The Dark Horse Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Shastri+Sunny+Manju combo will make sure he plays the WI series. Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Pujara and Rahane are both short term options as of now, as was Vijay. But sooner we find adequate replacements in the form of exceptional talents we need to phase out them, especially Pujara. With Rahane at least his record in 3 out of 4 in SENA is still great. But his record in last 2 years is a bit off. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 51 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said: Pujara and Rahane are both short term options as of now, as was Vijay. But sooner we find adequate replacements in the form of exceptional talents we need to phase out them, especially Pujara. With Rahane at least his record in 3 out of 4 in SENA is still great. But his record in last 2 years is a bit off. There are no exceptional talent waiting. Even in 2000s, only SRT and Viru were exceptional talents and latter still sucked in SENA averaging 33. Link to comment
vayuu1 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 There are no exceptional talent waiting. Even in 2000s, only SRT and Viru were exceptional talents and latter still sucked in SENA averaging 33.Gill is there so is shaw yes they are newbies but I am sure if backed up and taken care properly can do well for usSent from my vivo 1601 using Tapatalk Link to comment
rkt.india Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, vayuu1 said: Gill is there so is shaw yes they are newbies but I am sure if backed up and taken care properly can do well for us Sent from my vivo 1601 using Tapatalk none of two are exceptional talents. Shaw has huge technical flaws. Link to comment
vayuu1 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 none of two are exceptional talents. Shaw has huge technical flaws.What are you on about, if none are exceptional talent then you have like huge Tendulkar like expectations can't think of much problem with Gill, Shaw has a flaw but good thing is both realize that they have problem and working on it. Sent from my vivo 1601 using Tapatalk Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 57 minutes ago, rkt.india said: There are no exceptional talent waiting. Even in 2000s, only SRT and Viru were exceptional talents and latter still sucked in SENA averaging 33. infact I pointed to Dravid, Ganguly,Laxman & Sehwag. We have the current version Sachin in Kohli. For instance it is doubt ful whether to call Dravid so much naturally talented, but his technique & temperament!!!!!!!!! Similarly Ganguly & Laxman were like duck into water in ENG & AUS respectively. Sehwag far far better version of Pujara.So i basically meant to trace out those sort of batsmen.If the system can provide 4 such players with in a period of 5 years, why can't it do it again??? But.. of course the effort of trial and error needs to keep on continuing till such players are found . Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 17 minutes ago, rkt.india said: none of two are exceptional talents. Shaw has huge technical flaws. what about technique of Border,Steven Waugh,Graeme Smith,Chanderpaul,Younis khan, Steven Smith, Javed Miandad,Justin Langer etc etc??? I can give lot more names... Link to comment
rkt.india Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, vayuu1 said: What are you on about, if none are exceptional talent then you have like huge Tendulkar like expectations can't think of much problem with Gill, Shaw has a flaw but good thing is both realize that they have problem and working on it. Sent from my vivo 1601 using Tapatalk what does exceptional talent mean? Tendulkar was exceptional talent. Viru was exceptional talent. Shaw could be an exceptional talent but he has those glaring weaknesses which are hard to overlook. Regarding Gill, will not judge him at this point. Let him play some FC cricket first, only then we can say whether he is an exceptional talent or not. Edited September 12, 2018 by rkt.india Switchblade 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said: what about technique of Border,Steven Waugh,Graeme Smith,Chanderpaul,Younis khan, Steven Smith, Javed Miandad,Justin Langer etc etc??? I can give lot more names... Unorthodox technique does not mean technical flaws. Shaw is not unorthodox. Link to comment
vayuu1 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Shaw has flaws but he admits it and is working on that he himself knows and is working with Dravid on that what does exceptional talent mean? Tendulkar was exceptional talent. Viru was exceptional talent. Shaw could be an exceptional talent but he has those glaring weaknesses which are hard to overlook. Regarding Gill, will not judge him at this point. Let him play some FC cricket first, only then we can say whether he is an exceptional talent or not.Sent from my vivo 1601 using Tapatalk Link to comment
SecondSlip Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 BUMP! Innings: 45 Average: 29.74 Centuries: 1 Rahane should no longer be an automatic selection in the starting XI. It's time to give youngsters a chance now since our "SENA" tours are done. Real McCoy and express bowling 2 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 21 minutes ago, SecondSlip said: BUMP! Innings: 45 Average: 29.74 Centuries: 1 Rahane should no longer be an automatic selection in the starting XI. It's time to give youngsters a chance now since our "SENA" tours are done. He hasnt been at his best but has improved in last few mnths and next tour is in WI where he shud play and kohli shud be rested so a youngster like vihari gets his chances Pujara has also finally come good overseas.....so lets wait on rahane to. He is a quality player . Already Vijay n rahul have lost their places and kohli workload needs to be managed now ....need some exp as well cant have all youngsters Link to comment
putrevus Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Rahane needs to be kicked out of the team, I have never liked him, he needs to go. SK_IH 1 Link to comment
SecondSlip Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 29 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: He hasnt been at his best but has improved in last few mnths and next tour is in WI where he shud play and kohli shud be rested so a youngster like vihari gets his chances Pujara has also finally come good overseas.....so lets wait on rahane to. He is a quality player . Already Vijay n rahul have lost their places and kohli workload needs to be managed now ....need some exp as well cant have all youngsters How long is the rope for someone who averages less than 30 for over 2 years? The so called "SENA" specialist was below average in both England and Australia. Nothing needs to be said about his home record. A youngster can't do any worse than this. He will at least be good on home pitches which Rahane is not! Real McCoy and Laaloo 2 Link to comment
The Realist Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Yup time to move on to younger and hungrier players who don't already look defeated. He's had his time in the sun and wilted badly, had more than enough chances and as the difficult overseas tours are now over till the next cycle its the perfect time to try out fresh talent. Real McCoy and SK_IH 2 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 We have so many better options. This guy is so undeserving express bowling 1 Link to comment
diga Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 In one of the other threads, I mentioned that the least expected of the vice-captain Rahane was atleast 3 50s from 4 tests (~7 innings). Is there a mental block for him batting at 5 ? Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 6 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: He hasnt been at his best but has improved in last few mnths and next tour is in WI where he shud play and kohli shud be rested so a youngster like vihari gets his chances Pujara has also finally come good overseas.....so lets wait on rahane to. He is a quality player . Already Vijay n rahul have lost their places and kohli workload needs to be managed now ....need some exp as well cant have all youngsters No, Kohli should not miss a test series overseas even if against WI, He can miss ODIs and T20s. express bowling, SK_IH and putrevus 3 Link to comment
Tendulkar1996 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Time to move on and blood gill asap.We visit australia in nov 2020 again for 4 tests,5 test tour of england july 2021,South africa in dec 2021.Gill and shaw should be established by then.We SHOULD NOT carry rahane now and then face a renewed middle order crisis. By the way i think future tours programme between dec 2020 to dec 2021 is insane and a blot on bcci planning. Link to comment
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