Pak VS India in terms of Test batting

[Asim]

Question is whether current indian batting really better than Pakistani batting in test matches?

 

we generally have an impression of indian batting been much much stronger than Pakistani batting but in recent years stats will show you totally otherwise... Pakistani middle order with the Help of Younis and Misbah doing wayyy better than best of indians like Pujara, Rahane, Kohli etc...

Even Pakistani lower middle order Shafique and Sarfraz doing better than indian...

You will be surprised to see Sarfraz is doing better than likes of Rahane and Kohli...

 

Here's the statistical comparison for last 3 years with 500 runs as minimum qualification:

Only 3 indian batsman in Top 10 as compared to 7 of Pakistan based on last 3 years performances...

 

Younis and Misbah remains clearly ahead of Best of indian test batsmen even if you make a comparison for last 4 or even 5 years...

[rkt.india]

Yes, Indian batting is still good but not the same as we were with Fab 4. Apart from Kohli, Rahane, and to some extent Vijay even he was dropped, we dont have certainties in playing XI. Everyone is dispensable. Also, Younis is a legend and Misbah too is a veteran now. They certainly are class players. Even at home, batsmen now are guaranteed of scoring big because of the kind of pitches we are making. I dont see any of our current batsmen averaging 50 plus in a long run.

 

Also good batting pitches in UAE have helped Pakistani batsmen while we at home are preparing pitches where teams struggle to score 200.

Edited August 27, 2016 by rkt.india

[rkt.india]

Pakistan's selection of batsmen in test cricket has been pretty good too. They went for traditional approach batsmen like Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq rather than flashy players and here our captain is trying to do opposite.

[express bowling]

On the face of , it would look that Indian batting has done worse than Pakistan in the last few years. But, a detailed analysis would give a different picture.

 

Indians  have prepared low scoring home pitches and this has resulted in the averages of our top batters remaining  lower than expected.  Pakistani batters have got  got much better batting surfaces at " home " UAE.

 

Here is a breakup of  batting averages in different countries  of the Indian and Pakistani batters.

 

Our top batters have generally done very well in South Africa, Australia, England and New Zealand...where the batting conditions and bowling have stereotypically posed the biggest challenges for Asian batsmen due to bounce or pace or seam movement or swing.

 

From : ESPNCRICINFO

 

VIRAT  KOHLI

 

 

Career averages

	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
overall	2011-2016	45	76	4	3245	200	45.06	6055	53.59	12	12	4	380	10	Profile

Career summary

Grouping	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
v Australia	2011-2015	12	22	1	1276	169	60.76	2228	57.27	6	3	1	146	4
v Bangladesh	2015-2015	1	1	0	14	14	14.00	22	63.63	0	0	0	2	0
v England	2012-2014	9	17	1	322	103	20.12	823	39.12	1	0	2	40	0
v New Zealand	2012-2014	4	7	2	426	105*	85.20	725	58.75	2	3	0	63	2
v South Africa	2013-2015	6	10	0	472	119	47.20	875	53.94	1	2	0	58	0
v Sri Lanka	2015-2015	3	6	0	233	103	38.83	450	51.77	1	1	0	24	1
v West Indies	2011-2016	10	13	0	502	200	38.61	932	53.86	1	3	1	47	3
in Australia	2011-2015	8	16	0	992	169	62.00	1672	59.33	5	2	1	111	2
in Bangladesh	2015-2015	1	1	0	14	14	14.00	22	63.63	0	0	0	2	0
in England	2014-2014	5	10	0	134	39	13.40	288	46.52	0	0	2	15	0
in India	2011-2015	17	26	3	1059	107	46.04	2168	48.84	3	7	0	129	4
in New Zealand	2014-2014	2	4	1	214	105*	71.33	343	62.39	1	1	0	32	1
in South Africa	2013-2013	2	4	0	272	119	68.00	488	55.73	1	1	0	33	0
in Sri Lanka	2015-2015	3	6	0	233	103	38.83	450	51.77	1	1	0	24	1
in West Indies	2011-2016	7	9	0	327	200	36.33	624	52.40	1	0	1	34	2

 http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/253802.html?class=1;template=results;type=batting

 

 

AJINKYA RAHANE

 

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Career averages

	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
overall	2013-2016	26	44	6	1862	147	49.00	3439	54.14	7	8	3	221	15	Profile

 

