South Africa announces Quotas for National Team,Minimum 6 non whites must in the team

[Malcolm Merlyn]

A minimum of six black cricketers must be included in South Africa's national team under new racial quotas.

The "targets", as they are officially called, are for all three formats of the game - Tests, one-day internationals (ODIs) and Twenty20 internationals - over the season.

They have been in place at provincial level for several years, but it is the first time they have been introduced for the top side.

They are aimed at increasing the number of black players in a sport still dominated by white people.

The target of at least six black players, of which two must be black African, was reached in the side's most recent game - their victorious second test over New Zealand in Centurion.

There were two black Africans - Temba Bavuma and Kagiso Rabada - and four other non-white players Hashim Amla, JP Duminy, Vernon Philander and Dane Piedt in the starting team of 11.

The quotas were confirmed at Cricket South Africa's (CSA) annual general meeting in Johannesburg after being discussed by sub-committees.

CSA president Chris Nenzani said: "The test starting XI that played in the recent series against New Zealand contained six players of colour and two Black Africans.

"And the ODI starting XI had as many as eight players of colour in their most recent series against the West Indies and Australia."

He added: "With the targets being measured over the full season and being cumulative across all three formats, our selectors and team management will have the flexibility to deal with varying circumstances.

"This shows very clearly that the targets are very attainable and sustainable and we will maintain the world-class standards that our players regularly produce."

South Africa next play in a one-day international against Ireland on 25 September, before facing Australia in the first of five 50-over matches at home on 30 September.

Sixteen years ago, cricketer Kevin Pietersen, who has an Afrikaner father and English mother, left South Africa for Britain as a teenager in protest at the racial quota system which he felt was unfairly restricting his opportunities.

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[beetle]

I think this is reverse racism and icc should take this up.It is a majority black country...the management should encourage the sport by making sure no one is kept out on basis of colour ...but forcing it is not the right way to go.

Edited September 4, 2016 by radhika

[Malcolm Merlyn]

I think this is reverse racism and icc should take this up.It is a majority black country...the management should encourage the sport by making sure no one is kept out on basis of colour ...but forcing it is not the right way to go.

What about India giving special residency permits to Saffers and let them play for India?

Modiji must definately think about this.

[G_B_]

The problem is going to be 2 black african players. There is enough depth among colored and asian players to make up 4 slots.

 

 

[sscomp32]

7 minutes ago, Viper said:

Rabada is there.. just need to find one more

Already have bavuma in tests.

[Adi_91]

Can we have Indian origin Amla in our team instead of Dhawan? This is good time to hunt for good players from SA side.

 

Even ABDV will be a good pick. Time for BCCI to flex its muscle. 

[Adi_91]

6 minutes ago, Viper said:

Its not possible  lol 

 

Why are people even saying this...

Just kidding bro. SA are on a mission to complete a minnow transformation. With due respect, this is going to affect them in the long run.

[New guy]

Rahul should promise dalit and minority quota in Indian team. Congress will win by a land slide

[Bigg Brother]

It is good news for Australia,NZ and England.

[nevada]

This is from wikipedia regarding SA's ethnic demographics:

 

"The 2011 census figures for these groups were Black African at 80.2%, White at 8.4%, Coloured at 8.8%, Indian /Asian at 2.5%, and Other/Unspecified at 0.5%. "

Of course, it is unrealistic to expect that just because black africans are 80%, they should make up 80% of the cricket team. But how many blacks play cricket seriously? How big is the selectorial pool of black cricketers of international calibre as compared to the same number among whites? Based on these numbers cricket SA needs to take a decision about quotas. Despite the end of apartheid 25 years ago, whites continued to dominate SA cricket despite their small number in the overall population and it is unrealistic to expect this to continue for long. A 100% white team is not necessarily good and a few blacks in the team may not necessarily be bad either.

Edited September 4, 2016 by nevada

[beautifulgame]

I remember reading an article couple of years back on this .How black kids generally find it hard because Cricket is still mostly played in high claas privileged(private?) schools where it's still mostly dominated by whites and how most cricket academies are situated in only cities which black kids struggle to attend because of travel costs .Can't find the article now but the crux was that cricket is a very expensive game in SA so black kids struggle to get into it unlike Football which is a mass sport .

The issue need to be addressed (if more black kids don't get into cricket, it will slowly die there for sure ) , but this enforced quota is hardly the solution .

There was an interesting interview with cullinon on ESPN on this topic which was quite revelling as well

[sourab10forever]

It doesn't matter if they already have players or not...this is a rule bound to backfire soon.

[gakgupta]

Now all the SA white players should start playing for england or may be Ireland....

They should ban SA cricket board..

Sports should be played on merit....not on colour ...

One more Zimbabwe in making

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[renjith]

I don't see this as a bad decision. imo upliftment of the black community to whom that country truely belongs is more important than sports.

Edited September 6, 2016 by renjith

[gakgupta]

I don't see this as a bad decision. imo upliftment of the black community to whom that country truely belongs is more important than sports.

It's bizzare

How come quota in sports help in upliftment

There are many walks in life upliftment can be done but not sports

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[Singh bling]

23 hours ago, renjith said:

I don't see this as a bad decision. imo upliftment of the black community to whom that country truely belongs is more important than sports.

So by your logic if tommorow emerging cricketers from North India whose forefathers were settled in Maharashtra will start taking pace of marathi cricketers and state will impose quota for marathi cricketers then you will see nothing wrong in that?

[renjith]

The kind of looting and exploitation they have gone through for centuries can't be compared to anything else and they deserve every option for a better life. We cannot weigh that to a present day sporting achievement.

 

It can look like injustice if you look at the present situation alone. If you look at the history of Africa you will understand it is not.

Edited September 7, 2016 by renjith

[Singh bling]

24 minutes ago, renjith said:

The kind of looting and exploitation they have gone through for centuries can't be compared to anything else and they deserve every option for a better life. We cannot weigh that to a present day sporting achievement.

 

It can look like injustice if you look at the present situation alone. If you look at the history of Africa you will understand it is not.

History is full of looting and exploitation .A white kid born in 90s is not responsible what his forefathers did.And BTW dalits like sweepers also went through and still going through hellish life because for centuries they were denied of better life by upper caste.Similarly muslims also did lot of looting and raping .

[nevada]

Chill, guys! It's not like the predominantly white SA team hasn't failed since reintegration 25 years ago. Who knows, maybe some black cricketers will emerge as great fast bowlers and mentally tough cricketers helping them finally lose the choker tag. I sorta agree with Renjith. Two wrongs don't make a right but compared to the segregation+exclusion practiced by whites and so called Afrikaners(dutch men who owned slaves and treated Indians like crap back in Gandhi's time) in all walks of life, a minimum requirement of 2 black cricketers in the team is nothing. I totally agree with the objection of forumers to racial quotas but if left alone, the whites could practice segregation in cricket for eternity. When you think SA cricket team, you automatically think white. But if you think of SA the country, you think black. Isn't it strange that 25 years after reintegration, this disparity continues? 

[Forever Indian]

All these quota systems could be imposed at the domestic level so that enough people of colour are given chance to improve their skills. At international level you want to pick the best domestic talent.