Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[express bowling]

Both Delhi and Bengal have quicker FC attacks as a group compared to many test teams like Pakistan, SL etc.

 

Delhi  --  Ishant, Saini, Khejroliya, Sangwan, Suyal

 

Bengal  -- Shami, Porel, Dinda, Kuila

 

Even Rajasthan -- Nathu, Aniket C, Pankaj, Khaleel, is a quick attack and will be quicker when Nagarkoti joins

 

 

Vidhabha -- Umesh, Lalit Yadav

 

Kerala -- Thampi, Warrier

 

Jharkhand -- Aaron, Shukla, Monu

 

UP -- Rajpoot, Bhuvi, DP Singh, K.Tyagi, Panwar, .... Mavi when he joins

 

..... are pacy attacks

 

 

Edited December 18, 2017 by express bowling

[Vijy]

5 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Both Delhi and Bengal have quicker FC attacks as a group compared to many test teams like Pakistan, SL etc.

 

Delhi  --  Ishant, Saini, Khejroliya, Sangwan, Suyal

 

Bengal  -- Shami, Porel, Dinda, Kuila

 

Even Rajasthan -- Nathu, Aniket C, Pankaj, Khaleel, is a quick attack and will be quicker when Nagarkoti joins

 

 

Kerala -- Thampi, Warrier

 

Jharkhand -- Aaron, Shukla, Monu

 

UP -- Rajpoot, Bhuvi, K.Tyagi, Panwar, .... Mavi when he joins

 

..... are not bad

 

 

I think Dinda is fast-medium at best, but the team avgs are certainly quite high.

[express bowling]

Just now, Vijy said:

I think Dinda is fast-medium at best, but the team avgs are certainly quite high.

Some are fast and some are fast-medium but all have sufficient  pace

[ind_hyd1]

11 hours ago, express bowling said:

Some are fast and some are fast-medium but all have sufficient  pace

On 11/19/2017 at 2:54 PM, Lannister said:

He may come good in Eng, but will get destroyed in places like SA and Aus. 

How quick is rajneesh gurbani of vidarbha

[rkt.india]

2 minutes ago, ind_hyd1 said:

How quick is rajneesh gurbani of vidarbha

Medium fast

[the don]

18 hours ago, express bowling said:

Both Delhi and Bengal have quicker FC attacks as a group compared to many test teams like Pakistan, SL etc.

 

Delhi  --  Ishant, Saini, Khejroliya, Sangwan, Suyal

 

Bengal  -- Shami, Porel, Dinda, Kuila

 

Even Rajasthan -- Nathu, Aniket C, Pankaj, Khaleel, is a quick attack and will be quicker when Nagarkoti joins

 

 

Vidhabha -- Umesh, Lalit Yadav

 

Kerala -- Thampi, Warrier

 

Jharkhand -- Aaron, Shukla, Monu

 

UP -- Rajpoot, Bhuvi, DP Singh, K.Tyagi, Panwar, .... Mavi when he joins

 

..... are pacy attacks

 

 

Lol what delusional world do you live in .

Who are these guys ??

Lol ishanth and dinda are about 10ks slower than Irfan and Gul . Let alone Amir , Wahab and hasan who are bowling 145 -150 kph these days in the case of the first 2 .

https://tune.pk/video/22799/pakistan-vs-india-2nd-odi

Inferiority complex ??

 

Edited December 18, 2017 by the don

[the don]

 

The newzealand tour will be fun.

[Mosher]

23 minutes ago, the don said:

Lol what delusional world do you live in .

Who are these guys ??

Lol ishanth and dinda are about 10ks slower than Irfan and Gul . Let alone Amir , Wahab and hasan who are bowling 145 -150 kph these days in the case of the first 2 .

https://tune.pk/video/22799/pakistan-vs-india-2nd-odi

Inferiority complex ??

 

Lot of pacers can crank 145k's in T20. Ask him to do that in tests. Amir was trundling around in UAE recently and gave up and ran away faking injury when the going got tough.

Indian pacers are a lot quicker than Pak pacers in tests. I think @Vilander or @express bowling had posted the speed gun readings for Indian and Pak pacers in recent tests.

Edited December 18, 2017 by Mosher

[express bowling]

3 hours ago, the don said:

Lol what delusional world do you live in .

Who are these guys ??

Lol ishanth and dinda are about 10ks slower than Irfan and Gul . Let alone Amir , Wahab and hasan who are bowling 145 -150 kph these days in the case of the first 2 .

https://tune.pk/video/22799/pakistan-vs-india-2nd-odi

Inferiority complex ??

 

 

Talking about 5-day matches which require stamina and intensity .... not 4-over-spell  masala cricket

 

All your pacers trundle in test cricket these days except Wahab

 

Ishant bowls 135 k to 145 k regularly in tests and occasionally touching 147 k.  Shami and Umesh are as quick or quicker.

 

Navdeep Saini was bowling 135 k to 144 k the whole day in Ranji semi-finals, a 5-day match.

Edited December 18, 2017 by express bowling

[vishalvirsingh]

3 hours ago, the don said:

Lol what delusional world do you live in .

