Terror attack at Army headquarters in Jammu and Kashmir's Uri, near Line of Control; intense firing underway

[Adi_91]

7 minutes ago, surajmal said:

Nothing so far. By now, any other equally capable self respecting country would have blown every border post of jihadi army. Gaandus galore everywhere. 

Bro, there are issues that need to be handled. If we go all out war, there is another terrible neighbor we are bestowed with who will jin hands with the incapable army to make them look better.

 

China wants a war situation to wrest some of the NE states from India. This is a dirty game being played by these two rogue neighbors. That is why the Government is quiet.  Attacking border posts is not an option now.

[surajmal]

China isnt doing shit. It has got a 50 billion trade surplus with respect to India. Most of its energy supplies go right under the nose of India. It also got Japan and US to deal with on the eastern flank. Attack from china is just the what the cowards sitting in unwarranted big positions want you to be mindful of. 

 

Toilet bowl next door is alone. Problem now, as has been for centuries, is the genetic propensity of Indians to be cowards.  

Edited September 19, 2016 by surajmal

[Adi_91]

4 minutes ago, surajmal said:

China isnt doing shit. It has got a 50 billion trade surplus with respect to India. Most of its energy supplies go right under the nose of India. It also got Japan and US to deal with on the eastern flank. Attack from china is just the what the cowards sitting in unwarranted big positions want you to be mindful of. 

 

Toilet bowl next door is alone. Problem now, as has been for centuries, is the genetic propensity of Indians to be cowards.  

I disagree. China has been preparing for a war situation. Heard they had asked for some land to establish an army base in Sri Lanka. Clearly to be ready for a war situation in all possible directions. Thankfully, the new regime in SL denied it.

 

You know what, no matter what these Pakistanis do, they will not get Kashmir even in hell. 

Edited September 19, 2016 by Adi_91

[Muloghonto]

8 hours ago, panther said:

Greater India which will be Uninhabitable lol? 

No one is firing more than 2-3 nukes before US, China, Russia, EU and everyone shows up at your shores and invades you for preservation of the world eco system. Turning entire Indian subcontinent to a nuclear waste-land will have massive climatological consequences for rest of the world, they arnt going to stand by and sit around pretending 'its only that part of the world'.

And as the last 3.5 wars have proven, we don't need nukes to beat up on Islamic army of Pakistan. 

[Muloghonto]

4 hours ago, Sajid_Rana said:

Typical of Modi shenanigans. After the current Kashmir massacre and the aggressive taking down of Indian representatives by Pakistan at UN , India needed some kind of incident to divert the attention of the world from Kashmir and play the victim card.

Those Bakwaas lies you must believe, even your allies like USA, UK etc. are no longer your allies because they figured out the BS like Kargil incident and all other terror activities in Kashmir have Pakistani money and arms support. Even Kerry, who was in India a few months ago, said openly in the interview that Pakistan has to stop supporting terrorist organizations like LeT and JeM. 

Pakistan has no aukaad to take down India on Kashmir issue. Because we are 100% in the legal right and you are 100% in the legal wrong. Rest of the world knows this, which is why nobody supports your position in Kashmir beyond a few wishy-washy words. Nobody has sanctioned India or officially declared to it that it recognizes Pakistan's claims to Kashmir. Not even your bestest ally Turkey. Why ? because even the most basic student of law knows your position in Kashmir is illegal and unsustainable.

 

[Muloghonto]

1 hour ago, surajmal said:

China isnt doing shit. It has got a 50 billion trade surplus with respect to India. Most of its energy supplies go right under the nose of India. It also got Japan and US to deal with on the eastern flank. Attack from china is just the what the cowards sitting in unwarranted big positions want you to be mindful of. 

 

Toilet bowl next door is alone. Problem now, as has been for centuries, is the genetic propensity of Indians to be cowards.  

China won't throw the first stone- not anymore. But you'd be a fool to think that Chinese military isn't watching nervously the 'noose' around its borders tighten in anti-China sentiments and use a flashpoint to escalate into war, for better sea-zone access or atleast, divert rising public discontent regarding their slowing economy and political rights situation.

 

If India-Japan-S.Korea-Australia-Vietnam-US forms an Asian NATO, then China will certainly go on war footing and prepare for war. In such a climate, its all a matter of one twitchy finger and war starts.

 

[Muloghonto]

8 hours ago, KeyboardWarrior said:

tell this to UN. will ya ? 

I am telling this to you because you falsely believe Pakistan doesnt spend money on Kashmir instability. Something that has been long proven in the world. 
I am simply telling you that we are now playing the game you play- throw money & weapons and propaganda at people for 'independence'. We are playing the same game in Baluchistan, with more money and guns. You are a fool if you think Baluchistan is 'solved' and it will not have insurgency problems again. Just like we've been experiencing a few years of hell, a few years of peace and repeat cycle in Kashmir for the last 30 years, Baluchistan is going to become the same for you guys.

