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2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

he was scared n stuck inside the crease against 140k bowlers in IPL

Got out to bouncers of pandya n brathwite 

i almost felt like this guy was shivering when he was facing umesh against RCB

 

Also what has he done to merit this selection 

failed in domestic season
smashed some 125k trundler when season was coming to an end
Slogged like a tail ender in Sa
Didnt do well in nidhas

Raydu should have been given one more chance to clear the yoyo test after two days.

i was confident of raydu's success as he was in deadly form and had the chance of scoring the highest runs in IPL if CSK had sent him as opener ahead of SHANE, he would have scored a century too.

when this guy had won the SEAT to england, they could have given him one or two more days to improve and who knows one redbull energy drink with some sound 10 hour sleep could have improved his score. 

before a 45 over match , i always tried to sleep for 9 to 10 hours and take a RED BULL and It improved my Stamina and focus.

Raina is an attacking batsman in asian tracks but he may not suceed in england.

 

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1 hour ago, asterix said:


Oh, ODIs & T20s, don’t even worry about team selections...Kohli is just a mask... main decision are and will be taken on & off the field by “somebody else”. One who can’t be named here...

u mean ravi shastri or MSD or some one else

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12 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

Raydu should have been given one more chance to clear the yoyo test after two days.

Nothing wud have changed in 2 days

12 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

i was confident of raydu's success as he was in deadly form and had the chance of scoring the highest runs in IPL if CSK had sent him as opener ahead of SHANE, he would have scored a century too.

HE has always done well in IPL 

good he failed, he is was never that gr8 for international cricket. 

1 good ipl doesnt change anything 

12 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

when this guy had won the SEAT to england, they could have given him one or two more days to improve and who knows one redbull energy drink with some sound 10 hour sleep could have improved his score. 

before a 45 over match , i always tried to sleep for 9 to 10 hours and take a RED BULL and It improved my Stamina and focus.

Raina is an attacking batsman in asian tracks but he may not suceed in england.

 

U worried about raina quality, raydu has his own issues . If u have question watch his 2014 CB series batting .........worse then a tailender. Had no idea how to play pace n bounce........IPL pitches n bowling attack doesnt show anything that he has improved

 

Also raydu doesnt contribute with ball as well and his international s/r is low  

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14 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Nothing wud have changed in 2 days

HE has always done well in IPL 

good he failed, he is was never that gr8 for international cricket. 

1 good ipl doesnt change anything 

U worried about raina quality, raydu has his own issues . If u have question watch his 2014 CB series batting .........worse then a tailender. Had no idea how to play pace n bounce........IPL pitches n bowling attack doesnt show anything that he has improved

 

Also raydu doesnt contribute with ball as well and his international s/r is low  

A Good Sleep, little bit of black Chana eating after soaking in water followed by a large Red BULL has given me WINGS, i have Scored 80 runs and it was Unbelievable, i could not believe how I could play for 33 oversand run for the other batsman too and score 80 runs.

 

that's what I want to tell you with practical experience STRESS reduces STAMINA.

Raydu was in his life's best form and Raina is down the Hill, i like him but now he is not a strong batsman against quality pace in england.

with this form he had the Skill to face english bowlers , he attacked avesh khan and hit him for 20 plus runs , avesh was bowling 142 to 145k..he was a SURE SHOT Success this time as far as batting is concerned. DHONI was Open enuf to admit that raydu was looking too good a batsman, even kohli admitted that, he actually broke over the door to selection.

everyone knew before selection that raydu will be selected. when a batsman breaks the door for selection , selectors have no choice but to select him , he was picked ahead of rahane and could have got a game or two to play, with his attack mode in IPL, he definitely would have scored in england.

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1 minute ago, vishalvirsingh said:

A Good Sleep, little bit of black Chana eating after soaking in water followed by a large Red BULL has given me WINGS, i have Scored 80 runs and it was Unbelievable, i could not believe how I could play for 33 oversand run for the other batsman too and score 80 runs.

 

that's what I want to tell you with practical experience STRESS reduces STAMINA.