Who are these guys ??

Lol ishanth and dinda are about 10ks slower than Irfan and Gul . Let alone Amir , Wahab and hasan who are bowling 145 -150 kph these days in the case of the first 2 .

https://tune.pk/video/22799/pakistan-vs-india-2nd-odi

Inferiority complex ??

 

indian pacers are better than PAK Pacers as of today and thats the important reason why indian team is no 1 in tests and also doing well in ODI and PAK cricket team is way behind , even a genuinely weak sri lankan team beat them in Tests..

 

please understand the world sees the cricket rankings which i or you do not decide. Pak team is way down in tests and doing better in odi but still no where close to INDIAN cricket team.

[Vijy]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

Talking about 5-day matches which require stamina and intensity .... not 4-over-spell  masala cricket

 

All your pacers trundle in test cricket these days except Wahab

 

Ishant bowls 135 k to 145 k regularly in tests and occasionally touching 147 k.  Shami and Umesh are as quick or quicker.

 

Navdeep Saini was bowling 135 k to 144 k the whole day in Ranji semi-finals, a 5-day match.

wahab also trundles in the later parts of the day. granted he can easily cross 90 mph initially but he runs out of gas many times.

[express bowling]

7 minutes ago, Vijy said:

wahab also trundles in the later parts of the day. granted he can easily cross 90 mph initially but he runs out of gas many times.

Very true

[Vijy]

5 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Very true

most of the times the Pakistani go ga-ga about his performances has been in the shorter formats. In Tests, he averages about 2-3 less than the likes of Ishant. Can do well in one spell initially and pick up a couple of wkts, and after that he's pretty useless.

 

reminds me of this test against pak where arafat picked up a few wkts and looked somewhat threatening, and soon ran visibly out of gas (huffing, puffing and panting). ganguly and yuvi proceeded to pummel the crap out of him later.

[the don]

3 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Talking about 5-day matches which require stamina and intensity .... not 4-over-spell  masala cricket

 

All your pacers trundle in test cricket these days except Wahab

 

Ishant bowls 135 k to 145 k regularly in tests and occasionally touching 147 k.  Shami and Umesh are as quick or quicker.

 

Navdeep Saini was bowling 135 k to 144 k the whole day in Ranji semi-finals, a 5-day match.

You obviously dont understand test cricket in the UAE .

These bowlers were matching the Australians easily for speed in Australia 

https://youtu.be/34YcUxw5IJs

 

No one in india can crank it up like Wahab and Amir

Certainly not the guys you mentioned who bowl slower than irfan and gul as was apparent in all the matches they played together .

You can rewatch .

 

 

[the don]

2 hours ago, vishalvirsingh said:

indian pacers are better than PAK Pacers as of today and thats the important reason why indian team is no 1 in tests and also doing well in ODI and PAK cricket team is way behind , even a genuinely weak sri lankan team beat them in Tests..

 

please understand the world sees the cricket rankings which i or you do not decide. Pak team is way down in tests and doing better in odi but still no where close to INDIAN cricket team.

Yeah the last match the two sides played resulted in an indian defeat by 180 runs .

Pakistani bowlers won them the champions trophy while the indians conceded 300 plus to pak and lanka .

Yes your spinners have done well in india for you . Lets see what your bowlers can do away from home . 

The track record is attrocious . Didnt get close to picking 20 wickets the last time around while the much maligned sohail khan helped pak draw a series in england . Let the performance do the talking.

[express bowling]

8 hours ago, the don said:

You obviously dont understand test cricket in the UAE .

 

Nothing but an excuse       Quick bowlers bowl fast in UAE too.

 

Shanon Gabriel in UAE 2016

 

1st test 

1st innings  Fastest    148 k, Average  140 k

2nd innings  Fastest   149 k, Average  141 k

 

https://www.icc-cricket.com/match/4410#hawk-eye_bowl-speeds

 

Shanon Gabriel in UAE 2016

 

2nd test 

1st innings  Fastest    151 k, Average  141 k

2nd innings  Fastest   149 k, Average  141 k

 

https://www.icc-cricket.com/match/4411#hawk-eye_bowl-speeds

 

 

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These bowlers were matching the Australians easily for speed in Australia 

https://youtu.be/34YcUxw5IJs

This video is not available in India

 

The one bowling fast must be Wahab Riaz

 

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No one in india can crank it up like Wahab and Amir

Amir has been significantly slower than most Indian pacers in test matches after his return from match-fixing ban

 

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Certainly not the guys you mentioned who bowl slower than irfan and gul as was apparent in all the matches they played together .

You can rewatch .

 

 

You are funny

 

I am talking about test matches nowadays.

 

Gul played his last test almost 5 years back ... Irfan has played only 4 tests, the last one 4 years back.

 

How are current Pakistani pacers faring in test matches in terms of speed  !

 

Apart from Wahab, all your other pacers were trundling in England and West Indies .

