Ultimate_Game Posted March 31 Posted March 31 Absolutely useless in LOIs. GT is gonna struggle with so many misfits starting with captain Gill, Sai, Sundar and Siraj. Even the bowling lineup is not that good when Rabada, who struggles in T20s is their best bowler with an over the hill Rashid. GT is gonna struggle as a prime Miller was propping them up in the past but since he lost form and moved on, they've struggled. Manucrick and cowboysfan 2
Vk1 Posted March 31 Posted March 31 May be ODIs as you have lots and lots of time.. definitely not T20s Manucrick and express bowling 2
vvvslaxman Posted March 31 Posted March 31 They should have played Sai kishore and played Holder in place of Rabada Manucrick and Ultimate_Game 2
vvvslaxman Posted March 31 Posted March 31 40 minutes ago, Vk1 said: May be ODIs as you have lots and lots of time.. definitely not T20s Not good there as well. His bowling has tremendously regressed. tapandrun, Vk1 and Ultimate_Game 3
zen Posted March 31 Posted March 31 In IPL, very talented Indian player has a place. These players are NOT competing for a place in a squad of 15 but for a slot among 170 or more Indian players across 10 teams.
cricspirit Posted March 31 Posted March 31 1 hour ago, Vk1 said: May be ODIs as you have lots and lots of time.. definitely not T20s No, Axar still better and we can only play one of them. Ultimate_Game and Vk1 2
cricspirit Posted March 31 Posted March 31 Sundar is a test player. That is all. He may work out once in a while but dont see him doing well overall in T20 Or ODI. On top of it, his fielding is average, and he just doesnt have any energy about him. bowl_out, crictime, tapandrun and 2 others 5
Ultimate_Game Posted March 31 Author Posted March 31 3 hours ago, zen said: In IPL, very talented Indian player has a place. These players are NOT competing for a place in a squad of 15 but for a slot among 170 or more Indian players across 10 teams. Even then need to find someone better. I would go with someone like Sai Kishore who at least is a much better bowler, can bowl in PP and is not that much of a drop-off in batting. Sundar is a poor man's Jadeja and is good only for Tests. He shouldn't be in shorter formats.
tapandrun Posted March 31 Posted March 31 (edited) There are question on his place in an IPL team and he was in Ind t20i wc side. Was selected in wc side based on 1 innings. Edited March 31 by tapandrun Ultimate_Game 1
Ultimate_Game Posted March 31 Author Posted March 31 1 hour ago, tapandrun said: There are question on his place in an IPL team and he was in Ind t20i wc side. Was selected in wc side based on 1 innings. How he made it to the Indian team and even likes of Shahbaz Ahmed made an appearance just before the WC shocks me. I would go for someone like Krunal Pandya over Sundar any day. Parag is a much better option and even Vipraj has much more potential. Sundar is like Jadeja and he struggles to go beyond SR of 110-120. He should not be in IPL unless he plays as a specialist bowler and bats at 9. But his bowling has fallen off over the last few years and he isn't a specialist bowler so shouldn't be in a T20 or ODI side.
zen Posted March 31 Posted March 31 1 hour ago, Ultimate_Game said: Even then need to find someone better. I would go with someone like Sai Kishore who at least is a much better bowler, can bowl in PP and is not that much of a drop-off in batting. Sundar is a poor man's Jadeja and is good only for Tests. He shouldn't be in shorter formats. Better depends on current form, nothing else. Sundar has bowled and batted reasonably well on many occasions in the past. There is no X v Y dynamics. Sai K can be played in place of some other player as well like SRK if Sundar is batting relatively better, and so on. Which is why extreme PoVs do not make much sense. There are a lot of option, Sundar is one too. Forever Indian 1
tapandrun Posted March 31 Posted March 31 13 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: How he made it to the Indian team and even likes of Shahbaz Ahmed made an appearance just before the WC shocks me. I would go for someone like Krunal Pandya over Sundar any day. Parag is a much better option and even Vipraj has much more potential. Sundar is like Jadeja and he struggles to go beyond SR of 110-120. He should not be in IPL unless he plays as a specialist bowler and bats at 9. But his bowling has fallen off over the last few years and he isn't a specialist bowler so shouldn't be in a T20 or ODI side. If some1 understands Ind cricketing system then answer is v.simple. No batter wants to bowl may be tm and captain does not want to take that risk or may be players do nt want to risk a loss on them. In selection time conversation is simple -- what about off-spinner , here are few names tm and captain do you want to pick an off-spinner?? every1 is playing safe here selectors saying we offer them choices and its up to them to pick it or not, if tm and captain does not pick, blame goes to them and if selectors does not offer a choice blame go to them so both parties plays safe and slect an off-spinner based on some random ipl game or some game in bi-lateral. Same reason Ashwin kept making to Wc sides at last moment. There were multiple better options as already mentioned -- Parag, Kunal, Shebaz etc... Ultimate_Game 1
Nikhil_cric Posted April 1 Posted April 1 Guy looks he's going to be worse than Fraudeja in white ball cricket. Absolutely hate these fraud bowling allrounders.
crictime Posted April 1 Posted April 1 10 hours ago, cricspirit said: Sundar is a test player. That is all. He may work out once in a while but dont see him doing well overall in T20 Or ODI. On top of it, his fielding is average, and he just doesnt have any energy about him. His fileding is below average. Ultimate_Game 1
Ultimate_Game Posted April 1 Author Posted April 1 48 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said: Guy looks he's going to be worse than Fraudeja in white ball cricket. Absolutely hate these fraud bowling allrounders. Much worse than Jadeja. Jadeja is a much better bowler and one of the best fielders. Sundar is a slightly better bat but much worse with the ball and even a poorer fielder & catcher. Jadeja himself wasn't a good fit for LOIs and Sundar who's much inferior to Jadeja should not even get into the squad. Nikhil_cric 1
Ultimate_Game Posted April 1 Author Posted April 1 23 minutes ago, crictime said: His fileding is below average. His fielding is pathetic and catching even worse. Absolutely useless on the field. Rinku can run 3 laps of the field while Sundar would still be trying to complete the first one. crictime 1
singhvivek141 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 He need to play lot ot FC and start working as a replacement for Ashwin. He is mentally strong, but T20s require brute strength as well which he dont have. Manucrick and Forever Indian 2
Manucrick Posted April 1 Posted April 1 13 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: They should have played Sai kishore and played Holder in place of Rabada This is a good plan
nevada Posted April 1 Posted April 1 He has a place if he can bowl decently in the powerplay and chip in with a 25-30 run cameo at 150+ SR while batting.
Vk1 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 16 hours ago, cricspirit said: No, Axar still better and we can only play one of them. agree but Axar's backup should not be jadeja or shabaz.. Sundar is slightly better them
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