[randomGuy]

 

 

1 hour ago, Adi_91 said:

I disagree. China has been preparing for a war situation. Heard they had asked for some land to establish an army base in Sri Lanka. Clearly to be ready for a war situation in all possible directions. Thankfully, the new regime in SL denied it.

 

You know what, no matter what these Pakistanis do, they will not get Kashmir even in hell. 

1. India has firmed up land and air defences in North-East And in Leh-Ladakh. Do not underestimate Indian army.

2. China will be inviting long term hostility for no reason. It will be hurting its trade interests (trade surplus with India). India can also prepare Uighur and Tibetan militants and create terror attacks in mainland china (Shanghai, Beijing) as a tit-for-tat for helping pakistan.

3. Generally in such policy of hostility with a big neighbour, the more developed country will have more to lose than the relatively lesser developed. China has more to lose than India at this point.

 

What China will do is what it is doing right now - arming and helping Pakistan . that is damaging for India in itself , so they are succeeding and needn't do anything more to invite harm on themselves.  

 

 

 

[FischerTal]

if modi wants to come back to power with a convincing majority, he will need to take on Pakistan in a visible manner. public anger at home is already rising with inflation and jobless growth. if he cannot even be firm on national security, then its best that he come back to gandhinagar.

[FischerTal]

2 hours ago, surajmal said:

Nothing so far. By now, any other equally capable self respecting country would have blown every border post of jihadi army. Gaandus galore everywhere. 

dont expect anything either. the bureaucracy wants the status quo maintained. escalation would mean a disruption in their sukoon wali zindagi. they are content with a few dozen jawans dying every 3-4 months if it is required to maintain lutyens Delhi.

[chewy]

8 hours ago, KeyboardWarrior said:

are you saying RAW was behind in all attacks ? 

who knows...but there is simple pattern everytime even a tiny attack happens on India (domestic or abroad)....a vicious cycle is unleashed in Pakistan where thousands of your countrymen are killed in terror attacks and blind retaliation by your own psycho Pak Army.

 

Make note of this and visit this thread mid 2017, everyone here on ICF will be here discussing Pakistan burning once again (like recently in 2014). because of their own "home grown" snakes.

[Lannister]

14 hours ago, zen said:

Ind has to get out of the "giving proof" mentality. Ind's enemy is known and any such acts should be automatically considered as act of war

 

Need to impose sanctions on Pak. No planes can fly into Pak using Ind, Afg and Iran air space. Navy patrol and blockage in the Arabian Sea. No Pak vehicle can travel in Afg, Iran and ofc Ind

 

 

+1. I am getting sick of hearing this producing of proof thing. Its time to act and that is to isolate Pak in any way possible. 

[vayuu1]

I am more sick of this kadi ninda shyte, it's time to shove khada danda behind, these chewts.

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[jalebi_bhai]

Having travelled the interwebs all day, I've noticed that after a fairly long time (5 years is a long time in politics), there finally seems to be a consensus across the mainstream political spectrum in India that there must be some form of retaliation against Pakistan, the usual lobbies/suspects withstanding. People's motivations might be different, but the demand is unified. Ball is in Modi Sarkar's court.

 

Retaliation is a must, only thing to be decided is whether we want instant gratification or a more long term approach. Make no mistake people, this is a provocation. UNGA is in session and they are looking for any alibi to start their Kashmir related tamaasha in NYC. Delhi has their work cut out. 

Edited September 19, 2016 by jalebi_bhai

[Asim]

According to indians, its ALWAYS an inside job when Pak army get attacked by Talibans/Afghans...
now, anyone?

[Ras Al Ghul]

I disagree. China has been preparing for a war situation. Heard they had asked for some land to establish an army base in Sri Lanka. Clearly to be ready for a war situation in all possible directions. Thankfully, the new regime in SL denied it.

 

You know what, no matter what these Pakistanis do, they will not get Kashmir even in hell. 

China hasnt gone to war for Sikkim Arunachal Assam but will go to war for Pakistan.

Hosh ki dawa karo.

[Ras Al Ghul]

According to indians, its ALWAYS an inside job when Pak army get attacked by Talibans/Afghans...

now, anyone?

Why not elaborate on this.

[velu]

looks like pakistan has unlimited supply of suicide bombers

 

[zen]

Posts by many of the Pakistanis show that the concept of poor innocent Pakistanis being duped by their own govt is flawed. When it comes to Ind and policy on terror, majority appear to have the same stand and therefore on the same page as their govt

 

So even if Ind were to nuke Pak, there is not much to feel sorry about. In fact, Ind could be doing a favor to the world by making it a better place by getting rid of unwanted elements 

[Asim]

4 minutes ago, zen said:

Posts by many of the Pakistanis show that the concept of poor innocent Pakistanis being duped by their own govt is flawed. When it comes to Ind and policy on terror, majority appear to have the same stand and therefore on the same page as their govt

 

So even if Ind were to nuke Pak, there is not much to feel sorry about. In fact, Ind could be doing a favor to the world by making it a better place by getting rid of unwanted elements 

Ao Nuke-Nuke khailtey hain