRGC to sittingfar away and it isgetting involved in this conflict. IRGC is the deewana Abdullah in the.Begani Shaadi of the Middle Eastern conflict. IRGC he is also funding. Houthies in Yemen, just too needle Saudi, who have got nothing to do with Israel at all. IRGC is kind of the Lonewolf fighting the pack of wolves around it for supremacy. In comparison, ISI is like a Kuntri dog that is biting the innocent people on the street. @Lone Wolf yeh dekho kya bol rahey hai aapkey barey mein. :) Anna, I have one view here. Maybe Israel is agent of US to control the middle east. And Iran was and is the only country trying to challenge US. Therefore proxy wars were inevitable. Plus there is Shia Sunni rivalry. Shias only possibility for survival in Islamic world is to push for leadership. Once they lose that we know what happens in Syria and Iraq. So, imo, Iran too has no choice. It was removing US appointee Shah. Lone Wolf and coffee_rules 2
coffee_rules Posted March 19 Posted March 19 4 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: @Lone Wolf yeh dekho kya bol rahey hai aapkey barey mein. :) Anna, I have one view here. Maybe Israel is agent of US to control the middle east. And Iran was and is the only country trying to challenge US. Therefore proxy wars were inevitable. Plus there is Shia Sunni rivalry. Shias only possibility for survival in Islamic world is to push for leadership. Once they lose that we know what happens in Syria and Iraq. So, imo, Iran too has no choice. It was removing US appointee Shah. I know in this hamam all are bloody nanga . I don’t see IRGC as a noble organization, it is just a power subduing its own people as well. Iranians are stuck between radical Shia Mullas a de Pru West regime.. Israel has to pick a middle ground in its existential war with Adams. It is taking the whole world with its policies. It has got a bitch in US White House who will do anything it pushes. Nobody in their same mind will support Israel in this war escalation against Iran. It has to work a limited war strategy with Iran.. If my life savings are taking a 3 to 4 year slump because of this escalation, fk Israel as well. ravishingravi 1
Lone Wolf Posted March 19 Posted March 19 1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said: Indian MIC should start selling AD weapons to GCC. Its clear that patriot or THAAD systems are incapable of defending them. Indian weapons are low cost and capable as proven against Pooks. Pooks have unguided 90's tech of missiles and bunch of unguided rockets that's literally third rate. No Air defence can offer full proof protection against Iranian cruise and Especially Hypersonic missiles. THAAD and Patriot Arrow are still the Benchmark when it comes to AD interceptors but layered Air defense system matters more.. They have kicked @ss in Ukraine for a reason Israel have similar systems but with more layers to it but their only issue is they are just too smaller and don't have any strategic depth and hence prone to saturation attacks which will eventually drain the interceptors.
rkt.india Posted March 19 Posted March 19 Dump still don't understand war does nothing good for anyone.
Lone Wolf Posted March 19 Posted March 19 This is historic first ever hit on a F35 in wartime. US confirms emergency landing in KSA Bluntman, ravishingravi and mishra 3
R!TTER Posted March 19 Posted March 19 3 hours ago, ravishingravi said: Maybe Israel is agent of US to control the middle east. And Iran was and is the only country trying to challenge US. Therefore proxy wars were inevitable. Plus there is Shia Sunni rivalry. Shias only possibility for survival in Islamic world is to push for leadership. Once they lose that we know what happens in Syria and Iraq. So, imo, Iran too has no choice. It was removing US appointee Shah. Nope, the latest roundabout(?) thinking I've seen in many places is that Israel wants to weaken all the major gulf states & US to practically be the only hegemon in the Middle East! That makes more sense to me given that unless every Trump cabinet member has sh!t for brains they should be able to see that US' position globally and in West Asia will deteriorate dramatically after this war - basically only Israel can "win" it although everyone (involved) would lose something or the other!
coffee_rules Posted March 19 Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said: This is historic first ever hit on a F35 in wartime. US confirms emergency landing in KSA A lot of this footage of Iran, striking Tel Aviv or this one could be AI generated, I would hold on thevveracity of this video. At least from neutral sources that Tomahawk hit on an Iranian girls school seems to be on US, very unfortunate. If it was deliberate, it is a war crime and Israel and US are responsible for it.
mishra Posted March 19 Posted March 19 2 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: This is historic first ever hit on a F35 in wartime. US confirms emergency landing in KSA You hit first one , means u can figure out how to hit more
IndianRenegade Posted March 19 Posted March 19 7 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: Indian MIC should start selling AD weapons to GCC. Its clear that patriot or THAAD systems are incapable of defending them. Indian weapons are low cost and capable as proven against Pooks. Do we have the capacity to meet demand?
mishra Posted March 19 Posted March 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, IndianRenegade said: Do we have the capacity to meet demand? We are happy with ME nations relationship and don’t want to antagonise one to make someone happy. UAE is only exception to that. We should be ready to bear some geopolitical cost , to support IAE Edited March 19 by mishra
bsriharsha Posted March 20 Posted March 20 13 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: Indian MIC should start selling AD weapons to GCC. Its clear that patriot or THAAD systems are incapable of defending them. Indian weapons are low cost and capable as proven against Pooks. More than anything, it was the L70's (Bofors) which saved us against Pakistani drones. The main point of war costs goes for a toss when you use patriots to intercept cheap shahed drones. India's use of Bofors was as much a key to victory (if not more than the use of Akash and s400). And the Bofors were heavily modified too. Part of the reason that Pakistan went begging for a ceasefire was that they knew that nothing they fire on India would hurt India and anything India would fire back would be carnage on them because their air defenses were shot , their radar gone G_B_ 1
singhvivek141 Posted March 20 Posted March 20 5 hours ago, IndianRenegade said: Do we have the capacity to meet demand? Yeah, We have supplied to Armenia our AD. Discussions are going on to supply Pinaka to France. Brahmos is already given to Phillipines, Indonesia, Armenia.
singhvivek141 Posted March 20 Posted March 20 24 minutes ago, bsriharsha said: More than anything, it was the L70's (Bofors) which saved us against Pakistani drones. The main point of war costs goes for a toss when you use patriots to intercept cheap shahed drones. India's use of Bofors was as much a key to victory (if not more than the use of Akash and s400). And the Bofors were heavily modified too. Part of the reason that Pakistan went begging for a ceasefire was that they knew that nothing they fire on India would hurt India and anything India would fire back would be carnage on them because their air defenses were shot , their radar gone Actually its "Akashteer" system. A comprehensive software responsible for analysing the threat detection, its potential impact and the target where its going to hit. Based on that it shifted the accountability to S400, Akash or Shilka/L70 guns. Akash AD also took out great % of drones and missile systems thrown out by Pooks, S400 was mostly targeted on Ballistic missiles, AWACS & Pooki jets. L70 & Shilka guns were stationed at airbases and high value infra against swarm of drones. bsriharsha 1
bsriharsha Posted March 20 Posted March 20 15 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: Actually its "Akashteer" system. A comprehensive software responsible for analysing the threat detection, its potential impact and the target where its going to hit. Based on that it shifted the accountability to S400, Akash or Shilka/L70 guns. Akash AD also took out great % of drones and missile systems thrown out by Pooks, S400 was mostly targeted on Ballistic missiles, AWACS & Pooki jets. L70 & Shilka guns were stationed at airbases and high value infra against swarm of drones. Yes. Have to mention the integrated system too. The estimate is that Pakistan burned through 1.5 billion USD over the three days over their campaign (drones/aircraft etc). And the large part of that has to do with the L70's taking down those swarms of drones leaving the akash / s400 for the bigger drones , missiles singhvivek141 1
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