mishra Posted March 13 Posted March 13 (edited) Think solution is two state. Israel needs to figure out how to live in Middle East and Middle East needs to figure out how to live with Israel. Neither is possible as long as concept of Kafir and Muslim victimization exist. So it starts with , Muslims(population) themselves to be more honest and judicious with non Muslims. I have personal experience where everyone ganged up to support a Muslim collegue who was at wrong, simply because they were all Muslims as soon as one Muslim employee who was impartial left the company. Hence I am not going to change my opinion that Muslims gang up and drive non Muslims out, be it from the neighbourhood or at workplace or business. They are a community among whom 80% will always support and side Muslims no matter how unfair that Muslim is as long as person on recieving end is non Muslim. Edited March 13 by mishra Laaloo, Alam_dar and singhvivek141 1 2
BacktoCricaddict Posted March 13 Posted March 13 33 minutes ago, Prakat said: an international tribunal to convict him for crimes against humanity. Is this even a thing? And do despots even care? In my experience, international laws are unenforceable; international law agencies have no teeth.
Prakat Posted March 13 Author Posted March 13 19 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Is this even a thing? And do despots even care? In my experience, international laws are unenforceable; international law agencies have no teeth. Yes, these institutions have been toothless in recent times. However, an extreme development like an Nuclear attack by Israel will most likely bring a lot of weight into the room, not least of which will be the Gulf states.
BacktoCricaddict Posted March 13 Posted March 13 10 minutes ago, Prakat said: Yes, these institutions have been toothless in recent times. However, an extreme development like an Nuclear attack by Israel will most likely bring a lot of weight into the room, not least of which will be the Gulf states. One can only hope that it doesn't come to that, and better sense prevails sooner. Prakat 1
Prakat Posted March 13 Author Posted March 13 5 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: One can only hope that it doesn't come to that, and better sense prevails sooner. Absolutely. Assessing risk is after all being aware that more things can happen than will happen. BacktoCricaddict 1
coffee_rules Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Iran is Trump’s Iraq. He’s buying time for midterm elections using this word. Nobody here approved this war except his voter base. Hence he is going around declaring victory already. BacktoCricaddict 1
mishra Posted March 13 Posted March 13 (edited) 16 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Iran is Trump’s Iraq. He’s buying time for midterm elections using this word. Nobody here approved this war except his voter base. Hence he is going around declaring victory already. Never underestimate power of human brain to find a solution to a problem. I wont be surprised if Strait of Hormuz remains blocked for decades by Iranians while Israelis keep bombing Iranian assets for decades while rest of world will figure out how to bypass Iranian created problem. How? Saudi Arabia, Qatar UAE Baharain Kuwait can all come to common understanding to develop various Ports in Oman. In that scenario, Iran is Royally Fked. How much time it will take to create Oman alternative? May be less than a Year Edited March 13 by mishra
coffee_rules Posted March 13 Posted March 13 2 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: One can only hope that it doesn't come to that, and better sense prevails sooner. Nobody will drop a nuclear bomb anymore after 1945 it has never been done. It is only used as a deterrent, even Bibi will be scared of using it.
rkt.india Posted March 13 Posted March 13 2 hours ago, mishra said: Never underestimate power of human brain to find a solution to a problem. I wont be surprised if Strait of Hormuz remains blocked for decades by Iranians while Israelis keep bombing Iranian assets for decades while rest of world will figure out how to bypass Iranian created problem. How? Saudi Arabia, Qatar UAE Baharain Kuwait can all come to common understanding to develop various Ports in Oman. In that scenario, Iran is Royally Fked. How much time it will take to create Oman alternative? May be less than a Year Iran can attack Oman too.
BacktoCricaddict Posted March 13 Posted March 13 3 hours ago, mishra said: Never underestimate power of human brain to find a solution to a problem. And never underestimate the power of the human brain to create problems that didn't exist before. MechEng 1
mishra Posted March 13 Posted March 13 6 hours ago, rkt.india said: Iran can attack Oman too. Its not possible for Iran to place naval blockade on Oman
IndianRenegade Posted March 14 Posted March 14 6 hours ago, Stan AF said: Looks like US lost a flying fuel super tanker in Iraq Lost close to 5… rofl
rkt.india Posted March 14 Posted March 14 6 hours ago, mishra said: Its not possible for Iran to place naval blockade on Oman But can destroy the port and oil facilities.
