kira Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 View overall figures [change view] Trophy ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) Totals in terms of batting team Ordered by win/loss ratio (descending) Overall figures Team Span Mat Won Lost Tied NR W/L Ave RPO Inns HS LS India 1998-2013 24 15 6 0 3 2.500 39.20 5.37 23 331 200 Australia 1998-2013 21 12 7 0 2 1.714 34.35 5.04 21 296 162 New Zealand 1998-2013 21 12 8 0 1 1.500 28.00 4.87 21 347 132 Sri Lanka 1998-2013 24 13 9 0 2 1.444 32.01 5.01 24 319 132 West Indies 1998-2013 24 13 10 1 0 1.300 30.44 4.82 24 289 80 South Africa 1998-2013 21 11 9 1 0 1.222 32.67 5.22 21 316 108 England 1998-2013 21 11 10 0 0 1.100 31.21 5.19 21 323 125 Pakistan 1998-2013 18 7 11 0 0 0.636 25.13 4.57 18 302 89 Bangladesh 2000-2006 8 1 7 0 0 0.142 18.06 3.96 8 265 77 Netherlands 2002-2002 2 0 2 0 0 0.000 11.10 2.79 2 136 86 U.S.A. 2004-2004 2 0 2 0 0 0.000 10.10 3.03 2 137 65 Kenya 2000-2004 5 0 5 0 0 0.000 18.82 3.79 5 232 94 Zimbabwe 1998-2006 9 0 9 0 0 0.000 19.25 4.08 9 274 85 India's win/loss ratio beetle, velu, OpeningBatsman and 5 others 8 Link to comment
sandeep Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Makes me think of the law of averages, given the "experienced" team we are sending this time around. Link to comment
Laaloo Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 We should have won against Lanka. Freaking both matches were washed out and in one match Sehwag had like 3-4 boundaries in one over. SLICKR392, AuxiliA, Ultimate_Game and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Zero_Unit Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Look at NZ and their win ration. That's pretty good for a team that never won it. Link to comment
kira Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Zero_Unit said: Look at NZ and their win ration. That's pretty good for a team that never won it. NZ have won the champion trophy by beating India in the final DDfan2017 1 Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 The CT results are on the expected lines After all big boys show up in big games and high profile tourneys JaFanatic 1 Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Zero_Unit said: Look at NZ and their win ration. That's pretty good for a team that never won it. NZ beat Ganguly's team in the final We should've won that one easily but imploded with both bat and the ball. While batting we had a great opening partnership and then collapsed. While bowling we had NZ on the ropes at 130 odd for 5 and couldn't get it done. That was one of the 9 finals we lost on the trot sscomp32 1 Link to comment
sandeep Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Kiwis upset us in the first one, and we wuz robbed in SL - totally dominated the tournament and the final. Ultimate_Game, sscomp32 and Laaloo 3 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Ultimate_Game said: NZ beat Ganguly's team in the final We should've won that one easily but imploded with both bat and the ball. While batting we had a great opening partnership and then collapsed. While bowling we had NZ on the ropes at 130 odd for 5 and couldn't get it done. That was one of the 9 finals we lost on the trot Under ganguly finals men hume saanp sungh jata tha....... It was annoying how we use to loose final after final after dominating whole tournaments to sometimes sscomp32, Ultimate_Game and sandeep 3 Link to comment
sandeep Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Under ganguly finals men hume saanp sungh jata tha....... It was annoying how we use to loose final after final after dominating whole tournaments to sometimes You'll still see one-eyed fans sing praises of how "dada" turned things around for us and is even better at Captaincy than Dhoni. Ordinary Captain when it came to tactics and strategy. Had his pluses too, no disputing that. Ultimate_Game, sscomp32, Shunya and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, sandeep said: You'll still see one-eyed fans sing praises of how "dada" turned things around for us and is even better at Captaincy than Dhoni. Ordinary Captain when it came to tactics and strategy. Had his pluses too, no disputing that. Yea there are many on both sides I beileve every captains job is to take team to next level which ganguly dravid dhoni n now kohli are doing. Whole comparing each other is personal fulfillment . About turning things around, credit to ganguly yes. But we were at all time low so the only way was up. Not taking credit away but then why taking credit away from anyone who contributed be it even dravid kumble or dhoni They all had their share of flaws . But there shudnt be a doubt that dhoni was the best odi captain. Test captaincy can be debatable with many options. JaFanatic and Shunya 2 Link to comment
