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rkt.india Grand Master

rkt.india

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8 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said:

Did Alzarri  not impress  any one ?  No one talking about this genuine fast bowler.

Found him to be a very good young pacer in the making Plus batting credentials. 

He has already played 40+ ODIs with 60+ wickets. He is not new. He played against us before too.

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AKane Veteran

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1 hour ago, Adamant said:

Will take these performances with a bori of salt. 

Needs to perform against bigger teams

 

 

yeah but for example Prasidh did well against the same opposition that Siraj and Shardul were average against.....the opposition was this WI.

 

So Prasidh will do worse against stronger opposition but then so would everyone else.

 

Against this opposition Prasidh was better than Siraj and Shardul.

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vishalvirsingh Mentor

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On 2/11/2022 at 10:59 PM, express bowling said:

Liked Rohit's handling of fast bowlers in the ODI series. 

 

Kept multiple slips for many many overs.

 

When wickets were not falling, he attacked the batters with short ball barrages by Siraj and Prasidh, and 2 wickets fell.

he picked Prasidh and Siraj and supported them well. Prasidh solely destroyed  WI in second match and SIraj also improved his performance in the third ODI.

 

most of the time he kept 2 SLIPS UP for Pacers and when He appreciated Prasidh , it was like whole hearted Applause ....i think Prasidh can only Improve from here, specially now he has won a multi crore IPL deal....He has everything that he would have ever dreamt for...

 

rohit's captaincy Beat Kohli's captaincy.

 

Kohli was a 8 on 10 in test captaincy and 7/10 in ODI captaincy. Kohli was a great captain as an Indian captain( not his IPL captaincy).

 

But Rohit seems to be better than Kohli.

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SRT100 Grand Master

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On 2/12/2022 at 3:59 AM, express bowling said:

Liked Rohit's handling of fast bowlers in the ODI series. 

 

Kept multiple slips for many many overs.

 

When wickets were not falling, he attacked the batters with short ball barrages by Siraj and Prasidh, and 2 wickets fell.

 

Clearly remember youve been a big fan of Prasidh for some time, well done. Hopefully he keeps improving. He does have good and easy room to take his game to another level.

 

I think he can, needs some gym time developing those arms of his to improve speed without compromising his flexibility and agility, it was really lacking musculature. I was shocked when I saw a close up of him.

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SRT100 Grand Master

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1 hour ago, express bowling said:

IPL Teams for prominent Indian quick bowlers ... 

 

MI .... Bumrah, Thampi

 

GT .. Shami

 

RR .. Prasidh 

 

KKR .. Mavi,

 

SRH .. Umran,  Tyagi

 

RCB .. Siraj

 

LSG .. Avesh

 

DC .. Nagarkoti 

 

CSK .. Asif, Deshpande 

 

Apologies if you spoke about this before. Can you tell me about Avesh and your thoughts?

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SRT100 Grand Master

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1 hour ago, express bowling said:

IPL Teams for prominent Indian medium pacers ....

 

SRH .. Bhuvi,  Natarajan 

 

CSK .. Chahar 

 

DC .. Shardul

 

RCB .. Harshal

 

PK .. Porel

 

LSG .. Rajpoot

 

 

 

 

 

Just on your thoughts here, can India in white ball cricket afford to play 3 genuine pace bowlers with no batting capacity and who do you think the two we will go with?

 

Im counting Shardul and Chahar as our all rounders.

 

I did like seeing Siraj and Prasidh together. Bumrah needs to improve back to his quality a few years back, he has been on a slow decline. Im not sure we can play all three.

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Jay Grand Master

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1 hour ago, SRT100 said:

 

Just on your thoughts here, can India in white ball cricket afford to play 3 genuine pace bowlers with no batting capacity and who do you think the two we will go with?

 

Im counting Shardul and Chahar as our all rounders.

 

I did like seeing Siraj and Prasidh together. Bumrah needs to improve back to his quality a few years back, he has been on a slow decline. Im not sure we can play all three.

