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9 hours ago, Bilal78 said:

 

Who are India’s top 5 bowlers in domestics excluding Bumrah, Shami, Yadav, Ishant, Bhuvneshwar.

 

 

 

In terms of  "near national team selection "   ... that is playing for A-teams 

 

5-day games -  Saini, Shardul, Siraj , Rajpoot, Aniket

 

50-over games - Shardul, Kaul ( trundler ), Thampi, Siraj, 

 

 

Uncapped pacers who are quick and doing well.

 

5-day games -  Saini, Nathu, Nagarkoti.

 

50-over games - Nagarkoti, Khaleel, Khejroliya, Thampi, Avesh, Nathu, Siraj, Sangwan, Mavi, 

 

 

Swing bowler -  Gurbani

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3 hours ago, express bowling said:

Saini 4th over

 

140 k  good bouncer

142 k  seams in 

141 k

138 k good outswinger play and miss

136 k channel ball

136 k  channel ball

 

4th maiden on the trot

 

needs to be more consistent with the outswinger ...has a bit too scrambled seam

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11 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Very happy to see Saini in the test team.

 

Deserves it thoroughly.

 

He should be in the playing 11.

 

Then our team management will know where he stands as a test bowler ... and whether he can be played in England.

i am afraid Thakur is ahead of him in pecking order - do not like this.  its bad that Saini did not get any play in IPL as well. 

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1 hour ago, Vilander said:

i am afraid Thakur is ahead of him in pecking order - do not like this.  its bad that Saini did not get any play in IPL as well. 

 

Shardul will probably get the nod ahead of Saini  ...  but Saini is miles ahead of Shardul as a test prospect.

 

I hope the pecking order is broken.

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On 3/17/2018 at 1:28 PM, express bowling said:

 

 

In terms of  "near national team selection "   ... that is playing for A-teams 

 

5-day games -  Saini, Shardul, Siraj , Rajpoot, Aniket

 

50-over games - Shardul, Kaul ( trundler ), Thampi, Siraj, 

 

 

Uncapped pacers who are quick and doing well.

 

5-day games -  Saini, Nathu, Nagarkoti.

 

50-over games - Nagarkoti, Khaleel, Khejroliya, Thampi, Avesh, Nathu, Siraj, Sangwan, Mavi, 

 

 

Swing bowler -  Gurbani

are u guys saying that Avesh Khan is no where, he was flown to africa to bowl in Nets, that shows he is in the race as well some where.

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43 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

are u guys saying that Avesh Khan is no where, he was flown to africa to bowl in Nets, that shows he is in the race as well some where.

 

Avesh is in that list. Check again.

 

But, it had been decided by the selectors that most selections to Team India will be via our A-team.   That means Avesh is being considered as a prospect ( as he was flown to SA )  but not  "  near national team selection " as he is not in our A-teams yet. 

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We got to see Saini's bowling again today in the Quadrangular A-team tournament final.

 

--  Bowled in great areas most of the time. Just 3 or 4 loose deliveries in 9 overs.

--  Bowled at a high pace.

--  Got a lot of bounce and carry from good length deliveries.

--  Got consistent inswing and seamed the ball both ways.

 

8.5 - 0 - 33 - 2  in the final match.

 

Very impressive  !

 

 

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Saini has looked like a mature and effective bowler every time we have seen him bowl in the last year.

 

Ranji semi final 

Ranji final 

Quadrangular final

 

Bowled really well on all 3 occasions.

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31 minutes ago, Unleashed said:

Personally I think we need a left armer pace bowler more right now. We've enough depth in right armers as of now. Khaleel Ahmed has been decent for India A.

 

Bumrah and Bhuvi are the only 2 established pacers in our ODI team.  And even Bhuvi has a low wickets per match ratio in ODIs.

 

We can easily add 2 new pacers to our ODI squad ... along with Bumrah and Bhuvi ... and rotate them.

 

It is possible for us to include both Khaleel and Saini.

 

Although, watching just 9 overs does not give a full idea about the ODI skills of a bowler.  I don't know much about Saini's death bowling skills in ODIs.

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1 minute ago, Suhaan said:

Khaleel is a terrific prospect has variations and express pace

Khaleel is not express yet but has good pace for his age.  Still only 21.  Express are Mavi and Nagarkoti.  Even Saini bowled some real pace today.  At times, ball was flying through to the keeper on a slowish pitch.

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15 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Bumrah and Bhuvi are the only 2 established pacers in our ODI team.  And even Bhuvi has a low wickets per match ratio in ODIs.

 

We can easily add 2 new pacers to our ODI squad ... along with Bumrah and Bhuvi ... and rotate them.

 

It is possible for us to include both Khaleel and Saini.

 

Although, watching just 9 overs does not give a full idea about the ODI skills of a bowler.  I don't know much about Saini's death bowling skills in ODIs.

Yeah, agreed. I was just saying that with the likes of Prasidh Krishna, Mavi, Nagarkoti, we've quite a few very good right arm pace bowlers, but apart from Khaleel, I can't remember any good left armer right now apart from Khejroliya who's just mediocre. It'll be good to have a variety of a left armer.

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55 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Khaleel is not express yet but has good pace for his age.  Still only 21.  Express are Mavi and Nagarkoti.  Even Saini bowled some real pace today.  At times, ball was flying through to the keeper on a slowish pitch.

      Not much talked about Mavi,s pace in the last game. He clocked nearly 60% of deliveries above 140+.  None of other had such high %. Highest I saw 143. So if we add 4-5 km ,he was bowling 145. Great for 20 year old prospect. Lambi Race ka Ghoda....  Him & Gill.

