Is England Ashwin's bogey team?

[Tibarn]

3 hours ago, fineleg said:

Has Ashwin taken wickets (on non-designer pitches) of batsmen who are good players of spin ? I think he has, but I want to recollect the names.

I don't consider the pitches we played on in SL as designer. They helped spin a fair amount but were not raging turners IMO. He played well there, even against a champion player of spin like Sangakkara.

[Singh bling]

15 hours ago, Tibarn said:

I don't consider the pitches we played on in SL as designer. They helped spin a fair amount but were not raging turners IMO. He played well there, even against a champion player of spin like Sangakkara.

Sangakarra was finished in 2015 , that was last leg of his career. Rest of lankan team hardly had any good players of spin

[mancalledsting]

England can't play spin well- see last match against Bangladesh. Wicket was flat, England had best of batting conditions and we dropped many catches. Also, we have injuries to Bhuvi, Rahul and Rohit. 

[G_B_]

Well atleast with the bat Ash is more than making up.

 

came in at a time when India were reeling, stabilized the innings.

[putrevus]

Pitch did not look flat when they were bowling in second innings, I can understand first innings but second innings is absolutely worrisome.

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[fineleg]

On day 3 , 4 and 5 - the England spinners showed more wile and guile than Indian spinners. That's the concern. Not just wickets, just accuracy and wile & guile was better by English spinners.

[Tibarn]

5 hours ago, Singh bling said:

Sangakarra was finished in 2015 , that was last leg of his career. Rest of lankan team hardly had any good players of spin

I mean he averaged over 70 in 2014 and averaged over 40 in 2015, despite Ashwin destroying him, including a double century in Wellington, but fair enough about the other Lankans. 

Edited November 13, 2016 by Tibarn

[Laaloo]

1 hour ago, fineleg said:

On day 3 , 4 and 5 - the England spinners showed more wile and guile than Indian spinners. That's the concern. Not just wickets, just accuracy and wile & guile was better by English spinners.

Day 4 after tea yes we bowled really disappointing because england only had a 50 run lead. Day 5 can be excused for the reasons: we were bowling defensive on purpose, slow down the rr, get some time off etc. 

 

Let's wait till 2 more tests before we start writing eulogies for Ashwins career. This is the same guy who dominated Williamson one of the best players in the world just a month ago. 

Edited November 13, 2016 by laaloo

[Texan]

Ashwin is more a batting allrounder than a bowling allrounder when we play England. 

[Vilander]

they are a rubbish side, they are going to get schooled next game.

[fineleg]

3 hours ago, Vilander said:

they are a rubbish side, they are going to get schooled next game.

LOL, are you saying England is a rubbish side?

[express bowling]

This pitch had quite a bit of turn and bounce on the 4th and 5th day. 

 

The English spinners looked dangerous during that time.

 

Why did our spinners look so fang-less during those 2 days  ?

[Vilander]

7 hours ago, fineleg said:

LOL, are you saying England is a rubbish side?

yup, you have a problem ?

[fineleg]

Yea, they are not rubbish at all. Very good side.

[Vilander]

34 minutes ago, fineleg said:

Yea, they are not rubbish at all. Very good side.

we will see in the next track.

On 11/12/2016 at 8:05 AM, WC2011INDIA said:

Rashid and other guy have out bowled our spinners so it isn't exactly DEAD. Just that you need to be genuinely good to get wickets on such surface. That and need to plan against English batting line-up which no one seems to have done due to Diwali celebrations and what not.

 

 

what is genuinely good ?

[Vilander]

On 11/13/2016 at 7:04 AM, mancalledsting said:

England can't play spin well- see last match against Bangladesh. Wicket was flat, England had best of batting conditions and we dropped many catches. Also, we have injuries to Bhuvi, Rahul and Rohit. 

guess we just have to wait till a true sc pitch shows up, not some sissy wannabe aussie wicket.