Absolutely. 3 pacers is fine but.....we need a good batting for that. We have talent that never gets picked. So....that's the issue 

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Suhaan Grand Master

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21 minutes ago, Mosher said:

Kuldeep Sen, Sushant, Yash Dayal, Akash, Hangargekar, Bawa, Yarra Prithviraj and a few more. Lot of upcoming fast bowlers yet to be picked.  With 2 more IPL teams and teams looking to fill their squads, hope they all get picked.

I saw Mayank Yadav in the list,is he on, today 

I know he won't be picked,even Kuldeep Sen gets picked will be a surprise

What if they get picked,is there any chance they may get pivked mid season for their base price?

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express bowling Grand Master

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7 hours ago, SRT100 said:

 

Apologies if you spoke about this before. Can you tell me about Avesh and your thoughts?

 

During 2018 and 2019, Avesh used to hit the deck really hard and bowled a very heavy ball. Bowled upto high 140s in T20s.

 

After that, he tried to master swing bowling and that changed his bowling style a bit.

 

As it stands ... Avesh is a Fast-medium pacer who possesses quite a few skills. He can bowl indipping yorkers, bouncers, outswingers, seam the ball with bounce, bowl slower balls etc.

 

He is tall and can still bowl a heavy ball when he wants. He is primarily a hit the deck pacer and should stick to his strengths and try for bounce and seam movement with his stock balls.

 

His biggest issue is poor fitness ... which may create issues if he plays test matches. As of now, he is ideal for T20Is and maybe be moved up to ODIs if he does well.

 

I hope he gets to play all 3 T20Is.

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express bowling Grand Master

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7 hours ago, SRT100 said:

 

Just on your thoughts here, can India in white ball cricket afford to play 3 genuine pace bowlers with no batting capacity and who do you think the two we will go with?

 

Im counting Shardul and Chahar as our all rounders.

 

I did like seeing Siraj and Prasidh together. Bumrah needs to improve back to his quality a few years back, he has been on a slow decline. Im not sure we can play all three.

 

 

Combination which can allow 3 genuine pacers in ODIs ....

 

 

4. Rahul

5. Pant

6. Jadeja

7. Deepak

8. Washington

9. Siraj

10. Bumrah

11. Prasidh

 

....   3 Quicks + 2 Spinners + 1 Medium pacer .... 6 proper bowlers 

....  Batting till 8

 

I believe this combination can be really good.

 

 

 

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Jay Grand Master

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40 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

During 2018 and 2019, Avesh used to hit the deck really hard and bowled a very heavy ball. Bowled upto high 140s in T20s.

 

After that, he tried to master swing bowling and that changed his bowling style a bit.

 

As it stands ... Avesh is a Fast-medium pacer who possesses quite a few skills. He can bowl indipping yorkers, bouncers, outswingers, seam the ball with bounce, bowl slower balls etc.

 

He is tall and can still bowl a heavy ball when he wants. He is primarily a hit the deck pacer and should stick to his strengths and try for bounce and seam movement with his stock balls.

 

His biggest issue is poor fitness ... which may create issues if he plays test matches. As of now, he is ideal for T20Is and maybe be moved up to ODIs if he does well.

 

I hope he gets to play all 3 T20Is.

can avehs do well in tests? he has played ranji and did well. 

he should focus on tests and t20 imo. forget odi.

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SRT100 Grand Master

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2 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Combination which can allow 3 genuine pacers in ODIs ....

 

 

4. Rahul

5. Pant

6. Jadeja

7. Deepak

8. Washington

9. Siraj

10. Bumrah

11. Prasidh

 

....   3 Quicks + 2 Spinners + 1 Medium pacer .... 6 proper bowlers 

....  Batting till 8

 

I believe this combination can be really good.

 

 

 

 

I like the batting order too, also there is flexibility to float a batsman in depending if a left or right gets out.

 

India has no choice but to go with 6 given no one in the top 5 bowl.

 

The other main issue is tuk tuk 1,2,3. I can accept Hitman as 1, but we need to f**king move on from Kohli and Dhawan.

 

Otherwise your combination is lethal.

 

Jaddu in India should be a weapon. Sundar must continue to bowl well, the other option is Ash, Kuldeep, Chahal.

 

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