International cricket is a diff ball game 

1 minute ago, vishalvirsingh said:

Raydu was in his life's best form and Raina is down the Hill, i like him but now he is not a strong batsman against quality pace in england.

with this form he had the Skill to face english bowlers , he attacked avesh khan and hit him for 20 plus runs , avesh was bowling 142 to 145k..he was a SURE SHOT Success this time as far as batting is concerned. DHONI was Open enuf to admit that raydu was looking too good a batsman, even kohli admitted that, he actually broke over the door to selection.

Avesh khan is inexperienced, Internationals bowlers wnt be 

Avesh was dispatched on indian picthes. Raydu was exposed on australian pitches

1 minute ago, vishalvirsingh said:

everyone knew before selection that raydu will be selected. when a batsman breaks the door for selection , selectors have no choice but to select him , he was picked ahead of rahane and could have got a game or two to play, with his attack mode in IPL, he definitely would have scored in england.

he played really well and has been doing well in IPL for yrs but he lacks quality

Many ppl do well in IPL n domestic doesnt mean international success will be guranteed 

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12 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

International cricket is a diff ball game 

Avesh khan is inexperienced, Internationals bowlers wnt be 

Avesh was dispatched on indian picthes. Raydu was exposed on australian pitches

he played really well and has been doing well in IPL for yrs but he lacks quality

Many ppl do well in IPL n domestic doesnt mean international success will be guranteed 

"stamina" varies daily based on what you eat and the kind of Sleep you have had. NEW comers are a little under tension before the yo yo test and that could be the reason for his lack of sleep ( i am assuming), some one who scores well and plays cricket all year long should be able to clear yoyo test as even ASHWIN is managing to clear the test and i would like to believe raydu is fitter than ASHWIN.

NO one else hit Avesh that way and this was raydu's BEST IPL and LIFE time batting. raydu was never known to be MSD CHAMCHA and i guess thats why msd sent shane and the african captain as opener ahead of him where as on indian tracks rayudu was a safer opener than them as he was sure to hit spinners comfortably, shane got lucky against BHUVI and even against Spinners and then he got into his hitting zone , a time when batsman swings and everything connects and his mishits dont go to fielders, it happens with all batsman. 

i agree many batsman hit in domestic cricket but with this kind of form he was destined for success. 

we real time cricketers can identify this form when a Batsman Sees the BALL much better and his feet are moving nicely and his confidence level is very high..i could have betted on him scoring runs in england , about his run rate , earlier it was SLOW , i agree but i feel he would have sorted that out this time for sure as in comeback , batsman become extra clever and know how to patch up the weakness.

i was criticised for the speed in running between wickets and in the next match , i made doubly sure that i ran like a Hare..its like 

that point gets stuck in your mind, i am sure he would have managed to score faster.

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10 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

"stamina" varies daily based on what you eat and the kind of Sleep you have had. NEW comers are a little under tension before the yo yo test and that could be the reason for his lack of sleep ( i am assuming), some one who scores well and plays cricket all year long should be able to clear yoyo test as even ASHWIN is managing to clear the test and i would like to believe raydu is fitter than ASHWIN.

 

10 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

NO one else hit Avesh that way and this was raydu's BEST IPL and LIFE time batting. raydu was never known to be MSD CHAMCHA and i guess thats why msd sent shane and the african captain as opener ahead of him where as on indian tracks rayudu was a safer opener than them as he was sure to hit spinners comfortably, shane got lucky against BHUVI and even against Spinners and then he got into his hitting zone , a time when batsman swings and everything connects and his mishits dont go to fielders, it happens with all batsman. 

Shane was an opener throughout n faf only does well as opener, really ur questioning watson after hsi final knock 

Raydu was kept in middle coz he is a middle order batsman and a gr8 player of spin 

Raydu is a middle order player, dhoni made him open

 

Do u think a captain of such successful franchise wud care who is chamcha is , coz if he did he wnt have been successful 

 

About shane luck, every one needs a bit of it.