Edited December 19, 2017 by express bowling

[Vijy]

1 minute ago, express bowling said:

 

Nothing but an excuse   

 

Shanon Gabriel in UAE 2016

 

1st test 

1st innings  Fastest    148 k, Average  140 k

2nd innings  Fastest   149 k, Average  141 k

 

https://www.icc-cricket.com/match/4410#hawk-eye_bowl-speeds

 

Shanon Gabriel in UAE 2016

 

2nd test 

1st innings  Fastest    151 k, Average  141 k

2nd innings  Fastest   149 k, Average  141 k

 

https://www.icc-cricket.com/match/4411#hawk-eye_bowl-speeds

 

 

This video is not available in India

 

The one bowling fast must be Wahab Riaz

 

Amir has been significantly slower than most Indian pacers in test matches after his return from match-fixing ban

 

 

You are funny

 

I am talking about test matches nowadays.

 

Gul played his last test almost 5 years back ... Irfan has played only 4 tests, the last one 4 years back.

 

How are current Pakistani pacers faring in test matches in terms of speed  !

 

Apart from Wahab, all your other pacers were trundling in England and West Indies .

wahab is a trundler too in the eyes of any serious international (non-Pakistani) follower of cricket, after he has bowled 10-15 overs in the day.

[Vijy]

39 minutes ago, the don said:

Yeah the last match the two sides played resulted in an indian defeat by 180 runs .

Pakistani bowlers won them the champions trophy while the indians conceded 300 plus to pak and lanka .

Yes your spinners have done well in india for you . Lets see what your bowlers can do away from home . 

The track record is attrocious . Didnt get close to picking 20 wickets the last time around while the much maligned sohail khan helped pak draw a series in england . Let the performance do the talking.

the less said about pak's performance in Oz and NZ the better. the icing on the cake was their "great" performance in UAE against SL.

[speedheat]

8 hours ago, the don said:

Yeah the last match the two sides played resulted in an indian defeat by 180 runs .

Pakistani bowlers won them the champions trophy while the indians conceded 300 plus to pak and lanka .

Yes your spinners have done well in india for you . Lets see what your bowlers can do away from home . 

The track record is attrocious . Didnt get close to picking 20 wickets the last time around while the much maligned sohail khan helped pak draw a series in england . Let the performance do the talking.

Top 10 Current Fastest Bowlers of ct

Umesh Yadav vs. Sri Lanka – 146.6 [July 2017]

9. Kagiso Rabada vs. England – 147 [July 2017]

8. Liam Plunkett vs. South Africa – 147.3 [June 2017]

7. Adam Milne vs. Bangladesh – 147.7 [June 2017]

6. Jasprit Bumrah vs. Pakistan – 148.1 [June 2017]

5. Shannon Gabriel vs. Pakistan – 148.2 [May 2017]

4. Mitchell Starc vs. England – 148.5 [June 2017]

3. Tymal Mills vs. India – 149 [February 2017]

2. Pat Cummins vs. England – 149.2 [June 2017]

1. Wahab Riaz vs. India – 149.6 

 

https://sporteology.com/top-10-current-fastest-bowlers-world-cricket/?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C3257476868

 

See not a single fast bowler  apart from wahab in that list no hassan and no amir too, and we have 2 ,bumrah and umesh.

You also don't have answers to  Aron, shami and ishant in test matches which requires stamina, any fluke can bowl quick in t20s we have dhawal who touched 145k in ipl but we call him a mega trundler, amir, hassan, Abbas all were trundling in uae heat against srilanka, it looks like you are loosing this pace race.

 

Edited December 19, 2017 by speedheat

[maniac]

1 minute ago, speedheat said:

Top 10 Current Fastest Bowlers in the World of Cricket10.

Umesh Yadav vs. Sri Lanka – 146.6 [July 2017]

9. Kagiso Rabada vs. England – 147 [July 2017]

8. Liam Plunkett vs. South Africa – 147.3 [June 2017]

7. Adam Milne vs. Bangladesh – 147.7 [June 2017]

6. Jasprit Bumrah vs. Pakistan – 148.1 [June 2017]

5. Shannon Gabriel vs. Pakistan – 148.2 [May 2017]

4. Mitchell Starc vs. England – 148.5 [June 2017]

3. Tymal Mills vs. India – 149 [February 2017]

2. Pat Cummins vs. England – 149.2 [June 2017]

1. Wahab Riaz vs. India – 149.6 

 

https://sporteology.com/top-10-current-fastest-bowlers-world-cricket/?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C3257476868

 

See not a single fast bowler  apart from wahab in that list no hassan and no amir too, and we have 2 ,bumrah and umesh.

You also don't have answers to  Aron, shami and ishant in test matches which requires stamina, any fluke can bowl quick in t20s we have dhawal who touched 145k in ipl but we call him a mega trundler, amir, hassan, Abbas all were trundling in uae heat against srilanka, you seems to have loosing this pace race.

 

Wahab Riaz,Umesh Yadav,Tymal Mills,Shannon Gabriel,Liam Plunkett....as much as I love pace that line up would be the perfect evidence for some trundler lovers to use against fans of fast bowling