Weeding out deadwoods. But How?

[Austin 3:!6]

Not sure from when remaining not out is bad. You need to bat well to not get out, isn't it simple logic? Also if we remove Not Out's from a stats his avg will indeed go down bcoz you are removing the games when he actually played well. There is no logic behind it.

 

From OP, Kohli avgs 92 in past 1 year. But if you remove his not outs it comes down to 48.

Rohit avgs 60 but when not outs are removed, the avg comes down to 37.

Similarly Dhoni's avg also drops down to 39 if not outs are removed.

 

 

[kira]

3 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Not sure from when remaining not out is bad. You need to bat well to not get out, isn't it simple logic? Also if we remove Not Out's from a stats his avg will indeed go down bcoz you are removing the games when he actually played well. There is no logic behind it.

 

From OP, Kohli avgs 92 in past 1 year. But if you remove his not outs it comes down to 48.

Rohit avgs 60 but when not outs are removed, the avg comes down to 37.

Similarly Dhoni's avg also drops down to 39 if not outs are removed.

 

 

Because a top order batsman's not out is the same as a lower order batsman's not out, facepalm isnt enough for this 

[Rasgulla]

3 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

What would you take rather? Avg of 27 with a strike rate of 114 (like Pandya) or avg 62 with Strike rate of 81 (Like Dhoni)?

Why are you asking that Pakistani about Indian players ? He is a huge afridi fan 

[putrevus]

7 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Not sure from when remaining not out is bad. You need to bat well to not get out, isn't it simple logic? Also if we remove Not Out's from a stats his avg will indeed go down bcoz you are removing the games when he actually played well. There is no logic behind it.

 

From OP, Kohli avgs 92 in past 1 year. But if you remove his not outs it comes down to 48.

Rohit avgs 60 but when not outs are removed, the avg comes down to 37.

Similarly Dhoni's avg also drops down to 39 if not outs are removed.

 

 

No one is complaining about his not outs, what people are complaining is his SR. When your finisher is having lower sr than your table setter we have big problem in the team.

[Rasgulla]

3 minutes ago, putrevus said:

No one is complaining about his not outs, what people are complaining is his SR. When your finisher is having lower sr than your table setter we have big problem in the team.

You don't even have players at #4 or #6  yet.. Yet you guys are picking on Dhoni and Pandya.

 

Find someone who is stable first at 4 and 6 then we can think about others. Whether you like it or not Both of them will play next WC. 

[putrevus]

4 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

You don't even have players at #4 or #6  yet.. Yet you guys are picking on Dhoni and Pandya.

 

Find someone who is stable first at 4 and 6 then we can think about others. Whether you like it or not Both of them will play next WC. 

You are right they don't have anyone at 4 and 5  but should Dhoni who is no longer fit to be no 6 still in team.Why compound one mistake with another mistake.

[Austin 3:!6]

26 minutes ago, kira said:

Because a top order batsman's not out is the same as a lower order batsman's not out, facepalm isnt enough for this 

Then why is he not being moved at no. 4 where he can consolidate? Everyone knows his striking power has reduced, so what is the point playing him at 6?

 

Facepalm captain aggressive...not me.

[Rasgulla]

26 minutes ago, putrevus said:

You are right they don't have anyone at 4 and 5  but should Dhoni who is no longer fit to be no 6 still in team.Why compound one mistake with another mistake.

He shouldn't be playing at #6 anymore that we all agree..  So the question is who 's mistake is it ? When he was captain he played at #4 at the end.. now he was moved back to #6 

[putrevus]

4 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Then why is he not being moved at no. 4 where he can consolidate? Everyone knows his striking power has reduced, so what is the point playing him at 6?

 

Facepalm captain aggressive...not me.

But do you think Dhoni has ability to rotate strike at no 4 and also ability to play semi new ball away from Asia where next world cup will be played.His stats are very average away from Asia. To be able to bat at number 4 you need to handle walking into 20/2 with new ball hooping around which Dhoni didn't have even in his prime and that is the reason why he was never put at no4. 

[Rasgulla]

9 minutes ago, putrevus said:

But do you think Dhoni has ability to rotate strike at no 4 and also ability to play semi new ball away from Asia where next world cup will be played.His stats are very average away from Asia. To be able to bat at number 4 you need to handle walking into 20/2 with new ball hooping around which Dhoni didn't have even in his prime and that is the reason why he was never put at no4. 

How can you say he is never good when he played just 4 matches outside asia at #4 ? 

 

His stats at #3 #4 and #5 are Brillant in general.. 

Edited February 12, 2018 by Rasgulla

[putrevus]

1 minute ago, Rasgulla said:

How can you say he is never good when he played just 4 matches outside asia at #4 ? 

 

His stats at #3 and #4 are Brillant in general.. 

He was captain for longest period of time, if he was that good at number 4 why didn't he promote himself when India was losing all those away matches why did he hide.There is one reason he is not that good at that spot he knows it very well too.

[speedheat]

45 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

You don't even have players at #4 or #6  yet.. Yet you guys are picking on Dhoni and Pandya.

 

Find someone who is stable first at 4 and 6 then we can think about others. Whether you like it or not Both of them will play next WC. 

Bot, dhoni now a days is a liability, since you are a gadget or software operated from bcci HQ,  let me explain you dhonis credibility in language of gadgests, Bot, today's dhoni is  as useless as

1)Nokia 3210 in india,

3) landline telephones

3) STD booth

4) Kodak dc25 camera

and

Nickelodeon timeblaster alaram clock

Made it simple for you, thank me,lol

[velu]

Dhoni second highest average after kohli

peaking at the right time

[jf1gp_1]

Rahane and dhoni number look really bad considering we had a good year

[Pollack]

3 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Similarly Dhoni's job is different to Pandya's. All 11 players cant be dashers right? Look I am not defending Dhoni for his low strike rate but you need consolidators and avg of 62 testify that MS is not doing that bad in ODIs. Also strike rate of 81 is not that bad.  Babar Azam strike rate is 84 and they consider him ATG in Pakistan

 

How many consolidators do you want in the team? And consolidating at no 5 or 6.

 

[Laaloo]

50 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Then why is he not being moved at no. 4 where he can consolidate? Everyone knows his striking power has reduced, so what is the point playing him at 6?

 

Facepalm captain aggressive...not me.

Have you seen his numbers at #4 in the last year? Lol they are worthy. The lower dhoni bats is better for us. Actually it would be better if he doesn't get to bat at all.

[vvvslaxman]

We have this guy Rohit sharma who is not completely guilt free scores only against certain oppositions in certain conditions.

[putrevus]

5 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

Have you seen his numbers at #4 in the last year? Lol they are worthy. The lower dhoni bats is better for us. Actually it would be better if he doesn't get to bat at all.

Why did he not move himself to number 4 when he was captain when India was losing odis left right and center in 2013 away series leg. India was dying to have stable number 4 they even moved Kohli to number 4 under his captaincy.

[velu]

11 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

Have you seen his numbers at #4 in the last year? Lol they are worthy. The lower dhoni bats is better for us. Actually it would be better if he doesn't get to bat at all.

 

how do you wantyou to be killed ? 

hanging or shot

 

[Laaloo]

11 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Why did he not move himself to number 4 when he was captain when India was losing odis left right and center in 2013 away series leg. India was dying to have stable number 4 they even moved Kohli to number 4 under his captaincy.