Pakistan tour of England 2026 | 3 Tests | 19th, 27th August, 9th September| 3:30 pm IST | Headingley, Lords, Edgbaston | SonyLiv

[tapandrun]

Pak team is gathering criticism in eng. frm everyone ???? Not sure why that is ? 

 

Experts does not go after touring side anymore now. 

 

Is this due to lack for boradcaster's interest in pak cricket right now ??? Something esle.

 

Eng toured pak last season played 2 tests on same pitch with heater and industrial fan being used. No one said anything ....

 

Does not look like this anything to do with cricket  

[AKane]

5 hours ago, deathmonger said:

This is Pakistan's future until they mend ties with India. It's all interconnected.

 

India is the sun around which the entire cricketing world revolves. And that sun is getting brighter day by day.

 

Without the sun, there is no day, just eternal night.

 

From Agatha Christie's Endless Night -

 

Poem author unknown

 

Every night and every morn

some to misery are born.

Every morn and every night

some are born to sweet delight.

Some are born to sweet delight

some are born to endless night

 

 

Edited August 21 by AKane

[tapandrun]

9 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Picking 4 frontline pacers is a very good strategy on these pitches. 

 

Allows them to bowl with full pace and intensity. 

 

Pak batters are particularly not that good vs high pace and bounce has always been a problem to them so its its easy to make this make such decision.

 

 

 

[New guy]

13 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Pak team is gathering criticism in eng. frm everyone ???? Not sure why that is ? 

 

Experts does not go after touring side anymore now. 

 

Is this due to lack for boradcaster's interest in pak cricket right now ??? Something esle.

 

Eng toured pak last season played 2 tests on same pitch with heater and industrial fan being used. No one said anything ....

 

Does not look like this anything to do with cricket  

Low quality of cricket, not even lasting 3 days. 

[cowboysfan]

poor tactics against Lyon,bowl at the stumps.

[Forward Defence]

W/L Ratio

In the next few matches we should be able to go ahead of Pakistan in this metric. The home losses to SA and NZ delayed this a tad.

[bsriharsha]

14 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Pak team is gathering criticism in eng. frm everyone ???? Not sure why that is ? 

 

Experts does not go after touring side anymore now. 

 

Is this due to lack for boradcaster's interest in pak cricket right now ??? Something esle.

 

Eng toured pak last season played 2 tests on same pitch with heater and industrial fan being used. No one said anything ....

 

Does not look like this anything to do with cricket  

Pakistan are ****. And the **** definitely gets to the fire. 

 

All those years of shielding chuckers, age fudgers and matchfixers surely caught up to them. 

 

Kaha hai talent Pakistan mein , their so called best spinner isn't being picked in tests because pooks are afraid he's going to get called. 

 

And then there's the whole ball tampering **** as well. 

[deathmonger]

On 8/21/2026 at 10:56 PM, Lone Wolf said:

Until Saudis and Americans prop their economy up, the downfall will continue.  Ties can never mend as Pak is a geopolitical tool for bigger powers and it was created for that reason.

 

CWG game performance is getting worse with each edition.  That's a good idea that there is not a lot going on at grassroots and they don't have resources to divert anymore.

No one can "prop" an economy up.

 

For an economy to rise, they need investment and even Saudis/Americans are not dumb enough to invest in that black hole rife with illiteracy and insurgency.

 

They will do minimum investment to get their loyalty and that's it.

 

American and Saudi companies are investing big time across the border in India because that way, you will see profits and returns.

 

Ties can mend when India reaches USA/China tier and Pakistan swaps their Amriki/Chini bosses for Hindustani ones. Ofc, older gen who sees India as a "rival" will never agree but younger gen z who have seen nothing but destruction at the hands of India in all fields will be more amenable.

[bsriharsha]

1 hour ago, deathmonger said:

Ties can mend when India reaches USA/China tier and Pakistan swaps their Amriki/Chini bosses for Hindustani ones. Ofc, older gen who sees India as a "rival" will never agree but younger gen z who have seen nothing but destruction at the hands of India in all fields will be more amenable.

Won't happen. The army has power in Pakistan and the Pakistani people are it's way to earn money. The supposed threat that India presents to them is the reason for them and their position in Pakistan's hierarchy. 

[Lone Wolf]

1 hour ago, deathmonger said:

Ties can mend when India reaches USA/China tier and Pakistan swaps their Amriki/Chini bosses for Hindustani ones. Ofc, older gen who sees India as a "rival" will never agree

This would have happened if power was actually in their hands... Pakistan has been sold out completely to Americans Saudis and Chinese spheres of influence style.  The military is totally in the control of US & CIA.

 

As far as India's rise goes they have been largely successful to delay our industrialisation phase for as long as they can and the bigger ploy is to stagnate our rise like they did with Japan.

Pooks are nothing but a Suicide bomber attached to us since Independence.  Brits created the concept and US has since then continued it.   China too plays along as it suits them as well.

 

As Jaishankar said couple of days ago India missed its industrialisation bus and now its very hard for us to get back on track ourselves.   India will likely grow old before it becomes richer.

 

Pak will get worse and their upcoming population explosion upto 2050's -60's will make things worse for rest of the subcontinent.  

Edited August 23 by Lone Wolf

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said:

This would have happened if power was actually in their hands... Pakistan has been sold out completely to Americans Saudis and Chinese spheres of influence style.  The military is totally in the control of US & CIA.

