Sachinism Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Quote India's parliament has passed a law that increases paid maternity leave from 12 to 26 weeks. The new law will apply to all organisations which employ more than 10 people. Labour Minister Bandaru Dattatreya said the law was "a humble gift" to women. India now gives the third longest duration of fully paid maternity leave in the world, behind Canada and Norway, which give 50 and 44 weeks respectively. The bill was first approved by India's upper house of parliament last year, but became a law after the lower house passed it on Thursday. However, women will be able to avail the 26-week leave only for their first two children. After that, they will be entitled to just 12 weeks. Activists say that the law will encourage more women to pursue their careers after pregnancy. A survey by industry body Assocham last year found that a quarter of Indian women give up their careers after having a baby. However some critics say that the law could impact hiring decisions of companies. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-39227964 Well done India beetle, Muloghonto, velu and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Well done Modiji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 will this realistically be implemented? Many Indian states have a minimum wage.... just saying velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laaloo Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 And here in the US I think Women get like 2 weeks to a month. What a disgrace velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Great. I think we have paternity leave option too.Don't know if it is saved leave or over and above the normal leave. There should be an option of cancelling paternity leave by the wife if the guy is not helping out at home and instead making the new mother run around to make chai pakwaan.Some people can be unbelievably obnoxious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Good rule, but I hope this does not cause any discrimination while employing young women. velu and Laaloo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Good .... but need to implement 1-child per family policy .... there could be concerns about declining birth rate impacting the ability to support the current generations but Ind already has too many dependents where one or two members work to feed the whole family so Ind has to cut its population down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 On 3/10/2017 at 10:05 PM, Texan said: Good rule, but I hope this does not cause any discrimination while employing young women. It obviously will. It will make companies think twice before hiring women who are engaged/ about to get married. velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 22 minutes ago, Mariyam said: It obviously will. It will make companies think twice before hiring women who are engaged/ about to get married. We need stronger labor laws and faster conflict resolution otherwise this might make companies discriminate against young married women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajid_Rana Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 As a business owner, why should I give free money to someone for half a year ? beetle and Adi_91 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensible-indian Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) Noble idea but how will this work out especially in our cut throat environment? Won't the hiring process start discriminating people unofficially? How are other countries Canada and Norway making it work? Edited March 12, 2017 by sensible-indian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 1 hour ago, sensible-indian said: Noble idea but how will this work out especially in our cut throat environment? Won't the hiring process start discriminating people unofficially? How are other countries Canada and Norway making it work? Much harder to discriminate in countries like Canada or Norway because of the speed of our justice system- if the allegations are made here, the case is solved within 4 months. Thats the deterrent here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moniker Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Noble idea but how will this work out especially in our cut throat environment? Won't the hiring process start discriminating people unofficially? How are other countries Canada and Norway making it work? Canada and the Scandinavian countries have parental leave - not just maternity leave. The mother gets 6 weeks after childbirth and then both the parents can make use of the parental leave benefits. That takes care of eliminating discriminatory practices as everyone is guaranteed time off irrespective of gender. Although the intention behind passing this bill is noble, it is inherently sexist - It stereotypes women as the primary care givers and men as the primary breadwinners. But anyway, it is at least a step in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 29 minutes ago, moniker said: Canada and the Scandinavian countries have parental leave - not just maternity leave. The mother gets 6 weeks after childbirth and then both the parents can make use of the parental leave benefits. That takes care of eliminating discriminatory practices as everyone is guaranteed time off irrespective of gender. Although the intention behind passing this bill is noble, it is inherently sexist - It stereotypes women as the primary care givers and men as the primary breadwinners. But anyway, it is at least a step in the right direction. ^ He means discriminating in terms of hiring people who already have kids/are in the 40+ age group... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laaloo Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 5 hours ago, Sajid_Rana said: As a business owner, why should I give free money to someone for half a year ? Ghar pe bacche peda karne ka dhandha chalu kiya hai toh tujhe muft mein 6 mahine kya puri zindagi paisa dena padega mian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 5 hours ago, Sajid_Rana said: As a business owner, why should I give free money to someone for half a year ? because the law said so. And it is a fundamental right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 On 3/12/2017 at 3:36 PM, Sajid_Rana said: As a business owner, why should I give free money to someone for half a year ? Like customers, employees are also assets of a company .... By taking care of its employees, a company also tends to attracts the best talent and promote loyalty .... Additionally, the cost of replacing an employee who offers value > keeping the employee The concept of considering such moves as giving free money is not accurate as one has to look at both intangibles and tangibles .... By regulations, a company needs to offer 12 weeks anyways so here we are talking about an additional 14-weeks Sachinism 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 On 3/13/2017 at 0:13 AM, Texan said: We need stronger labor laws and faster conflict resolution otherwise this might make companies discriminate against young married women. It just isn't that simple. Labour laws come into the picture when one is an employee. Not if one is discriminated against before one were hired. Conflict resolution is also possible when one knows there is an inherent discrimination, but the reasons cited (if at all) will always be job/skill specific. The government, both state and centre have tried giving companies various tax breaks for hiring women in decision making/managerial positions. Lets see how that plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Quote In 2012, there were around 487 million workers in India, the second largest after China.[1] Of these over 94 percent work in unincorporated, unorganised enterprises ranging from pushcart vendors to home-based diamond and gem polishing operations.[2][3] The organised sector includes workers employed by the government, state-owned enterprises and private sector enterprises. In 2008, the organised sector employed 27.5 million workers, of which 17.3 million worked for government or government owned entities.[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_in_India 94% of Indians work in unorganised sector , which means for 94% of women these type of bills are useless.India can copy laws from west but they are totally useless unless you become a developed economy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Haha! Those hailing Modi this is but another arsenal to reduce women workforce! In a country like India, which employer will hire a woman if he is getting a slightly inferior guy for the same role and not having to see him on leave for a year in the next 5 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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