Career summary

Grouping	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
v Australia	2013-2015	5	10	1	407	147	45.22	652	62.42	1	2	1	53	0
v Bangladesh	2015-2015	1	1	0	98	98	98.00	103	95.14	0	1	0	14	0
v England	2014-2014	5	10	1	299	103	33.22	590	50.67	1	2	1	40	1
v New Zealand	2014-2014	2	3	0	162	118	54.00	249	65.06	1	0	0	22	1
v South Africa	2013-2015	6	10	2	475	127	59.37	958	49.58	2	2	0	51	10
v Sri Lanka	2015-2015	3	6	0	178	126	29.66	365	48.76	1	0	1	18	0
v West Indies	2016-2016	4	4	2	243	108*	121.50	522	46.55	1	1	0	23	3
in Australia	2014-2015	4	8	1	399	147	57.00	628	63.53	1	2	1	52	0
in Bangladesh	2015-2015	1	1	0	98	98	98.00	103	95.14	0	1	0	14	0
in England	2014-2014	5	10	1	299	103	33.22	590	50.67	1	2	1	40	1
in India	2013-2015	5	8	1	274	127	39.14	540	50.74	2	0	0	23	8
in New Zealand	2014-2014	2	3	0	162	118	54.00	249	65.06	1	0	0	22	1
in South Africa	2013-2013	2	4	1	209	96	69.66	442	47.28	0	2	0	29	2
in Sri Lanka	2015-2015	3	6	0	178	126	29.66	365	48.76	1	0	1	18	0
in West Indies	2016-2016	4	4	2	243	108*	121.50	522	46.55	1	1	0	23	3

 

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/277916.html?class=1;template=results;type=batting

 

 

MURLI VIJAY

 

Career averages

	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
overall	2008-2016	39	66	1	2637	167	40.56	5624	46.88	6	12	4	323	21	Profile

Career summary

Grouping	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
v Australia	2008-2015	10	19	0	1162	167	61.15	2267	51.25	4	5	1	139	14
v Bangladesh	2010-2015	2	2	0	180	150	90.00	321	56.07	1	0	0	15	1
v England	2014-2014	5	10	0	402	146	40.20	1054	38.14	1	2	1	56	2
v New Zealand	2014-2014	2	4	0	48	26	12.00	109	44.03	0	0	0	8	0
v South Africa	2010-2015	9	16	1	429	97	28.60	1049	40.89	0	2	0	61	1
v Sri Lanka	2009-2015	4	6	0	268	87	44.66	470	57.02	0	3	1	27	3
v West Indies	2011-2016	7	9	0	148	45	16.44	354	41.80	0	0	1	17	0
in Australia	2014-2015	4	8	0	482	144	60.25	905	53.25	1	4	1	53	6
in Bangladesh	2010-2015	2	2	0	180	150	90.00	321	56.07	1	0	0	15	1
in England	2014-2014	5	10	0	402	146	40.20	1054	38.14	1	2	1	56	2
in India	2008-2015	15	24	1	1089	167	47.34	2218	49.09	3	3	0	139	10
in New Zealand	2014-2014	2	4	0	48	26	12.00	109	44.03	0	0	0	8	0
in South Africa	2010-2013	3	6	0	176	97	29.33	444	39.63	0	1	0	28	0
in Sri Lanka	2010-2015	3	5	0	181	82	36.20	349	51.86	0	2	1	17	2
in West Indies	2011-2016	5	7	0	79	45	11.28	224	35.26	0	0	1	7	0

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/237095.html?class=1;template=results;type=batting

 

 

 

Edited August 27, 2016 by express bowling

[express bowling]

Here is how the Pakistani top batters have done in different countries .  In South Africa, Australia, NZ and England .....Younis has been  good . Misbah average and the others have serious room for improvement.