sandeep Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Yea there are many on both sides I beileve every captains job is to take team to next level which ganguly dravid dhoni n now kohli are doing. Whole comparing each other is personal fulfillment . About turning things around, credit to ganguly yes. But we were at all time low so the only way was up. Not taking credit away but then why taking credit away from anyone who contributed be it even dravid kumble or dhoni They all had their share of flaws . But there shudnt be a doubt that dhoni was the best odi captain. Test captaincy can be debatable with many options. Dhoni was a very ordinary test captain. I think Kumble was probably the best since Gavaskar - but we weren't the most competitive side in Sunny's time. VK has shown flashes of goodness, and is still learning - and has a young side full of potential - he's got a legit shot at setting the overseas records right. As long as injuries stay away. Lannister 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 25 minutes ago, sandeep said: Dhoni was a very ordinary test captain. I think Kumble was probably the best since Gavaskar - but we weren't the most competitive side in Sunny's time. VK has shown flashes of goodness, and is still learning - and has a young side full of potential - he's got a legit shot at setting the overseas records right. As long as injuries stay away. I liked dravid a lil more then others, just felt he suffered due to a disturbed dressing room enviorment. Yes but kohli could be the best, would have been gr8 helo if he had someone more experienced by his side. Tactically he still is quite avg but a leader in every other sense . I feel he could be really be helped by someone like mahela n zaheer as batting n bowling coaches who could also be gr8 help tactically to him. Dhoni got both sides of coins best team at start and then all of them at the end of their career as well. He wasnt a gr8 test player that he cud ride team with his perfomances which he did in odis . Ultimately a good captain needs a good side. JaFanatic 1 Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Under ganguly finals men hume saanp sungh jata tha....... It was annoying how we use to loose final after final after dominating whole tournaments to sometimes True that. The team used to be in panic mode when playing finals. They used to dominate the opponents and then it seemed as if a different India team used to be there in the finals against the very same opponents India had beaten earlier! Recall us dismissed for 54 against SL in yet another final. That was one of the most humiliating losses I've endured as an India fan. JaFanatic 1 Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 hours ago, sandeep said: You'll still see one-eyed fans sing praises of how "dada" turned things around for us and is even better at Captaincy than Dhoni. Ordinary Captain when it came to tactics and strategy. Had his pluses too, no disputing that. Ganguly was one of the best captains he had. He was the one who instilled fighting spirit and "never back down" ethos in the Indian team. However he was a much better Test captain than the odi one. Somehow he struggled in the big games, especially in the finals. It always seemed he and Indian team were in panic mode and one push and they would fall over, which is what used to happen. DDfan2017 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 This team will cost some games. Why dont we send Gavaskar as he has the most experience. Ultimate_Game and JaFanatic 2 Link to comment
Vilander Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) inspite of loosing just 6 games we lost 2 to pak, inspite of having a 2.5 win ratio we have a 1-2 loosing ratio with pak. we have struggled against pak in CT because of lack of proper prep. India can not beat Eng or for that matter Aus this time, even WI is difficult.Pak should be easy. Edited May 20, 2017 by Vilander Link to comment
Zero_Unit Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 12 hours ago, kira said: NZ have won the champion trophy by beating India in the final never knew they actually won one. That's great! Link to comment
sandeep Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 13 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said: Ganguly was one of the best captains he had. He was the one who instilled fighting spirit and "never back down" ethos in the Indian team. However he was a much better Test captain than the odi one. Somehow he struggled in the big games, especially in the finals. It always seemed he and Indian team were in panic mode and one push and they would fall over, which is what used to happen. He definitely brought that spirit to the side. But let's not glorify his test captaincy too much - I can accept he's better than Dhoni in tests, but I used to get extremely frustrated with his bowling changes and fielding tactics. There's a reason we have a horrible history and habit of letting the last 5 wickets run away with the game. Gangu was a repeat offender on this. Countless examples of tactical ineptitude. Ankit_sharma03 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, sandeep said: He definitely brought that spirit to the side. But let's not glorify his test captaincy too much - I can accept he's better than Dhoni in tests, but I used to get extremely frustrated with his bowling changes and fielding tactics. There's a reason we have a horrible history and habit of letting the last 5 wickets run away with the game. Gangu was a repeat offender on this. Countless examples of tactical ineptitude. He wanted to make yuvraj singh an opener and he disturbed chopra n sehwag pair his declarations in sydney n kolkata against australia was quite late, he was saved in kolkata Time n again Zaheer nehra use to comeback n play from injuries either without completely recovering or without any match practice Yup he is way to glorified Ultimate_Game and sscomp32 2 Link to comment
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