Muloghonto Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Captain said: Weak? That's a first. All my life, all i've heard is that i'm way too angry and way too aggressive. My religious family even used to tell me to pray to god to reduce my aggression. Anyway, have you ever been to Bengal? The idiots in that state can't even identify an existential threat that's growing among them. Too many spineless liberal Hindus who believe that the Muslims will be as inclusive as them. The Islamic population is about 30% there i believe. You need to acknowledge that there's a threat first to fight it. The Bengalis haven't even acknowledged it till now at least in large scale. Arriving at a logical conclusion after seeing the facts doesn't make one weak. First off, this is the historical weakness of Indian mindset - we don't fight up-hill socio-political battles. if a region falls to outsiders/muslims, we retreat to deeper hindu lands and draw perimeter there. Thats how we went from eastern Afghanistan = start of India to Beas river = start of India. And lets say you are correct. Bongs are morons ( i am one, i am from Kolkata, so i know wtf is up there). Lets say we cant help ourselves, we are too messed up. Last i checked, we are still part of India. What are REST of India going to do about it ? Continue weak Indian tradition of 'withdraw & regroup for new perimeter in hindu dominated lands' or help out ? Bengal is not just a Bengali problem. its an India problem. And if India doesn't see it that way, well, then its matter of time before India is no longer relevant and UP becomes UP problem, TN becomes TN problem etc etc. Tibarn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: First off, this is the historical weakness of Indian mindset - we don't fight up-hill socio-political battles. if a region falls to outsiders/muslims, we retreat to deeper hindu lands and draw perimeter there. Thats how we went from eastern Afghanistan = start of India to Beas river = start of India. And lets say you are correct. Bongs are morons ( i am one, i am from Kolkata, so i know wtf is up there). Lets say we cant help ourselves, we are too messed up. Last i checked, we are still part of India. What are REST of India going to do about it ? Continue weak Indian tradition of 'withdraw & regroup for new perimeter in hindu dominated lands' or help out ? Bengal is not just a Bengali problem. its an India problem. And if India doesn't see it that way, well, then its matter of time before India is no longer relevant and UP becomes UP problem, TN becomes TN problem etc etc. The Mainstream media will continue to say "All is well" and will continue to cover up any atrocities committed by people belonging to a certain religion. Just look at the twitter hashtags doing the rounds today after the Pak PM announced the release of our wing commander. We have way too many sheep among us and the media will continue to keep them that way. The vast majority of the general population will continue to be idiots until things are too late. I've always believed that the naive liberal Hindus are the number one threat to India even more so than extremist Muslims. Unless until the Mainstream media wakes up, i truly don't see how Bengal can come back from it's current situation. More than 285 out of 295 assembly seats were won by left leaning parties in Bengal. That's just a scary thing to see. So, you are a Bong. What's the general opinion about the recent Didi drama with the CBI officials? Are your fellow Hindus even aware of the mess they are getting themselves into? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Captain said: The Mainstream media will continue to say "All is well" and will continue to cover up any atrocities committed by people belonging to a certain religion. Just look at the twitter hashtags doing the rounds today after the Pak PM announced the release of our wing commander. We have way too many sheep among us and the media will continue to keep them that way. The vast majority of the general population will continue to be idiots until things are too late. I've always believed that the naive liberal Hindus are the number one threat to India even more so than extremist Muslims. Unless until the Mainstream media wakes up, i truly don't see how Bengal can come back from it's current situation. More than 285 out of 295 assembly seats were won by left leaning parties in Bengal. That's just a scary thing to see. LOL. What weak excuses. A center who cannot reign in turmoil or prevent its provinces from rotting away does not deserve to be the center. If GoI is so weak that it must rely on media opinion and trying to win in a rigged state election system instead of using its clandestine operation arm to achieve its goals, then GoI's days are numbered. Quote So, you are a Bong. What's the general opinion about the recent Didi drama with the CBI officials? Are your fellow Hindus even aware of the mess they are getting themselves into? Bongs are half in Didi's corner, half in BJP's corner but there is way too much vote rigging in elections for the non-didi half to be heard. Didi's power is increasing because Modi is a coward when it comes to regional political shenanigans. When he sent CBI to investigate Kolkata Police Chief and Mamata, she used the local police chief to throw them out and BJP ran away with tail between its legs. PS: Trinamool is not left-leaning. They are a splinter from the INC who have managed to corner the muslim vote & taken over some of the leftist corruption vote systems in the Bardhaman & coal mining regions. Edited February 28, 2019 by Muloghonto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Muloghonto said: LOL. What weak excuses. A center who cannot reign in turmoil or prevent its provinces from rotting away does not deserve to be the center. If GoI is so weak that it must rely on media opinion and trying to win in a rigged state election system instead of using its clandestine operation arm to achieve its goals, then GoI's days are numbered. Bongs are half in Didi's corner, half in BJP's corner but there is way too much vote rigging in elections for the non-didi half to be heard. Didi's power is increasing because Modi is a coward when it comes to regional political shenanigans. When he sent CBI to investigate Kolkata Police Chief and Mamata, she used the local police chief to throw them out and BJP ran away with tail between its legs. Clearly you have no idea of how powerful the media is. 80-90% of the general population will eat up what the media says without questioning them. They are experts in managing the mood of the sheep for their own selfish interests. There's a reason why they say "A pen is more powerful than a gun". Unless until the general public starts to hold the media accountable for spreading propaganda, there's nothing even a strong Government can do. If the Government takes a strong action against a community, the media will step in and paint the Government as tyrants and the sheep among us will sympathize with the affected community and will vote the government out of power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Captain said: Clearly you have no idea of how powerful the media is. 80-90% of the general population will eat up what the media says without questioning them. They are experts in managing the mood of the sheep for their own selfish interests. Any central government that bows to media pressure and let part of its country rot is a spineless one and doesn't deserve to be there. When push comes to shove, Americans, Russians, Chinese - they dont bow to their media but bends it to their will. 2 minutes ago, Captain said: There's a reason why they say "A pen is more powerful than a gun". Unless until the general public starts to hold the media accountable for spreading propaganda, there's nothing even a strong Government can do. You clearly have no idea on how the governments of last century USA or Russia hunted down and eliminated 'threats' amongst its midst re: commies and capitalists with or without media support. 