10 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

i agree many batsman hit in domestic cricket but with this kind of form he was destined for success. 

we real time cricketers can identify this form when a Batsman Sees the BALL much better and his feet are moving nicely and his confidence level is very high..i could have betted on him scoring runs in england , about his run rate , earlier it was SLOW , i agree but i feel he would have sorted that out this time for sure as in comeback , batsman become extra clever and know how to patch up the weakness.

i was criticised for the speed in running between wickets and in the next match , i made doubly sure that i ran like a Hare..its like 

that point gets stuck in your mind, i am sure he would have managed to score faster.

stop giving ur example u dnt play international cricket

Form comes after, 1st u need ability........raydu lacks the quality thats why he didnt make it big. 

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8 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

Shane was an opener throughout n faf only does well as opener, really ur questioning watson after hsi final knock 

Raydu was kept in middle coz he is a middle order batsman and a gr8 player of spin 

Raydu is a middle order player, dhoni made him open

 

Do u think a captain of such successful franchise wud care who is chamcha is , coz if he did he wnt have been successful 

MSD has always played his Chamcha's and thats why he was a BIG failure as captain in test cricket outside of INDIA. Why blame MSD all captains Pick their favourites, otherwise do you think Srikkanth would have opened so long for INDIA( gavaskar picked him) when he was hardly scoring and even Sehwag could have been dropped earlier just that ganguly supported him big time and MSD dropped sehwag.

it is their viewpoint and they talk and connect better with some so they are selected ahead of colleagues, rahane gelled well with virat and that's why he is the vice captain and captained india against afghanistan. Rahane may not have the ideal leadership qualities that Virat has.

Stuart BInny is no where now where as he was picked by a bunch of selectors regularly for 2 years as the only all rounder india has now even the CSK opening swing bowler looked a much better pace all rounder than Stuart binny.

its view POINT, dhoni's viewpoint, favouritism towards some.

 

About shane luck, every one needs a bit of it.

stop giving ur example u dnt play international cricket...

leather ball cricket is Same , yes Levels are totally Different, i agree but i correlate and share the experience.

Form comes after, 1st u need ability........raydu lacks the quality thats why he didnt make it big. 

i give up on arguing with you....

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3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Since IPL discussion is going on @velu checkout hotstar. For some reason they are sharing all the heroics of CSK from the past. They go way back to 2010. Even the match where Albie took Virat kohli's 19th over to the cleaners lol

 

wah .. albie morkel innings is probably the best cameo in IPL ever :ahaa:

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5 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

he was scared n stuck inside the crease against 140k bowlers in IPL

Got out to bouncers of pandya n brathwite 

i almost felt like this guy was shivering when he was facing umesh against RCB

 

Also what has he done to merit this selection 

failed in domestic season
smashed some 125k trundler when season was coming to an end
Slogged like a tail ender in Sa
Didnt do well in nidhas

He had smoked 140 K bowlers in SA against SA in the recent T20 series and was MOS.Still fields like a gun and was always a clutch player for us.Besides, his record in England is very good.

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17 minutes ago, Cricket_Fan said:

He had smoked 140 K bowlers in SA against SA in the recent T20 series and was MOS.Still fields like a gun and was always a clutch player for us.Besides, his record in England is very good.

to be honest that attack didnt have a lot of quality and he was just trying to hit his way out which may work in t20 but not in longer format 

he failed in Nidhas with same strategy 

in IPL he was looking scared agianst fast bowlers even though he scored runs

Which is my point u can get away in t20 but not in longer format. 

What clutch player....he is almost a guarantee failure against SA, Aus and if Pak use their bowlers well wont stand against them to. Dnt give me 2011 example that 8 yrs ago

 

Now m afraid england doesnt have a bowler to trouble him and he might score runs but a guy who looks scraed of 140k + bowlers and has still no answer to his world renowed problem for short pitch shudnt be in WC plans 

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13 minutes ago, The Realist said:

Must be some youngsters here the "selectors" can pick from...

 

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Lets see.. theres going to be lots of guesses...

 

From L to R ...

 

Nissar or maybe Mushtaq Ali, Dont know, Nayudu? Borde?, Hazare, MAK Pataudi, 

 

Gupte, Dont know, Dont know, Dont know, Lala Amarnath, Vinoo Mankad

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4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

to be honest that attack didnt have a lot of quality and he was just trying to hit his way out which may work in t20 but not in longer format 

he failed in Nidhas with same strategy 

in IPL he was looking scared agianst fast bowlers even though he scored runs

Which is my point u can get away in t20 but not in longer format. 