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1 hour ago, prudent_kreeda said:

      Not much talked about Mavi,s pace in the last game. He clocked nearly 60% of deliveries above 140+.  None of other had such high %. Highest I saw 143. So if we add 4-5 km ,he was bowling 145. Great for 20 year old prospect. Lambi Race ka Ghoda....  Him & Gill.

Actually mavi is 19 and koti is 18 and koti is quicker 

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1 hour ago, prudent_kreeda said:

      Not much talked about Mavi,s pace in the last game. He clocked nearly 60% of deliveries above 140+.  None of other had such high %. Highest I saw 143. So if we add 4-5 km ,he was bowling 145. Great for 20 year old prospect. Lambi Race ka Ghoda....  Him & Gill.

How tall is he? 

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9 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Even Saini bowled some real pace today.  At times, ball was flying through to the keeper on a slowish pitch.

 

Atleast In 4 day games, and perhaps in the first 40 overs in ODIs ... Saini is perhaps one of the most accurate pacers among all the pacers in the India Senior and India-A teams. ( along with Bumrah and Bhuvi ).

 

I am surprised that he has not carried his Ranji Trophy form to the Unofficial tests in 2018 ... although he was very economical and maintained pressure from his end.

 

I hope he does really well in the upcoming Unofficial tests against Australia in a few days.

 

We can really benefit from an accurate genuine fast bowler like Saini, who gets both bounce snd movement.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Atleast In 4 day games, and perhaps in the first 40 overs in ODIs ... Saini is perhaps one of the most accurate pacers among all the pacers in the India Senior and India-A teams. ( along with Bumrah and Bhuvi ).

 

I am surprised that he has not carried his Ranji Trophy form to the Unofficial tests in 2018 ... although he was very economical and maintained pressure from his end.

 

I hope he does really well in the upcoming Unofficial tests against Australia in a few days.

 

We can really benefit from a very accurate genuine fast bowler like Saini, who gets both bounce snd movement.

 

 

Saini can be very good in Aus. He may be only around 6 feet but he gets more bounce than many taller bowlers due to his high arm action.  Prasidh today barely got any bounce but he did.

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6 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Saini can be very good in Aus. He may be only around 6 feet but he gets more bounce than many taller bowlers due to his high arm action.  Prasidh today barely got any bounce but he did.

 

Yes ... we need an accurate pacer with pace and bounce in Australia. Someone who will sustain pressure from his end on the flatter decks, if any.  Saini could be ideal.

 

Saini's bounce was very impressive today.

 

Prasidh lacked rhythm today.  He too is normally bouncy.

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30 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Similar pace, bounce and height.  And both were / are swing bowlers.

 

I hope he has the tremendous hunger for success of a Marshall.    : )

Maco is my absolute favorite bowler.  Just something about him.  

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Navdeep Saini bowling in Ranji Trophy 2017-18 semifinal and final.

 

The combination of pace, accuracy and seam movement is top class.

 

 

 

http://www.bcci.tv/videos/id/5894/navdeep-sainis-devastating-4-wicket-haul

 

 

 

http://www.bcci.tv/videos/id/6040/ranji-trophy-2017-18-final-delhi-vs-vidarbha-navdeep-sainis-5-wicket-haul

 

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, express bowling said:

Navdeep Saini bowling in Ranji Trophy 2017-18 semifinal and final.

 

The combination of pace, accuracy and seam movement is top class.

 

 

 

http://www.bcci.tv/videos/id/5894/navdeep-sainis-devastating-4-wicket-haul

 

 

 

http://www.bcci.tv/videos/id/6040/ranji-trophy-2017-18-final-delhi-vs-vidarbha-navdeep-sainis-5-wicket-haul

 

 

 

 

strange to see pant playing ranji last year and now being drafted into the national side but not saini who's shown stellar performances. For who knows what reason we've decided to stick with two 'pace attack leaders' in ishant and umesh with bowling averages of over 35. No other number 1 team has had such an inefficient pace attack ever

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18 minutes ago, bhakum20 said:

strange to see pant playing ranji last year and now being drafted into the national side but not saini who's shown stellar performances. For who knows what reason we've decided to stick with two 'pace attack leaders' in ishant and umesh with bowling averages of over 35. No other number 1 team has had such an inefficient pace attack ever

Umesh has been a major disappointment since the time he is been made a certainity in the test xi..never bowled with control,l leaks  runs as spendthrift..atleast they should have looked beyond him from this year but they are wasting time on him,they could have used Saini's skill in tests after Ranji 2017/18 straightway

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1 hour ago, bhakum20 said:

strange to see pant playing ranji last year and now being drafted into the national side but not saini who's shown stellar performances. For who knows what reason we've decided to stick with two 'pace attack leaders' in ishant and umesh with bowling averages of over 35. No other number 1 team has had such an inefficient pace attack ever

Bowlers are made to toil away in the domestics for many years unlike batsmen, who just need one good season to play for India. No wonder we are **** when it comes to bowling because of the way we treat them. 

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I thought Saini was a bit under par and allowed himself to be overshadowed by the likes of Rajpoot and Siraj during the last few 'A' tours. He was consistently miserly but never among the wickets. He certainly has an athletic physique and a smooth, repeatable action.

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8 minutes ago, sarchasm said:

I thought Saini was a bit under par and allowed himself to be overshadowed by the likes of Rajpoot and Siraj during the last few 'A' tours. He was consistently miserly but never among the wickets. He certainly has an athletic physique and a smooth, repeatable action.

Right. After end of Ranji he was little under performed. Seems to be picking up now. It happens. Could be some niggle.

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