Thoughts on Saransh in for Kuldeep

[Sooda]

It feels unfair on a Kuldeep who is a rhythm and confidence bowler. Needs long spells and should I feel play this test. 

 

Even if Kuldeep was poor in the first test and only had himself to blame 

 

I am happy for Saransh and this reward for his domestic exploits such as they are, hope he has a great test and career for India. I did feel as a specialist offie he should be given a run , I even think he may be a better bowler than Washington 

 

But 

 

Saransh had a poor outing in warm up match and was okay, not great for the A team... I don't think he should be playing instead of Kuldeep 

Edited August 23 by Sooda

[ungboysj]

3 left arm spinner is too much , need a off spinner 

Suthar has replaced kuldeep not saransh

Other than warne there have not been many effective wrist spinner in test cricket and not a single chinaman has done well in test cricket history

 

 

[tweaker]

Kuldeep Yadav misses out due to an infection.

 

Kuldeep has not been dropped,he has been niggled out.

[Sooda]

41 minutes ago, tweaker said:

Kuldeep Yadav misses out due to an infection.

 

Kuldeep has not been dropped,he has been niggled out.

 

Ah okay thanks!

[Lone Wolf]

Disagree OP... Test match vicories are hard to come by especially for a side in Transition.

 

Trying to give confidence doesn't supports that concept... Kuldeep was given chances.  If he was bowling well then he should have been backed... But bowling flat rubbish in Galle was infuriating.  

Gill was helpless almost.

 

If India has to push for more wins tough calls are the way to go.

 

Jain deserves a look in before BGT early next year 

Australia will arrive with many more lefties of their own

[tweaker]

2 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Test match vicories are hard to come by especially for a side in Transition.

 

Trying to give confidence doesn't supports that concept...

 

Agree 

 

Paddikal, Suthar are examples of that ,both performed when given an opportunity.

 

Ideally Gurnoor, Sarfaraz should have played this test series.

 

It's good to introduce quality youngsters so that no one takes their places for granted 

[Lord]

GG playing a fake AR over specialist. 

[Lord]

1 hour ago, tweaker said:

Kuldeep Yadav misses out due to an infection.

 

Kuldeep has not been dropped,he has been niggled out.

Dr. Gambhir diagnosed him with that infection 

[rkt.india]

10 minutes ago, Lord said:

GG playing a fake AR over specialist. 

Jain is a specialist bowler.

[Lord]

51 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Jain is a specialist bowler.

He can bat. Has 2 FC tons

[express bowling]

9 minutes ago, Lord said:

He can bat. Has 2 FC tons

 

 

Kapil has 8 test centuries, Ashwin has 6.

 

Not specialist bowlers ?

 

 

[Lord]

12 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Kapil has 8 test centuries, Ashwin has 6.

 

Not specialist bowlers ?

 

 

No they are clearly allrounders

[express bowling]

1 minute ago, Lord said:

No they are clearly allrounders

 

An all-rounder can be a specialist bowler too.

 

"Specialist" means he specializes in that vocation / area.

 

An added skill does not change that. 

 

What you probably mean is an exclusive bowler.

[Lord]

5 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

An all-rounder can be a specialist bowler too.

 

"Specialist" means he specializes in that vocation / area.

 

An added skill does not change that. 

 

What you probably mean is an exclusive bowler.

Specialist bowler means someone who’s playing for his bowling mostly 

 

Added skill makes him an AR. Even Shardul isn’t a specialist for Indian team selection because he won’t get in just for his bowling 

 

Its an accepted definition. There is nothing like exclusive bowler.

 

 

[Lone Wolf]

2 hours ago, Lord said:

GG playing a fake AR over specialist. 

Jain's primary job is as an off spinner.

 

We are in desperate search of one as glassman Sundar isn't reliable in India.

 

Jain is in the squad so makes sense to give him a chance.

 

[bsriharsha]

Useful short fix. 

 

Hopefully he clicks on and plays a part till the home BG trophy matches because we definitely cannot carry kuldeep there 

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

Specialist bowler means someone who’s playing for his bowling mostly 

 

Added skill makes him an AR. Even Shardul isn’t a specialist for Indian team selection because he won’t get in just for his bowling 

 

Its an accepted definition. There is nothing like exclusive bowler.

 

 

And jain is picked primarily for his bowling. 

[express bowling]

 

1 hour ago, Lord said:

.Added skill makes him an AR Even Shardul isn’t a specialist for Indian team selection because he won’t get in just for his bowling 

 

That is the thing. And why I raised this point.

 

Shardul will not get in the team for his bowling alone. He played because he could bat a bit in addition to his bowling.

 

While Ashwin and Kapil will get chances as bowlers even if they averaged 5 with the bat.

 

There has to be a demarcation between the two.

 

 

1 hour ago, Lord said:

Specialist bowler means someone who’s playing for his bowling mostly 

 

ts an accepted definition. There is nothing like exclusive bowler.

 

 

 

 

Gemini is new to cricket.   

 

Whatever you choose to call them but players can't be put down for having added skills.

 

And this is happening with Saransh and happening a lot with other players with added skills too. They are being dubbed as fake allrounders etc.

 

The only thing to look at here is .... whether they deserve chances due to their primary skill. 

 

I am not a fan of Saransh. But I think he has the credentials to replace Kuldeep because both are frontline bowlers ..  (   I guess this will be a term acceptable by all  ).

 

 

 

 

Edited August 23 by express bowling

[vvvslaxman]

Batsmen always get longer ropes, they are always excluded from condition based selection, balance based selection. IT is the bowlers that lose the spot anytime they want to make a left field change.

[Nikhil_cric]

The biggest mistake was trying to make Kuldeep a 3 format bowler. 

 

Indian cricket needs to get over this rubbish. 

 

You can get much more out of players when they are restricted max. 2 formats.