What clutch player....he is almost a guarantee failure against SA, Aus and if Pak use their bowlers well wont stand against them to. Dnt give me 2011 example that 8 yrs ago

 

Now m afraid england doesnt have a bowler to trouble him and he might score runs but a guy who looks scraed of 140k + bowlers and has still no answer to his world renowed problem for short pitch shudnt be in WC plans 

He saved our backside against Pakistanis even in 2015 WC.SA had junior DALA hitting 140 clicks against him.And his role was always like this.Come at number 5-6 and make some quick runs and then field like a hungry tiger.

Pant has been a massive failure in his all international outings till now.He doesnt even have good A team outing other than Afghans.So I can understand selectors being sceptical about him.

 

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He saved our backside against Pakistanis even in 2015 WC.SA had junior DALA hitting 140 clicks against him.And his role was always like this.Come at number 5-6 and make some quick runs and then field like a hungry tiger.
Pant has been a massive failure in his all international outings till now.He doesnt even have good A team outing other than Afghans.So I can understand selectors being sceptical about him.
 
Afghanistan is a joke team right now.
TBH.

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10 minutes ago, Cricket_Fan said:

He saved our backside against Pakistanis even in 2015 WC.

Go watch that match again, misbah like an idiot served him spinners at start 

Had he bowled pacers against him at start wnt have lasted long, thats y i said if they use their brains. Sarfraz seems a smart captain wnt do same mistake

 

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SA had junior DALA hitting 140 clicks against him.And his role was always like this.Come at number 5-6 and make some quick runs and then field like a hungry tiger.

he batted at 3

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Pant has been a massive failure in his all international outings till now.He doesnt even have good A team outing other than Afghans.So I can understand selectors being sceptical about him.

 

how can u compare pant n raina

Pant is starting his career and facing early nerves. Raina got put on 0 in his debut game 

 

 

Whereas raina hasnt even overcome his short pitch from for so many yrs. 

 

Selectors shud have gone for krunal, he offers a lot more with bowl then raina wud and raina wud hardly offer much with bat against quality bowling

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5 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Go watch that match again, misbah like an idiot served him spinners at start 

Had he bowled pacers against him at start wnt have lasted long, thats y i said if they use their brains. Sarfraz seems a smart captain wnt do same mistake

 

he batted at 3

how can u compare pant n raina

Pant is starting his career and facing early nerves. Raina got put on 0 in his debut game 

Whereas raina hasnt even overcome his short pitch from for so many yrs. 

 

Selectors shud have gone for krunal, he offers a lot more with bowl then raina wud and raina wud hardly offer much with bat against quality bowling

Did Ganguly overcome his batting against short pitch bowling even afer being much better batsman than Raina? In fact how many of our past legends were good against short ball.Pant has been a massive failure in all the chances he got including A team tours.

 

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1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

how much has he played to be even judged. U want me to take out gr8 cricketers initial numbers 

He had done few A team tours and failed to score runs in all of them except against Afghans.Also look at the way he batted in international games he got.Was batting like a deer infront of headlights.Even the much maligned VijayShankar did better than him.

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Love how everyone is blaming the selectors but not even 1 word about Captain Clown Kohli. :laugh: 

 

Have you people ever wondered why these same selectors pick good India A squads? It’s because “King” Kohli has no relevance for India A selection! 

 

Had Kohli also been in charge for India A, then I guarantee you that those squads would also consist of has-beens like our senior squad. 

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39 minutes ago, Cricket_Fan said:

Did Ganguly overcome his batting against short pitch bowling even afer being much better batsman than Raina?

Yes he did in his last leg of career

even with the problem he use to smash pak n Sa bowling attack

39 minutes ago, Cricket_Fan said:

 

In fact how many of our past legends were good against short ball.

Steve waugh had that issue many had it but they found a way to score runs

Raina not only got under it but developed a probelm of full deilvery to which is why he got bowled so many times anticipating short one 

I dnt remeber many who was mentally so much challenged agaisnt short pitch bowling like he has been 

39 minutes ago, Cricket_Fan said:

 

Pant has been a massive failure in all the chances he got including A team tours.

