Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[Lone Wolf]

Just now, express bowling said:

Prasidh 2 for 58 in a very high scoring match.

 

Less than 6 runs per over.

Amazing performance..  Best bowler on show from both sides.  These pitches are unforgiving. 

[RAZPOR]

Bowling was good bar the spinners,we were clearly 50+ runs short.Batsmen beed to be held responsible here , especially top 4.

 

On the other hand,I honestly in my right mind cant see bhuvi as an opening bowler in ODIs unless he starts taking wickets early.

Being wicketless in t20s is ok as he bowls very economicaly ,but this approach seldom works in odis.

He needs to take wickets ,or put in for t20s only.

 

Prasidh has been very impressive ,been saying for a while he is a really good prospect.

I just hope we can give saini a good run too , hopefully he can figure it out this IPL.

Edited March 26, 2021 by RAZPOR

[Mosher]

5 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Prasidh 2 for 58 in a very high scoring match.

 

Less than 6 runs per over.

Prasidh looks such a lethal bowler with the old ball. Needs to work on his length's with the new ball. 

 

Fantastic prospect for tests and ODI's.

[express bowling]

15 minutes ago, Mosher said:

Prasidh looks such a lethal bowler with the old ball. Needs to work on his length's with the new ball. 

 

Fantastic prospect for tests and ODI's.

 

 

It was some heady stuff bro.

 

Cracking yorkers,  bouncers hitting batters on the body and good channel balls.

 

Prasidh is fantastic with the slightly older ball.

Edited March 26, 2021 by express bowling

[msb1991]

6 minutes ago, Mosher said:

Prasidh looks such a lethal bowler with the old ball. Needs to work on his length's with the new ball. 

 

Fantastic prospect for tests and ODI's.

Yes he looks good with the old ball - much better control. Control has shown itself to be king during this limited overs segment. 

[msb1991]

20 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Prasidh consistently beating Malsn with channel balls going away in his 10th over.

Got to keep it simple in ODI cricket. Good length, hitting top of off or just outside off stump and batsmen do not enjoy it. No one likes it. 

[express bowling]

3 minutes ago, msb1991 said:

Got to keep it simple in ODI cricket. Good length, hitting top of off or just outside off stump and batsmen do not enjoy it. No one likes it. 

 

 

Have been saying this for a long long time.

[Forward Defence]

Since the world cup in 17 ODI games our new ball bowlers have picked 5 wickets in the first 10 overs. Shami-2 , Bhuvi,Chahar and Natarajan -1 each. Almost all our frontline bowlers have featured in some of these games. Anyone else find this concerning? In the same games we have lost 20 wickets in the first 10.

Edited March 26, 2021 by Forward Defence

[Forward Defence]

Just now, MultiB48 said:

best way to get wickets upfront is to have a great swing bowler who can move the new ball both ways with good pace and control.

Who is that bowler?

[Forward Defence]

4 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

bumarh has lost his inswinger ,if he can use it along with his outswinger then he could improve upfront.

Bumrah is great but has 0 powerplay wickets after the world cup.

[Lone Wolf]

I think next game drop Kuldeep & play an extra pacer in Siraj.  Drop Krunal & play Sundar who is much better with the ball..  Than gully mohalla bowling of Krunal. 

[rkt.india]

48 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

I think next game drop Kuldeep & play an extra pacer in Siraj.  Drop Krunal & play Sundar who is much better with the ball..  Than gully mohalla bowling of Krunal. 

Sundar is not a bowler. He is practically a batsman who bowls 

[vishalvirsingh]

43 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

I think next game drop Kuldeep & play an extra pacer in Siraj.  Drop Krunal & play Sundar who is much better with the ball..  Than gully mohalla bowling of Krunal. 

liked that...he is not a genuine Spinner and I see many bowlers bowling exactly like that in Indian cities. 

can he be called in as a Spinning All rounder, I kinda like his hitting Skills as he definitely goes for his shots But Axar and Jaddu are better spinners than him. even one more Spinner who was bought for 9 CR by one of the Teams is a better Spin allrounder because of his batting skills.

Hardik with out Pace bowling is not an ideal fit into the team, just because hardik should get this message loud and clear that he has to play as an all rounder.

if Kuldeep is not looking good why are they nt letting him go and play domestic cricket. He is clearly below par.

 

krunnal is worth it as a batsman or a 6th bowler but not as a fifth bowler. where as washington can play as a 5th bowler and can bat too.

 

[vishalvirsingh]

very happy to see Prasidh playing ahead of Siraj and Nattu..he deserves this.

 

also happy to see Shardul bowling with a bit of guile and his pace is OK.

 

BHuvi is bowling a bit Slower again.

[Jay]

What a phenomenal prospect. Prasidh is FOOKING amazing. Just needs to work on that new ball skills. 

[Vijy]

prasidh has been very good - I predict he can be a beast in SA and Aus especially.

[msb1991]

38 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

Milne attempting another comeback

 

https://m.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/116808/the-bond-hand-in-adam-milnes-resurrection

 

It really feels that unless you have the perfect action like Brett Lee or a physical gift like Shoaib's hyperextension, then the human body just isn't conditioned to be able to withstand the strain of bowling over 150kph without constantly breaking down.  

[express bowling]

44 minutes ago, msb1991 said:

It really feels that unless you have the perfect action like Brett Lee or a physical gift like Shoaib's hyperextension, then the human body just isn't conditioned to be able to withstand the strain of bowling over 150kph without constantly breaking down.  

 

 

I am increasingly thinking that it is better to have pacers who can bowl 135 k to 148 k on most days ... and bowl with accuracy and bounce.

 

No point in having 140 k to 155 k pacers who keep breaking down and miss most matches.

 

Someone like Mark Wood rests more than he plays or gets injured. Ferguson doesn't play much either. Nortje is already bowling 135 k to 150 k on most occasions.

[msb1991]

34 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

I am increasingly thinking that it is better to have pacers who can bowl 135 k to 148 k on most days ... and bowl with accuracy and bounce.

 

No point in having 140 k to 155 k pacers who keep breaking down and miss most matches.

 

Someone like Mark Wood rests more than he plays or gets injured. Ferguson doesn't play much either. Nortje is already bowling 135 k to 150 k on most occasions.

Yes - agreed. I think regarding RF bowling, Dale Steyn had the right idea in Test matches. He mainly bowled a bit within himself and then could crank it up whenever needed. 

[Suhaan]

2 hours ago, msb1991 said:

It really feels that unless you have the perfect action like Brett Lee or a physical gift like Shoaib's hyperextension, then the human body just isn't conditioned to be able to withstand the strain of bowling over 150kph without constantly breaking down.  

Brett Lee and Akhtar both played 76 and 46  tests ,so they also had an injury hitten career

Akhtar remained mostly injured,they both could hit express pace but it had its own price

Today most bowlers have n number of opportunities to earn as much as they can ,so dont want to expose their bodies to rigours of express bowling