 

From : ESPNCRICINFO

 

MISBAH

 

 

Career averages

	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
overall	2001-2016	65	113	17	4634	161*	48.27	10398	44.56	10	34	7	472	68	Profile

Career summary

Grouping	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
v Australia	2002-2014	7	13	2	416	101*	37.81	757	54.95	2	2	2	40	10
v Bangladesh	2003-2015	5	7	1	259	82	43.16	440	58.86	0	3	0	28	7
v England	2012-2016	10	18	0	814	114	45.22	1742	46.72	2	7	1	78	17
v India	2007-2007	3	6	2	464	161*	116.00	1058	43.85	2	1	0	46	4
v New Zealand	2001-2014	8	14	2	510	102*	42.50	1336	38.17	1	3	2	56	5
v South Africa	2007-2013	9	17	3	660	100	47.14	1584	41.66	1	5	1	79	8
v Sri Lanka	2009-2015	18	28	4	1041	135	43.37	2427	42.89	1	8	1	90	13
v West Indies	2011-2011	2	4	1	181	102*	60.33	384	47.13	1	1	0	21	3
v Zimbabwe	2011-2013	3	6	2	289	79*	72.25	670	43.13	0	4	0	34	1
in Australia	2009-2010	2	4	1	76	65*	25.33	148	51.35	0	1	2	8	2
in Bangladesh	2011-2015	4	6	1	246	82	49.20	379	64.90	0	3	0	26	7
in England	2016-2016	4	7	0	282	114	40.28	542	52.02	1	2	1	34	1
in India	2007-2007	3	6	2	464	161*	116.00	1058	43.85	2	1	0	46	4
in New Zealand	2001-2011	5	9	1	330	99	41.25	937	35.21	0	3	1	39	2
in Pakistan	2003-2009	5	5	0	142	42	28.40	459	30.93	0	0	0	19	1
in South Africa	2013-2013	3	6	0	135	64	22.50	387	34.88	0	1	1	21	3
in Sri Lanka	2002-2015	11	20	2	477	66*	26.50	1095	43.56	0	4	1	47	4
in U.A.E.	2002-2015	23	40	7	2012	135	60.96	4339	46.37	6	14	1	177	40
in West Indies	2011-2011	2	4	1	181	102*	60.33	384	47.13	1	1	0	21	3
in Zimbabwe	2011-2013	3	6	2	289	79*	72.25	670	43.13	0	4	0	34	1

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/41378.html?class=1;template=results;type=batting

 

 

YOUNIS  KHAN

 

 

Career averages

	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
overall	2000-2016	108	193	17	9456	313	53.72	17995	52.54	32	30	16	1027	64	Profile

Career summary

Grouping	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
v Australia	2002-2014	8	16	1	850	213	56.66	1603	53.02	3	3	1	86	5
v Bangladesh	2002-2015	7	10	2	638	200*	79.75	1015	62.85	3	0	2	65	7
v England	2001-2016	17	31	0	1426	218	46.00	2682	53.16	4	4	0	169	7
v India	2005-2007	9	17	2	1321	267	88.06	2247	58.78	5	4	3	171	3
v New Zealand	2001-2014	9	15	2	733	149*	56.38	1228	59.69	2	4	2	86	11
v South Africa	2002-2013	14	28	3	990	131*	39.60	2053	48.22	4	2	3	102	8
v Sri Lanka	2000-2015	29	48	4	2286	313	51.95	4495	50.85	8	6	3	223	16
v West Indies	2000-2006	10	19	1	701	153	38.94	1438	48.74	2	4	2	76	3
v Zimbabwe	2002-2013	5	9	2	511	200*	73.00	1234	41.41	1	3	0	49	4
in Australia	2004-2005	3	6	0	259	87	43.16	513	50.48	0	1	0	31	0
in Bangladesh	2002-2015	6	8	2	604	200*	100.66	965	62.59	3	0	1	61	7
in England	2001-2016	9	16	0	810	218	50.62	1471	55.06	2	3	0	103	5
in India	2005-2007	6	12	2	768	267	76.80	1358	56.55	3	2	2	99	2
in New Zealand	2001-2011	5	8	1	457	149*	65.28	743	61.50	1	3	1	59	6
in Pakistan	2000-2009	19	33	1	1898	313	59.31	3440	55.17	7	5	2	225	10
in South Africa	2002-2013	8	16	1	489	111	32.60	1097	44.57	1	2	2	51	3
in Sri Lanka	2000-2015	17	29	3	1172	177	45.07	2332	50.25	3	5	3	127	5
in U.A.E.	2002-2015	25	47	5	2277	213	54.21	4441	51.27	10	6	3	195	22
in West Indies	2000-2005	5	9	0	211	106	23.44	401	52.61	1	0	2	27	0
in Zimbabwe	2002-2013	5	9	2	511	200*	73.00	1234	41.41	1	3	0	49	4

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/43652.html?class=1;template=results;type=batting

 

 

ASAD SHAFIQ

 

 