 

As far as India's rise goes they have been largely successful to delay our industrialisation phase for as long as they can and the bigger ploy is to stagnate our rise like they did with Japan.

Pooks are nothing but a Suicide bomber attached to us since Independence.  Brits created the concept and US has since then continued it.   China too plays along as it suits them as well.

 

As Jaishankar said couple of days ago India missed its industrialisation bus and now its very hard for us to get back on track ourselves.   India will likely grow old before it becomes richer.

 

Pak will get worse and their upcoming population explosion upto 2050's -60's will make things worse for rest of the subcontinent.  

S. Jaishankar did not state/mean that India cannot industrialize.His actual message is the exact opposite,as he consistently argues that robust domestic manufacturing is an absolute necessity for Indias economic future and national security.The misinterpretation of his historical analysis,he openly acknowledged that India made serious policy errors by missing out on key decades of industrial growth from the 60s onward and relying too heavily on the services sector.Rather than declaring defeat, Jaishankar uses historical context to argue that India must aggressively build deep domestic supply chains and expand its manufacturing base now through initiatives like Make in India.He has infact warned that relying on foreign imports instead of building local capacity is economic suicide,making it clear that his goal is to push India toward full industrialization rather than write it off

Edited August 23 by Suhaan

[Lone Wolf]

1 hour ago, Suhaan said:

S. Jaishankar did not state/mean that India cannot industrialize.His actual message is the exact opposite,as he consistently argues that robust domestic manufacturing is an absolute necessity for Indias economic future and national security.The misinterpretation of his historical analysis,he openly acknowledged that India made serious policy errors by missing out on key decades of industrial growth from the 60s onward and relying too heavily on the services sector.Rather than declaring defeat, Jaishankar uses historical context to argue that India must aggressively build deep domestic supply chains and expand its manufacturing base now through initiatives like Make in India.He has infact warned that relying on foreign imports instead of building local capacity is economic suicide,making it clear that his goal is to push India toward full industrialization rather than write it off

Problem is also India's industrial elites vehemently oppose industrialisation.  

India is still pretty much a socialist state. 

We are still doing IT production support and mainataince for American companies while not a single product has come out of India.

Basically putting all our eggs in IT basket sealed our fate in the 90's, they wanted a shortcut and we are left in a never ending loop and financial elites still hold the power as well as enormous bureaucracy which is unaccountable.

 

China had to let go all of that in 1978 to kick on towards that phase.  India is too late to do anything about it anymore.

No R&D push by private sector is clear indication that they only look at rate of return while ignoring long term productivity.

 

[New guy]

21 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Problem is also India's industrial elites vehemently oppose industrialisation.  

India is still pretty much a socialist state. 

We are still doing IT production support and mainataince for American companies while not a single product has come out of India.

Basically putting all our eggs in IT basket sealed our fate in the 90's, they wanted a shortcut and we are left in a never ending loop and financial elites still hold the power as well as enormous bureaucracy which is unaccountable.

 

China had to let go all of that in 1978 to kick on towards that phase.  India is too late to do anything about it anymore.

No R&D push by private sector is clear indication that they only look at rate of return while ignoring long term productivity.

 

What are our billionaires doing? 

[Lone Wolf]

32 minutes ago, New guy said:

What are our billionaires doing? 

Busy with mergers and acquisitions rather than investing in innovation.

Perhaps only major economy where private entities don't invest anything in R&D.

 

 

[bsriharsha]

And also reminds me , we got ojha out of playing cricket when it was clear that his action had deteriorated to the point that he was marginally over 15 degrees. 

 

At the same time , Pakistanis were championing for chucks like Ajmal and Hafeez. 

 

How many more wickets would Harbhajan have taken if he hadn't had to rework his action when the likes of the Pakistani chucked on to undeserved wickets. 

[bsriharsha]

And Ajmal was caught chucking at 42 degrees. 

 

Same goes with Murali btw too. 

 

It's not fair that batsmen have had their careers taken a hit , better rule following bowlers haven't gotten a chance because PCB were greedy enough and ready enough to play the victim card.

[New guy]

3 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Busy with mergers and acquisitions rather than investing in innovation.

Perhaps only major economy where private entities don't invest anything in R&D.

 

 

They dont realize the kind of power R&D gives to businesses and countries. Musk made his entire empire on it.

Edited August 23 by New guy

[Nikhil_cric]

5 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Problem is also India's industrial elites vehemently oppose industrialisation.  

India is still pretty much a socialist state. 

We are still doing IT production support and mainataince for American companies while not a single product has come out of India.

Basically putting all our eggs in IT basket sealed our fate in the 90's, they wanted a shortcut and we are left in a never ending loop and financial elites still hold the power as well as enormous bureaucracy which is unaccountable.

 

China had to let go all of that in 1978 to kick on towards that phase.  India is too late to do anything about it anymore.

No R&D push by private sector is clear indication that they only look at rate of return while ignoring long term productivity.

 

This times a 100. You need patient industrial capital to build domestic manufacturing capacity and supply chains.  Our elites are selfish c**ts.  No 2 ways about it.   Always looking to extract natural resources rather than build something useful. 

Edited August 23 by Nikhil_cric

[Austin 3:!6]

Lords test starts today. However, there is a forecast of rain all 4 days.

 

Its overcast and raining now in London

[rageaddict]

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