 

pant hasnt played a lot of A-games n no not a massive failure

39 minutes ago, Cricket_Fan said:

He had done few A team tours and failed to score runs in all of them except against Afghans.Also look at the way he batted in international games he got.Was batting like a deer infront of headlights.Even the much maligned VijayShankar did better than him.

vijay shankar is a class player 

 

33 minutes ago, Cricket_Fan said:

People here said the same thing when Kartik was selected.Look what he has done in his comeback.I have a feeling that Raina will do good this time.

kartik actually has played 1-2 knocks only so his example isnt the gr8 one either 

Raina might give u false hopes against eng since they dnt have a bowler to test him but dnt worry sooner or late he ll be exposed. It was evident in IPL how fattu has he become against pace

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27 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Yes he did in his last leg of career

even with the problem he use to smash pak n Sa bowling attack

Steve waugh had that issue many had it but they found a way to score runs

Raina not only got under it but developed a probelm of full deilvery to which is why he got bowled so many times anticipating short one 

I dnt remeber many who was mentally so much challenged agaisnt short pitch bowling like he has been 

pant hasnt played a lot of A-games n no not a massive failure

vijay shankar is a class player 

 

kartik actually has played 1-2 knocks only so his example isnt the gr8 one either 

Raina might give u false hopes against eng since they dnt have a bowler to test him but dnt worry sooner or late he ll be exposed. It was evident in IPL how fattu has he become against pace

Raina would be playing No:5 and by the time he comes to bat on today's pattas, the hardness of the ball would have been gone and less likely to get bouncers.Look at Moeen Ali.He was even bounced by Ishant in the last series but still a very useful lower oder hitter for Engalnd in LOIs.I see a similar role for Raina.

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Manish Pandey could have been picked he is definitely more suited for ODIs than T20's, and that would have been a bit more forward looking. Better yet get a 6th bowling option like Krunal. 

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Neither Raina now nor Raydu would hv made the playing x1 anyway.. 

 

I think the thing that goes for Raina is he being a left handed experinced batsman.. 

 

Sundar has blocked krual pandya place otherwise krunal wd hv been a great replacement.. 

 

Pant and kishan are also left handders and sloggers.. But at no. 6 u need sloggers. Sadly its not a perfect world. 

 

But still i dont think Raina is that bad choice as rahane was.. One thing is certain he wont stall the game.. 

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3 hours ago, Sooda said:

Manish Pandey could have been picked he is definitely more suited for ODIs than T20's, and that would have been a bit more forward looking. Better yet get a 6th bowling option like Krunal. 

The slot for which this selection is NO. 6..and Neither raydu was ideal nor manish. 

 

All the rest slots are taken.. 

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7 hours ago, The Realist said:

Must be some youngsters here the "selectors" can pick from...

 

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I wish you were the coach or selector of the Indian team the amount of passion emotion and care you show for the Indian team is incredible. :hatsoff:to you wish the selectors had been passionate like you have been for our team you are truly a legend :bow:.Im sure our players will give more than 200% if you were the coach or selector.

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8 hours ago, Cricket_Fan said:

Raina would be playing No:5 and by the time he comes to bat on today's pattas, the hardness of the ball would have been gone and less likely to get bouncers.Look at Moeen Ali.He was even bounced by Ishant in the last series but still a very useful lower oder hitter for Engalnd in LOIs.I see a similar role for Raina.

he use to bat at 5-6 n get exposed back then also. Also we use two new balls so it wnt get that old

the guy got out to bouncer of brathwite n pandya on indian pitches , 

 

Moeen ali hasnt been devasted in his head about bouncer like raina, as i said it more of mental problem for him . Many other has same issue but not as much as raina

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8 hours ago, Cricket_Fan said:

Raina would be playing No:5 and by the time he comes to bat on today's pattas, the hardness of the ball would have been gone and less likely to get bouncers.Look at Moeen Ali.He was even bounced by Ishant in the last series but still a very useful lower oder hitter for Engalnd in LOIs.I see a similar role for Raina.

we play with two new balls these days and ball never gets soft.

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