Career averages

	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
overall	2010-2016	45	72	5	2871	137	42.85	6094	47.11	9	14	5	317	23	Profile

Career summary

Grouping	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
v Australia	2014-2014	2	2	0	110	89	55.00	183	60.10	0	1	0	6	3
v Bangladesh	2011-2015	4	5	0	351	107	70.20	686	51.16	2	1	0	30	3
v England	2012-2016	10	18	0	767	109	42.61	1556	49.29	2	4	2	87	4
v New Zealand	2011-2014	5	7	1	340	137	56.66	668	50.89	1	1	1	49	8
v South Africa	2010-2013	6	10	0	454	130	45.40	1020	44.50	2	3	0	61	2
v Sri Lanka	2011-2015	14	22	4	758	131	42.11	1707	44.40	2	4	1	71	3
v West Indies	2011-2011	2	4	0	48	42	12.00	152	31.57	0	0	1	7	0
v Zimbabwe	2013-2013	2	4	0	43	15	10.75	122	35.24	0	0	0	6	0
in Bangladesh	2011-2015	4	5	0	351	107	70.20	686	51.16	2	1	0	30	3
in England	2016-2016	4	7	0	274	109	39.14	501	54.69	1	1	2	40	2
in New Zealand	2011-2011	2	3	0	107	83	35.66	292	36.64	0	1	1	18	1
in South Africa	2013-2013	3	6	0	199	111	33.16	458	43.44	1	1	0	28	1
in Sri Lanka	2012-2015	8	13	1	589	131	49.08	1203	48.96	2	3	1	58	2
in U.A.E.	2010-2015	20	30	4	1260	137	48.46	2680	47.01	3	7	0	130	14
in West Indies	2011-2011	2	4	0	48	42	12.00	152	31.57	0	0	1	7	0
in Zimbabwe	2013-2013	2	4	0	43	15	10.75	122	35.24	0	0	0	6	0

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/316397.html?class=1;template=results;type=batting

 

 

AZHAR ALI

 

 

Career averages

	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
overall	2010-2016	49	92	6	3722	226	43.27	9108	40.86	10	20	8	354	10	Profile

Career summary

Grouping	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
v Australia	2010-2014	4	8	1	431	109	61.57	960	44.89	2	2	0	37	0
v Bangladesh	2011-2015	4	6	0	451	226	75.16	913	49.39	1	2	0	41	3
v England	2010-2016	12	23	2	732	157	34.85	1932	37.88	2	2	3	78	3
v New Zealand	2011-2014	5	9	0	355	87	39.44	925	38.37	0	3	0	30	3
v South Africa	2010-2013	7	14	1	422	90	32.46	1246	33.86	0	4	0	44	0
v Sri Lanka	2011-2015	12	22	2	995	157	49.75	2309	43.09	5	3	2	81	1
v West Indies	2011-2011	2	4	0	154	67	38.50	361	42.65	0	2	1	18	0
v Zimbabwe	2011-2013	3	6	0	182	78	30.33	462	39.39	0	2	2	25	0
in Bangladesh	2011-2015	4	6	0	451	226	75.16	913	49.39	1	2	0	41	3
in England	2010-2016	10	20	2	586	139	32.55	1387	42.24	1	2	2	74	2
in New Zealand	2011-2011	2	3	0	101	67	33.66	246	41.05	0	1	0	12	1
in South Africa	2013-2013	3	6	0	133	65	22.16	444	29.95	0	1	0	15	0
in Sri Lanka	2012-2015	8	14	0	621	157	44.35	1423	43.64	3	1	2	53	0
in U.A.E.	2010-2015	17	33	4	1494	157	51.51	3872	38.58	5	9	1	116	4
in West Indies	2011-2011	2	4	0	154	67	38.50	361	42.65	0	2	1	18	0
in Zimbabwe	2011-2013	3	6	0	182	78	30.33	462	39.39	0	2	2	25	0

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/39037.html?class=1;template=results;type=batting

 

 

 

 

Edited August 27, 2016 by express bowling

[express bowling]

Overall....it must also be said that Pakistani batsmen have done much better as a unit in the last year than people would expect them to do.   Some of them have shown grit in England and that deserves to be lauded.

[jusarrived]

Pak batting is basically some oldies and few good players in Asad and Azhar . its decent at the moment , but none of them would make it to the Indian linup .

The likes of YK and Misbah are old , can be considered .

