Is England Ashwin's bogey team?

[Texan]

His bowling average at home against different teams:

 

v Aus: 20.10 (4 Tests)

v Eng: 56.50 (5 Tests)

v NZ : 15.91 (5 Tests)

vs SA : 11.12 (4 Tests)

vs WI : 21.64 (5 Tests)

 

Have England sorted him out or does Ashwin still have an ace up his sleeve that he can use in this series? The first innings in Rajkot did not improve his record one bit.

[G_B_]

was just going to make this thread....

 

We seem to have to measure of SA and Aus (even performances away have been better) but England is just for some reason out of reach.

 

 

[gattaca]

Have seen highlights of young spinner running through English batsman. Ashwin is good give him sometime before making assumptions. Pitch was also flat.

[sandeep]

I'm hoping our captain and vice captain do their jobs and give Ashwin a chance to win this on D5.  If we get a 50 run lead, chances of him doing so are pretty good.  But odds of us getting that 50 run lead are not as good.  

[cric_fan]

Nah, pitch is dead = Ashwin useless

[WC2011INDIA]

12 minutes ago, cric_fan said:

Nah, pitch is dead = Ashwin useless

Rashid and other guy have out bowled our spinners so it isn't exactly DEAD. Just that you need to be genuinely good to get wickets on such surface. That and need to plan against English batting line-up which no one seems to have done due to Diwali celebrations and what not.

 

 

[chewy]

More like England is boogie team for India

[cric_fan]

Rashid and other guy have out bowled our spinners so it isn't exactly DEAD. Just that you need to be genuinely good to get wickets on such surface. That and need to plan against English batting line-up which no one seems to have done due to Diwali celebrations and what not.

 

 

LOL@ Diwali excuse!!

C'mon man that is poor

[fineleg]

Day-1 pitch Ashwin and Mishra have an excuse.

Now Day-4 pitch, after England spinners have done reasonably well. And even on last session of Day-4, Ashwin, Jadeja and Mishra are not able to get wickets, this is England spinners doing better than our spinners on Indian pitch (Day3/4).

[fineleg]

Can R. Ashwin, Jadeja and Mishra not even outfox a 19-year old batsman playing on debut on a Day-4 Indian pitch? He is batting on a comfortable 60+ going into day-5.

[Singh bling]

Ashwin is very good on spinning wickets and against Batsmen which are not so good against spin. He is not so good when pitch is  not helping and Batsmen are decent player of spin

[Texan]

41 minutes ago, fineleg said:

Day-1 pitch Ashwin and Mishra have an excuse.

Now Day-4 pitch, after England spinners have done reasonably well. And even on last session of Day-4, Ashwin, Jadeja and Mishra are not able to get wickets, this is England spinners doing better than our spinners on Indian pitch (Day3/4).

This is 2012 all over again. Somehow it seems to me that England have solved the Ashwin riddle. 

[fineleg]

12 minutes ago, Singh bling said:

Ashwin is very good on spinning wickets and against Batsmen which are not so good against spin. He is not so good when pitch is  not helping and Batsmen are decent player of spin

Has Ashwin taken wickets (on non-designer pitches) of batsmen who are good players of spin ? I think he has, but I want to recollect the names.

Edited November 12, 2016 by fineleg

[Lannister]

Not just to Ashwin, to whole Indian team. Our players get uncomfortable seeing their discipline on the field. 

[kubrickian]

This pitch is flat as a pancake. He will destroy Eng in the rest of the matches. 

[Adi_91]

I am confused with this performance stat against England. I thought England is after all the most vulnerable to spin.

[WC2011INDIA]

3 hours ago, cric_fan said:

 

 

LOL@ Diwali excuse!!

C'mon man that is poor

That's the point. Indian management and team is poor. No forward planning. Couple of days off and they probably didnt bother to discuss much. 

[Laaloo]

Yeah bad precedent to set in the first test. Hopefully he can stop bowling his middle and leg stump line. That is more annoying to be honest.

[vayuu1]

This is 2012 all over again. Somehow it seems to me that England have solved the Ashwin riddle. 

The reason is ,he doesn't put revs behind his bowling and is bowling slower through air same with mishra, you need to put your body behind every delivery, also needs to bowl at quicker pace, a pace of 75-85 kph is good against players who don't use feet against spin, but guys like root, cook, Ali, will use their feet , so need to be atleast 10 kph quicker, also need to attack an area outside off stump a bit more, with all fielders inside the ring, the English spinners, have all been on quicker side, hopefully kohli and Co realise it early, I think all those easy wickets have made ashwin and mishra even the whole Indian team relaxed, may be they realise that, u cannot take this English team for granted, also these guys have experience of playing 5 test match series on regular basis, so you have to be on ur toes all time.

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[fineleg]

3 hours ago, Adi_91 said:

I am confused with this performance stat against England. I thought England is after all the most vulnerable to spin.

You are talking about England team some years ago. This England team can play spin.