2 minutes ago, Captain said: If the Government takes a strong action against a community, the media will step in and paint the Government as tyrants and the sheep among us will sympathize with the affected community and will vote the government out of power. Government doesn't need to take strong action against a community. They need to neutralize the political threats presented by said community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Muloghonto said: When push comes to shove, Americans, Russians, Chinese - they dont bow to their media but bends it to their will. You clearly have no idea on how the governments of last century USA or Russia hunted down and eliminated 'threats' amongst its midst re: commies and capitalists with or without media support. Russia and China are not great examples to compare with India. A communist state which has monopoly over their national media can do whatever it wants. As for the US, while they were ruthless in the past, their current situation is not too rosy. I can see the next generation embracing socialism and with all the support the Democratic party enjoys from their media (even worse than our media imo) there'll be chaos in the coming future. Also, in this era of social media, a government elected in a democratic country is walking on broken glass. They don't have the freedom to be ruthless like in the past where the national media could be managed on issues relating to national security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Captain said: Russia and China are not great examples to compare with India. A communist state which has monopoly over their national media can do whatever it wants. As for the US, while they were ruthless in the past, their current situation is not too rosy. I can see the next generation embracing socialism and with all the support the Democratic party enjoys from their media (even worse than our media imo) there'll be chaos in the coming future. Also, in this era of social media, a government elected in a democratic country is walking on broken glass. They don't have the freedom to be ruthless like in the past where the national media could be managed on issues relating to national security. False. A government with access to intelligence agents, agencies and resources simply needs the will to neutralize malcontents within. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, Muloghonto said: False. A government with access to intelligence agents, agencies and resources simply needs the will to neutralize malcontents within. The very same intelligence agencies which will be told to abandon their efforts when Congress comes to power. If the BJP stays in power for a long period of time, what you said can come to fruition. But, as you know that situation is extremely unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Captain said: The very same intelligence agencies which will be told to abandon their efforts when Congress comes to power. If the BJP stays in power for a long period of time, what you said can come to fruition. But, as you know that situation is extremely unlikely. They've been long enough in power to do something. years upon years is long enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, Muloghonto said: They've been long enough in power to do something. years upon years is long enough. Operations via Intelligence agencies can take decades. The BJP has been in power for a mere 5 years. Even the likes of CIA need decades to get certain things done. The only saving grace is that people seem to be realizing what's going on in our country. I just hope that BJP and Modi in particular stay in power for at least 2 more terms to bring about a noticeable change in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 19 minutes ago, Captain said: Operations via Intelligence agencies can take decades. False. Operation to identify and neutralize troublesome (read: hard to prosecute) commies in USA took just weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) Swami Vivekananda, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa Rabindranath Tagore....and then... Jihadi didi.. Edited March 7, 2019 by coffee_rules Stradlater, Laaloo, mishra and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHONI_FANN Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 https://m.timesofindia.com/city/kolkata/set-on-fire-bengal-woman-grabs-rapist-kills-him/articleshow/68279724.cms?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=TOI&utm_content=om-bm The rapist was Sheikh Jabbar are the lady was a hindu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtmohanlal Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 if the central government doesn't become stubborn in their actions , not at all a surprise that Bengal too would become a mini Pakistan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 10 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Swami Vivekananda, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa Rabindranath Tagore....and then... Jihadi didi.. I do not see Mother Teressa? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 10 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Swami Vivekananda, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa Rabindranath Tagore....and then... Jihadi didi.. What happened to the post independence period from 1940s to 2000's? No one worthy of being in that wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 LOL no Satyajit Ray, no SD/RD Burman, no Kishore Da, no Mrinal Sen...but we have Jihadi Didi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtmohanlal Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 On 3/1/2019 at 5:07 AM, Captain said: The very same intelligence agencies which will be told to abandon their efforts when Congress comes to power. If the BJP stays in power for a long period of time, what you said can come to fruition. But, as you know that situation is extremely unlikely. isn't 5 years not enough to take vital decisions on crucial security matters???? This is a very naive argument.... Modi needs to be ruthless .That has been all that needed to done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 On 12/26/2016 at 8:54 PM, Texy said: Bengalis in general w/ few exceptions, become Hindu once or twice a year during festivals and that's also because food is involved. Rest of the year forget it. Being a Hindu of that kind myself, Bengalis are my favourite kind of Hindu. If every Hindu, and in fact people of every religion were like that, the world would be a much better place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texy Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 On 3/7/2019 at 11:43 PM, diga said: What happened to the post independence period from 1940s to 2000's? No one worthy of being in that wall migrated to phoren land for better opportunity. Bengal had a major brain drain... only bottom of the pit left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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