Azhar and Asad are good , but they are never going to be world class . They are at best ~45 avg batsmen & already at their peak imo . 

 

 

[jusarrived]

2 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Pakistan's selection of batsmen in test cricket has been pretty good too. They went for traditional approach batsmen like Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq rather than flashy players and here our captain is trying to do opposite.

Well I think its pretty shortsighted . Pak needs to start investing in younger players soon .

[Trichromatic]

This is the performance of both teams outside India and UAE in last 3 years

 

4 hours ago, Asim said:

Question is whether current indian batting really better than Pakistani batting in test matches?

 

we generally have an impression of indian batting been much much stronger than Pakistani batting but in recent years stats will show you totally otherwise... Pakistani middle order with the Help of Younis and Misbah doing wayyy better than best of indians like Pujara, Rahane, Kohli etc...

Even Pakistani lower middle order Shafique and Sarfraz doing better than indian...

You will be surprised to see Sarfraz is doing better than likes of Rahane and Kohli...

 

Here's the statistical comparison for last 3 years with 500 runs as minimum qualification:

Only 3 indian batsman in Top 10 as compared to 7 of Pakistan based on last 3 years performances...

 

Younis and Misbah remains clearly ahead of Best of indian test batsmen even if you make a comparison for last 4 or even 5 years...

 

Performance of both batting line ups outside UAE and India

 

Team	Players	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
Pakistan	24	2013-2016	13	244	29	7102	226	33.03	13771	51.57	15	30	21	780	57
India	25	2013-2016	21	386	43	11059	200	32.24	21403	51.67	27	48	43	1301	74

 

Outside Asia

Overall figures

Team	Players	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
India	23	2013-2016	17	313	34	8904	200	31.91	17460	50.99	20	39	39	1077	62
Pakistan	19	2013-2016	6	123	14	3164	218	29.02	6636	47.67	5	13	12	414	20

 

In UAE and India

Team	Players	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
Pakistan	24	2013-2015	13	229	36	7900	245	40.93	15387	51.34	28	28	24	754	89
India	19	2013-2015	6	86	11	2307	177	30.76	4497	51.30	6	6	7	272	18

 

[rkt.india]

7 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

This is the performance of both teams outside India and UAE in last 3 years

 

 

Performance of both batting line ups outside UAE and India

 

Team	Players	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
Pakistan	24	2013-2016	13	244	29	7102	226	33.03	13771	51.57	15	30	21	780	57
India	25	2013-2016	21	386	43	11059	200	32.24	21403	51.67	27	48	43	1301	74

 

Outside Asia

Overall figures

Team	Players	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
India	23	2013-2016	17	313	34	8904	200	31.91	17460	50.99	20	39	39	1077	62
Pakistan	19	2013-2016	6	123	14	3164	218	29.02	6636	47.67	5	13	12	414	20

 

In UAE and India

Team	Players	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
Pakistan	24	2013-2015	13	229	36	7900	245	40.93	15387	51.34	28	28	24	754	89
India	19	2013-2015	6	86	11	2307	177	30.76	4497	51.30	6	6	7	272	18

 

there is something wrong with Pakistani averages here. 

[express bowling]

 

Performance of Indian and Pakistani batsmen outside Asia in the last 5 years ( minimum 5 test matches )

 

Top 4 of the 5 batsmen are Indians... Top 3....Rahane, Rahul and Kohli..... lead by a huge margin too.

 

 

From : ESPNCRICINFO

 

