cowboysfan Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 ICC issued a a host of new laws and most of them were obvious and good but this is really the dumbest in all of sports.Surely its incumbent on the Batsman to keep track of the ball,if he is not watching the ball then he is not doing his job.There was absolutely no reason to introduce this law and nobody was clamoring for this.Here is it being implemented for the first time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g0NGVId9fg sourab10forever 1 Link to comment
MCcricket Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 37 minutes ago, cowboysfan said: ICC issued a a host of new laws and most of them were obvious and good but this is really the dumbest in all of sports.Surely its incumbent on the Batsman to keep track of the ball,if he is not watching the ball then he is not doing his job.There was absolutely no reason to introduce this law and nobody was clamoring for this.Here is it being implemented for the first time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g0NGVId9fg Yes it seems stupid, have to look at it from batting teams perspective Link to comment
Texan Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Agree. Batsmen need to track the ball and not the fielder's behavior. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 The part where fielder seems to throw the ball, but doesn't certainly doesn't look good. It's like you're saving runs based on your acting skills. Since fielder is running towards the ball, it's difficult to say that batsman should track ball. Batsman can easily lose sight of ball if it has gone past fielder causing confusion. A fielder may earn wicket not on basis of his cricketing skill but acting skill. But all this doesn't happen much and it seems like forced law. The part where it says that fielder pretends to throw the ball and doesn't throw even after collecting is more ridiculous. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 14 minutes ago, MultiB48 said: many runs and wickets happen due to luck and many times good balls and shots dont fetch results,may be you will ban those as well,may be batsmen faking to take a single provoking a throw should be banned or a pacer acting to bowl a quicker ball bowls a slower should be banned,batsmen moving around in the crease looking to play one shot plays another should be banned ...... At least those are part of cricket, acting isn't. Pacer bowling slower one involves a cricketing skill and is challenging to do. It's not easy to bowl a slower one. Batsman moving around the crease again is risky for batsman and it's requires skill to still play the ball on the move. However, if you miss the ball or don't field the ball at all, like Raina did once and pretend to throw, it is nothing but pure acting skill. There is no cricketing challenge for fielder in this. This scenario shouldn't acceptable. However it doesn't happen regularly and it is unnecessary rule. There is another scenario when fielder gets hold of the ball and pretends to throw but doesn't. This should always be allowed. Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Looking at the cheat Sangakarra - I like the new law. Sanga could have caused serious injury to Shehzad with his fake fielding ... He doesn't look pleased. OTOH, if it is Shehzad .. Laaloo 1 Link to comment
Forever Indian Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 21 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Looking at the cheat Sangakarra - I like the new law. Sanga could have caused serious injury to Shehzad with his fake fielding ... He doesn't look pleased. OTOH, if it is Shehzad .. Lol, regardless of Sanga being a cheat. This was a hilarious troll by him Link to comment
beetle Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Sanga the cheat I guess they are sending the little boys inside these men packing home. Spoilsports! Link to comment
flamy Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Geeeeeeeeeez! Dumb rule. I love both the vids posted, and LOVE Sanga's troll. Hahaha, sly. LIKE. Link to comment
PBN Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 unnecessary rule. even dhoni used some subtle tricks. pretending that the ball was wayward or not near the stumps and the batsman taking it easy Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 9 hours ago, MultiB48 said: then batsmen who dont walk should be banned, bowlers and fielders who appeal when it is not out should be banned. 1. Batsman can make mistake by walking. SRT once walked after gloving a ball down the leg to keeper against WI. By rules he wasn't out as his hands were off the bat when he gloved he ball. It can't be said that batsman has to walk always. Dravid didn't review while batting in England as he thought he edged the ball, when ball had actually hit his shoelace. Nowadays no ball is checked in almost all close cases and we see so many wickets on no ball. 2. Bowlers aren't again ultimate judge to decide whether batsman is out or not. Their job is to appeal. Broad used to miss appeals multiple times back in 2011-13. In the end, it's part of decision making and umpire is the person who has to decide that. In age of DRS, this is now not even called cheating. On the other hand, fake fielding is part of the events when ball is in play and it is one thing where fielders get advantage of their non-cricketing skill. Check the video of Sanga, this should clearly be avoided. It is pure acting skill and nothing else. sarcastic 1 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 23 minutes ago, MultiB48 said: fake fieding is rare and most of the time it fails to get a wicket or stop runs ,more often it is people who dontwalk or appeal when it is not out that get the decision in their favor using "non cricketing " skills.even batsmen pretending to run provoke a silly throw from the fielder and gets a overthrow in the process is more common place than fake fielding. That's why I said that brining this law seems to be forced one. Unless it was common occurence with clear impact on game, this matter should not have been touched. Appealing is legitimate part of the game. I think recently a law was introduced that if a bowler doesn't appeal, umpire can't give batsman out. So it make sense for bowler to appeal every close decision. Over appealing is penalised in cricket too. We have seen that in past, Ganguly was one example. Not sure if there is still a provision or not. So there is control on this aspect too. Batsman not walking shouldn't affect umpire and they shouldn't get favor from it at least now with DRS. Batsman not walking after umpire decision is certainly noticed by referee. Technically a batsman shouldn't walk as he make a mistake in judging whether he is out or not. Umpiire is the person to decide that. What if it's a no ball and umpire doesn't go to third umpire as batsman has already walked. How many times we see that batsman is given out and they don't review to only to find that they weren't out later. That happens even when reviews are left, just because batsman think they are out and fail to judge it correctly. Walking and not walking was an issue before DRS, but not anymore. These cases are not comparable to fake fielding which can't be called legit part of cricket. But yeah, it's not common and preventing it was unnecessary. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, MultiB48 said: it was fun to watch ,most of the time nothing really happens in a game ,occasional brilliance or little tricks are what makes things memorable. Yes, unless it was really affecting the game on bigger scale, there was no need for such law. Wonder who proposed it. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Dumbest law. I used to do it all the time on field and now I won’t be able to. If batsmen can move why can’t fielders do some fake action. Its actually the presence of mind more than being fake. Most pathetic rule ICC could come up with. cowboysfan 1 Link to comment
Texan Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 https://sports.ndtv.com/india-vs-australia-2017-18/iccs-new-rule-can-get-mahendra-singh-dhoni-penalised-1759023?pfrom=home-mostviewedblogposts ICC's New Rule Can Get Mahendra Singh Dhoni Penalised Dhoni may get penalised under the "fake fielding" law, which was recently instituted by the ICC. Link to comment
Texan Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 What next? Penalize fielders who fake throwing down the stumps, but don't actually throw? Link to comment
Sean Bradley Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Smartness on Cricket field succumbed to the Spirit of the Game ! Link to comment
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