mishra Posted March 14 Posted March 14 3 hours ago, rkt.india said: But can destroy the port and oil facilities. This regime can not even do that. It can only damage soft targets like unguarded ship, An aeroplane or Radar or civilian building . It has lost capability to damage anything which cant be damaged by a drone. For example most attacks on Israel is happening from Hezbollah not Iran. Iran has not been able to hit any ship on Ports because they are either defended or early warning is there.
singhvivek141 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 22 hours ago, mishra said: Think solution is two state. Israel needs to figure out how to live in Middle East and Middle East needs to figure out how to live with Israel. Neither is possible as long as concept of Kafir and Muslim victimization exist. So it starts with , Muslims(population) themselves to be more honest and judicious with non Muslims. I have personal experience where everyone ganged up to support a Muslim collegue who was at wrong, simply because they were all Muslims as soon as one Muslim employee who was impartial left the company. Hence I am not going to change my opinion that Muslims gang up and drive non Muslims out, be it from the neighbourhood or at workplace or business. They are a community among whom 80% will always support and side Muslims no matter how unfair that Muslim is as long as person on recieving end is non Muslim. The problem lies in this statement itself. Even if Israel agrees to two state solution, the muslim countries of West Asia will never do that. They'll take it as a defeat of islam in the hands of yahoods as the land once governed by muslims is now under someone else's control. This is the same issue you see in India as well. Will islam let go of the superiority complex, not unless all the madarsa's are shut down, maulana's are hanged and books are banned. Else, you're just treating the symptoms and not the root cause. It's not a battle of logic, it's a battle of ego. Israel has faced survival attempts since the day of inception. It has become strong now and has full backing of US, but the moment US remove it's support, the same collective attack on Israel will resume.
bsriharsha Posted March 14 Posted March 14 On 3/12/2026 at 9:54 PM, Mariyam said: Can Iran do a regime change in Israel? Doubt it. They are a weak cleft nation. As soon as this conflict is over, I think the Iranians will over throw what is left of the Islamic Republic. They won’t do that when a war is on, that would be tantamount to treason. Netanyahu was on very shaky ground before the Hamas attack gave him a lifeline.
bsriharsha Posted March 14 Posted March 14 45 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: The problem lies in this statement itself. Even if Israel agrees to two state solution, the muslim countries of West Asia will never do that. They'll take it as a defeat of islam in the hands of yahoods as the land once governed by muslims is now under someone else's control. This is the same issue you see in India as well. Will islam let go of the superiority complex, not unless all the madarsa's are shut down, maulana's are hanged and books are banned. Else, you're just treating the symptoms and not the root cause. It's not a battle of logic, it's a battle of ego. Israel has faced survival attempts since the day of inception. It has become strong now and has full backing of US, but the moment US remove it's support, the same collective attack on Israel will resume. Most of the Sunni countries bordering Israel want nothing to do with the Palestinian refugees. They don't particularly care whether there is a Palestinian state. They just don't want those refugees. Palestinians did self goals by attempting coups against Jordan, allying with islamic terrorist outfits etc etc. The whole middle East debacle is about two sides competing to see who does the most misteps.
bsriharsha Posted March 14 Posted March 14 23 hours ago, mishra said: Think solution is two state. Israel needs to figure out how to live in Middle East and Middle East needs to figure out how to live with Israel. Neither is possible as long as concept of Kafir and Muslim victimization exist. So it starts with , Muslims(population) themselves to be more honest and judicious with non Muslims. I have personal experience where everyone ganged up to support a Muslim collegue who was at wrong, simply because they were all Muslims as soon as one Muslim employee who was impartial left the company. Hence I am not going to change my opinion that Muslims gang up and drive non Muslims out, be it from the neighbourhood or at workplace or business. They are a community among whom 80% will always support and side Muslims no matter how unfair that Muslim is as long as person on recieving end is non Muslim. Bhai how many Hindus let out their apartments to muslim occupants? The problem goes both sides.
bsriharsha Posted March 14 Posted March 14 On 3/12/2026 at 4:24 PM, Prakat said: Iran allows two SCI tankers from Saudi safe passage to India while it continues to take down any vessels attempting to pass even with warship escorts that are headed to countries that support the US war effort. Gratitude for India hosting Iranian navy ships and men. Prakat 1
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