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Hardik likes to take the new ball and often completes his quota when he is captain. In odis he seems less enthusiastic with his bowling. Often bowls slower and keeps clutching his back as if an injury is just around the corner.

Anyways happy that he is keen to bowl. 

Posted

Dropping Umran is a bad idea irrespective of result of this game. It looks like our current TM is just not capable of grooming a fast bowler who looks to attack and take wickets. Very disappointing.

 

Or is Hardik just getting back to Umran for the barrage of short balls he faced from Umran in the IPL? 

Posted
2 hours ago, express bowling said:

Hardik the captain ....

 

.. Has Dropped Umran

.. Hasn't given the new ball to Arshdeep 

.. But has bowled 2 overs with the new ball himself 

 

cant understand why he feels he is better than shivam mavi and arshdeep as a pace bowler....

Posted
1 minute ago, vishalvirsingh said:

india beating new zealand on a turning pitch with 1 ball to spare...- i am not very proud of this win.

Nz have more players who can bowl part time spin than us. I remember in the 2000s we had a lineup where everyone could bowl barring the wicketkeeper.

Posted
2 hours ago, cricspirit said:

I cane believe what Hardik is doing. This guy makes me want to have Virat Kohli the captain back.

 

He is the so called all-rounder. his job is not to take the new ball. He has dropped the fastest bowler and not given the ball to the other two quicks who are playing the game. Instead bowled two himself and then spinners.  I don't have words to describe this guy. He already set the stage to drop Umran last match. 

 

Selfish, self-centered, Self-obsessed show off this guy is. Should not be even in the team let alone take charge of the team for any transition into future 5-8 years. 

 

 

Thank you for pouring my exact thoughts into words! 

 

Whats incredible is, the whole team management is turning a blind eye to this. Its all a set up. The whole fraternity is corrupt. 

Posted
12 hours ago, speedracer said:

True. But any bowler who has good consistent bounce plus decent pace is going to be good anywhere in any era tbh. 

right but my point  ER would hv been an issue for this great bowler too in modern world..

Posted
45 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

india beating new zealand on a turning pitch with 1 ball to spare...- i am not very proud of this win.

nZ win technically..they should rest SKY..how many times we hv won without SKY recently..so our team building is going nowhere..

Posted
11 hours ago, Rightarmfast said:

Thank you for pouring my exact thoughts into words! 

 

Whats incredible is, the whole team management is turning a blind eye to this. Its all a set up. The whole fraternity is corrupt. 

Umran strategically has been pushed below the pecking order...  Below Shardul in ODIs & now below Arshdeep & even Mavi in T20s. 

I hope he gets the momentum back under Steyn in IPL.  Hopefully Steyn kicks out Boobie Bhaiya too & plays both Tyagi & Umran. 

Posted
19 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Umran strategically has been pushed below the pecking order...  Below Shardul in ODIs & now below Arshdeep & even Mavi in T20s. 

I hope he gets the momentum back under Steyn in IPL.  Hopefully Steyn kicks out Boobie Bhaiya too & plays both Tyagi & Umran. 

I would be happy if he is a permanent fixture for test cricket and ODI's. Too much T20 will hamper his performance and his bowling skills. Also will add to his injuries. But yes, all these military medium bowlers need to be shown the way

 

Posted
31 minutes ago, express bowling said:

If the TM think that they can win the next T20 WC with a pace attack of Mavi, Hardik and Arshdeep, they are in for a rude shock again. 

 

They will make the same stupid face when trying to explain what went wrong.

 

TM have gone in with a mathematical approach to winning T20 cricket. They have underestimated the fear factor of a fast bowler and the rippling effect that has. Simply because its not a tangible measurable quantity. Its subjective. Hence TM moronic selections with bowling.


Fast bowlers put the fear of God in most players, this is amplified when the stakes are high like a final.

Posted
On 1/30/2023 at 1:41 AM, Lord said:

 

and wicketless with new ball

Correct.


Dont ever underestimate the impact of going wicketless with the new ball even if the economy is good.  Wickets in hand at the end and with Indian bowlers means you can score near 70-80 runs in the last 6 overs.

 

 

Posted
5 hours ago, SRT100 said:

Correct.


Dont ever underestimate the impact of going wicketless with the new ball even if the economy is good.  Wickets in hand at the end and with Indian bowlers means you can score near 70-80 runs in the last 6 overs.

 

 

This reminds me of someone, who used to regularly show this "skill" by going at less than 6 per over in PP, only to spill over the milk at the end.
His "fans" used to bring his excellent economy to justify his selection in the XI, which evaporated post the Asia Cup and then in T20 WC.

Posted
30 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

This reminds me of someone, who used to regularly show this "skill" by going at less than 6 per over in PP, only to spill over the milk at the end.
His "fans" used to bring his excellent economy to justify his selection in the XI, which evaporated post the Asia Cup and then in T20 WC.

Not just his overs as well that are milked, all the other bowlers as well later in the innings.

 

Its a compounding effect going wicketless in the PP.

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