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
AM Rahane (India)	2013-2016	17	29	5	1312	147	54.66	2431	53.96	4	7	2	166	7
KL Rahul (India)	2014-2016	5	7	0	366	158	52.28	707	51.76	2	1	0	40	4
V Kohli (India)	2011-2016	21	38	1	1863	200	50.35	3189	58.41	8	4	3	219	4
Younis Khan (PAK)	2013-2016	7	13	0	524	218	40.30	1086	48.25	2	0	1	60	7
M Vijay (India)	2013-2016	15	27	0	1087	146	40.25	2469	44.02	2	7	2	143	8
Asad Shafiq (PAK)	2013-2016	7	13	0	473	111	36.38	959	49.32	2	2	2	68	3
R Ashwin (India)	2011-2016	13	22	4	635	118	35.27	1190	53.36	2	2	1	63	5
Azhar Ali (PAK)	2013-2016	7	14	1	428	139	32.92	1099	38.94	1	1	0	53	2
Misbah-ul-Haq (PAK)	2013-2016	7	13	0	417	114	32.07	929	44.88	1	3	2	55	4
CA Pujara (India)	2013-2016	15	26	0	825	153	31.73	1990	41.45	1	3	1	104	1
WP Saha (India)	2012-2016	7	10	0	316	104	31.60	739	42.76	1	0	1	26	3
S Dhawan (India)	2013-2016	13	24	0	718	115	29.91	1269	56.57	1	3	2	84	3
MS Dhoni (India)	2011-2014	14	27	2	723	82	28.92	1344	53.79	0	6	2	97	4
B Kumar (India)	2014-2016	8	13	2	297	63*	27.00	631	47.06	0	3	3	46	0
RG Sharma (India)	2013-2016	10	18	1	424	72	24.94	939	45.15	0	2	3	40	10
Sarfraz Ahmed (PAK)	2013-2016	7	13	1	276	46*	23.00	424	65.09	0	0	1	38	0
RA Jadeja (India)	2013-2016	8	15	1	289	68	20.64	416	69.47	0	1	2	38	6
G Gambhir (India)	2011-2014	6	12	0	206	83	17.16	525	39.23	0	1	2	25	0
Mohammed Shami (India)	2013-2016	14	20	8	171	51*	14.25	248	68.95	0	1	4	19	5
Mohammad Hafeez (PAK)	2013-2016	6	12	0	145	42	12.08	310	46.77	0	0	4	23	1
UT Yadav (India)	2011-2016	9	13	5	90	30	11.25	169	53.25	0	0	2	12	3
Rahat Ali (PAK)	2013-2016	5	10	5	56	22	11.20	130	43.07	0	0	2	10	0
Z Khan (India)	2011-2014	8	15	1	154	35	11.00	228	67.54	0	0	5	21	5
I Sharma (India)	2011-2016	18	27	7	125	26	6.25	413	30.26	0	0	7	14

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;host=1;host=2;host=3;host=4;host=5;orderby=batting_average;qualmin1=5;qualval1=matches;spanmin1=27+Aug+2011;spanval1=span;team=6;team=7;template=results;type=batting

 

 

Edited August 27, 2016 by express bowling

[Asim]

another factor I've observed (I could be wrong) has been developed in indian batting is performance against spin, their overall quality to play spin has gone much down as compared to past or even just a decade ago...

[Trichromatic]

3 minutes ago, Asim said:

another factor I've observed (I could be wrong) has been developed in indian batting is performance against spin, their overall quality to play spin has gone much down as compared to past or even just a decade ago...

Yes, they started to show signs of that after 2012. This will be crucial for their home series. Most of the batsmen are not good against turning balls nowadays.

[rkt.india]

8 minutes ago, Asim said:

another factor I've observed (I could be wrong) has been developed in indian batting is performance against spin, their overall quality to play spin has gone much down as compared to past or even just a decade ago...

In this team, only Vijay and Pujara are good against spin to some extent. They both have long reach and use their feet and also sweep to good effect.

[Adi_91]

2 hours ago, Asim said:

another factor I've observed (I could be wrong) has been developed in indian batting is performance against spin, their overall quality to play spin has gone much down as compared to past or even just a decade ago...

Effect of preparing green pitches to fund trundlers in domestic cricket. That's why the new generation of batsmen are struggling a bit against spin.

 

Also the effect of T20s I guess. The technique is long gone from the game against spin.

Edited August 27, 2016 by Adi_91

[WC2011INDIA]

Sadly, padosi...Get the top order cheaply...the rest will struggle...unless someone down the order plays a magical knock. We survived in WI. 

[the don]

Pakistani batsmen are better players of spin in test cricket especially offspin and perhaps swing too .

Will see how they do against the bounce in Australia later this year.

[Vilander]

So Pak is better in batting and India is better in bowling for now. Lol Good Thread.

[Adi_91]

3 minutes ago, Vilander said:

So Pak is better in batting and India is better in bowling for now. Lol Good Thread.

Yeah, all chest thumping based on a tied series (not a series win) result.

 

[Vilander]

12 minutes ago, Adi_91 said:

Yeah, all chest thumping based on a tied series (not a series win) result.

 

the operative point is this is their fab 5 equivalent the fab 2. But pace bowling of two sides are the same age group and more comparable. But anywhoo i think Mizba and Younis have done well for now.