Pravin Amre must rank as the most wronged player in Indian cricket

[Brainfade]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/862699.html

I wasn't a failure, because I was a part of a winning team and I was on the tour to New Zealand where I didn't play a single game, and I was dropped and after that never again played for the country. The first couple of years [after that] it was very difficult to digest. But you become more practical. That is the phase when I went into coaching rather than cribbing about what happened. I did a lot of coaching courses - Level 1, 2. I did Level 2 in South Africa in 1999. I was very interested in coaching so that I can be connected to cricket. That helped me because I handled it well. It is not like I went to an extreme - that has happened to so many cricketers who feel a bitter taste for a long time. Life moves on, I also moved on.

[tweaker]

Amre scored on debut test century in S A

[Texan]

I think his poor ODI record got him removed from the Test team. Perhaps, Kambli and Madhav Apte were more wronged among those that got an opportunity to play Test cricket.

[Gollum]

Apte and Ramesh too come to mind. And yeah Amre was definitely unlucky.

[youngindia]

not unlucky...just better competition he was one of those domestic champions who won't be gifted enough to be a success at the highest level. close but no cigar

[vvvslaxman]

How abot Saragossa ramesh

[maniac]

How abot Saragossa ramesh

Ramesh had flaws,a lot of them but yes could have been given a more extended run and dropped uncermoniously agreed,but compared to Amre,Amre was way unlucky and the treatment meted out to him was really unfair.

[Gollum]

The way Sadagopan Ramesh played Akram and Saqlain in 1999 :hatsoff: I thought he would finish as an ATG but alas Dada hated him. Dropped him in Aus 2003 after he saved our asses in the warm up games. Aakash Chopra :facepalm:

[Texan]

This guy may have felt wronged too.

[nevada]

There are always double standards in the selection process. In more recent times, we have the sad case of Pujara who was dropped from a test match to make way for Raina. A few years ago Badrinath was picked for a test or 2 and then thrown out never to be picked again. Amre was one of those blue collar players who has to work twice as hard to get half the opportunities given to the favored players. Even VVS Laxman was ill treated quite a few times despite his legendary exploits in test matches.

[NameGoesHere]

He was unlucky and could have played more games but to label him the most wronged player in Indian cricket is absurd. He was a stodgy middle order Test batsman with a gritty style that wasn't enough to keep him around, and a lousy ODI batsman. He played a few innings of note in SA. But it was all very plain fare. Maybe he could have lasted 1/2 years more in the Test arena, but his days in the middle order were numbered. For all that I'm surprised he's being compared to Sadgoppan Ramesh. Amre had solid technique. Ramesh IIRC could barely move his feet, and the talent that he did have was clearly not enough to sustain him at that level.

[youngindia]

Let me fill in a about the requirements of international sports this is not a regular office job where a average guy could be a performer through effort. people who are successful have very high averages and legendary ,match tilting tales in their name. most others do not have what it takes. The requirements are high and its even higher for a top team. So posters who are dreaming about the day vinay, binny, chopra and amre become superstars in international cricket, keep waiting for the next millennium. Its not in the realm of reality.

[youngindia]

Amre was one of those blue collar players who has to work twice as hard to get half the opportunities given to the favored players.

some players are favored because they are perceived to have the talent to win matches for the captain. even among highly talented players, a guy like ponting was preferred before a martyn or hayden ofcourse the likes of dhoni has given chances even to no hopers like vinay,. but the general pattern is what I said above.

[maniac]

Let me fill in a about the requirements of international sports this is not a regular office job where a average guy could be a performer through effort. people who are successful have very high averages and legendary ,match tilting tales in their name. most others do not have what it takes. The requirements are high and its even higher for a top team. So posters who are dreaming about the day vinay, binny, chopra and amre become superstars in international cricket, keep waiting for the next millennium. Its not in the realm of reality.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh-v-india-2014/engine/match/744681.html But yes get your point.

[Texan]

Not many people talk about Praveen Kumar when discussing those who were wronged. Probably because he is considered a "trundler". In the few Tests he played, he averaages 25 with the ball and was our stand-out bowler in England. In seaming conditions, he can be a handful.

[jalebi_bhai]

Not many people talk about Praveen Kumar when discussing those who were wronged. Probably because he is considered a "trundler". In the few Tests he played' date=' he averaages 25 with the ball and was our stand-out bowler in England. In seaming conditions, he can be a handful.[/quote'] Major disciplinary problems.

[Ironhide]

Not many people talk about Praveen Kumar when discussing those who were wronged. Probably because he is considered a "trundler". In the few Tests he played' date=' he averaages 25 with the ball and was our stand-out bowler in England. In seaming conditions, he can be a handful.[/quote'] Praveen Kumar missed loads of cricket due to combined reasons of injuries and discipline/rage problem. After that, Bhuvi made him obsolete.

[express bowling]

Amre was a very gritty batsmen who played well when the chips were down for his team. He lacked flair. Sadly...in the 90s...Indian selectors generally favoured flair over grit. His test century in South Africa against Donald and co. , was amazing. He clearly had the ability to be a good test batsman although he was not cut out for ODIs. He batted at no.6 and a more free stroking batsman is required at that slot, especially for tests in India. This factor also contributed to his being dropped. He surely deserved more chances. Vivek Razdan, the first pacer to represent India from the MRF pace foundation, got a raw deal too. He was a tall bowler who could move the ball at lively pace. He had bagged a fifer on debut but played only 2 tests.

[jf1gp_1]

Then even deep Das Gupta can crib. Guy was a keeper batsman, terrible keeper but could bat. This is an era when we had ss Das opening for India

[rkt.india]

Not many people talk about Praveen Kumar when discussing those who were wronged. Probably because he is considered a "trundler". In the few Tests he played' date=' he averaages 25 with the ball and was our stand-out bowler in England. In seaming conditions, he can be a handful.[/quote'] PK has himself to blame because he has been barely fit since that England tour. He was selected for 2012 AU's tour but wasn't fit and Mithun replaced him. He has not played much even for UP due to injuries.