Inconsistent Vijay

[kira]

 

Quote

11	-	36	2	0	30.55	2	caught	2		v Australia	Dharamsala	25 Mar 2017	Test # 2258
8	-	35	0	0	22.85	2	caught	4		v Australia	Dharamsala	25 Mar 2017	Test # 2258
82	284	183	10	1	44.80	2	stumped	2		v Australia	Ranchi	16 Mar 2017	Test # 2256
10	28	19	1	0	52.63	1	caught	2		v Australia	Pune	23 Feb 2017	Test # 2250
2	20	23	0	0	8.69	1	lbw	4		v Australia	Pune	23 Feb 2017	Test # 2250
108	265	160	12	1	67.50	2	bowled	1		v Bangladesh	Hyderabad (Deccan)	9 Feb 2017	Test # 2249
7	17	14	1	0	50.00	1	caught	3		v Bangladesh	Hyderabad (Deccan)	9 Feb 2017	Test # 2249
29	96	76	4	0	38.15	6	lbw	2		v England	Chennai	16 Dec 2016	Test # 2241
136	344	282	10	3	48.22	2	caught	2		v England	Mumbai	8 Dec 2016	Test # 2239
12	65	38	2	0	31.57	1	caught	2		v England	Mohali	26 Nov 2016	Test # 2238
0	6	8	0	0	0.00	1	caught	4		v England	Mohali	26 Nov 2016	Test # 2238
20	27	21	4	0	95.23	1	caught	1		v England	Visakhapatnam	17 Nov 2016	Test # 2235
3	37	25	0	0	12.00	1	caught	3		v England	Visakhapatnam	17 Nov 2016	Test # 2235
126	487	301	9	4	41.86	1	caught	2		v England	Rajkot	9 Nov 2016	Test # 2232
31	89	71	6	0	43.66	1	caught	4		v England	Rajkot	9 Nov 2016	Test # 2232
10	27	18	2	0	55.55	1	caught	1		v New Zealand	Indore	8 Oct 2016	Test # 2223
19	64	42	2	0	45.23	1	run out	3		v New Zealand	Indore	8 Oct 2016	Test # 2223
9	50	29	2	0	31.03	2	caught	1		v New Zealand	Kolkata	30 Sep 2016	Test # 2222
7	30	15	1	0	46.66	2	caught	3		v New Zealand	Kolkata	30 Sep 2016	Test # 2222

In the last 19 test innings, vijay has failed in 15 innings.

 

7 times he was out in single digits.

 

Surely we can't afford such an inconsistent opener with just 5 batsmen playing. can we?

Edited March 28, 2017 by kira

[sm332]

This will be a big determinant in whether we are competitive in our next overseas cycle. 

[sensible-indian]

We have inconsistent Vijay, unsure against spin Rahane, Virat "I bat big or go home" Kohli, Karun "terror for home team" Nair and Pujara.

 

Our top 5 is the best in the world in terms of potential but our lineup is always messed up at any given point of time.

 

Home or away, in every series, it feels like we bat with just 2-3 batsmen.

 

Vijay is really the most inconsistent of them all.

[vvvslaxman]

yea what is frustrating is most of the time he deals with the hardest part and gets out.

[gattaca]

He used leave balls out side off consistently got out same way both innings. May be extra pace did it. But need to work on this.

[vvvslaxman]

22 minutes ago, gattaca said:

He used leave balls out side off consistently got out same way both innings. May be extra pace did it. But need to work on this.

He is exposing himself to one bowler for far too long. He gives chance to bowlers to set him up. High time he starts taking singles in between.

[jusarrived]

Was a lot more fluent when we where playing away , has been going to very defensive mode lately . You almost get a feeling that hes losing interest ? 

[Gollum]

Without Vijay we will get embarrassed overseas. He is a good bat who played well in the home season except this series. Sure, he will bounce back. 

[kira]

Just now, Gollum said:

Without Vijay we will get embarrassed overseas. He is a good bat who played well in the home season except this series. Sure, he will bounce back. 

Really? He played well in the home season? He averaged 36 in this home season

[Cricketics]

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

He is exposing himself to one bowler for far too long. He gives chance to bowlers to set him up. High time he starts taking singles in between.

 

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

He is exposing himself to one bowler for far too long. He gives chance to bowlers to set him up. High time he starts taking singles in between.

I think it also shows some complex and kind of conundrum for Vijay to bat with Rahul. Earlier I remember Vijay also liked attacking even though he liked leaving few good balls, he kept playing his shots. Now with Rahul as his partner who also likes playing his shots, he seems to have changed his game a bit. Sometimes different partners can change your game. Vijay won't have been asked to change his game, it just has happened in no time after having spent time in the middle with Rahul and Vijay need to sort that thing out. 

[Gollum]

4 minutes ago, kira said:

Really? He played well in the home season? He averaged 36 in this home season

Average is not everything. 

He won us the 1st test against NZ on a very difficult pitch. I think he top scored in both innings. Him and Pujara set up the series win there, Kohli/Rahane scored dead rubber 100s in that series.

Against England his partnership with Pujara while trailing by 530 odd saved the Rajkot test, else we would have been 0-1 down against our most difficult opposition of the past 5 years. Series would have taken a different turn if we had lost Rajkot test. Played very well in Mumbai test too.

Against Bangladesh got a 100.

He is still better than Rahul who needs to prove a lot overseas. We should back our quality players if they get a few low scores. Vijay is quality, he will bounce back. One thing I am sure, without Vijay we are losing the RSA series very badly.

[sm332]

I am not sure anyone is advocating dropping Vijay - but the point is that if we see this type of inconsistency across several overseas series we are unlikely to make much headway

[G_B_]

Its Murli in a nutshell. He should be averaging about 45 but averages 40. Sucks in these really small chases when battle is won.

 

Sent from my Wileyfox Swift using Tapatalk

 

 

[coffee_rules]

We don't have a Jaffer or Gambhir waiting in the wings to replace Vijay. We can live with his inconsistency if others can cover for him. He performs when it is needed , so I don't think it is fair to ask for his replacement. 

[The Realist]

A decent to good player but nothing more. Was always a back up to Sehwag & Gambhir and has not really kicked on since being given an opening slot.

 

If there were younger openers piling up the runs in domestic cricket his place would be under threat. Would be good to have some more competition for places as Mukund is mediocre.

[helperononline]

He is lazy that`s why he is inconsistent 

 

 

[Forever Indian]

More than the scores he makes, the balls he faces is what would be of most importance on overseas tours.

 

Also he has been pivotal in our few Wins and Near Wins overseas like Nottingham Draw, Lords Win, Adelaide Near Win chasing with Kohli, etc.

[sm332]

to be fair - if he bats out an average of 75 balls per innings, it will help our cause enormously!

[Gollum]

3 hours ago, The Realist said:

A decent to good player but nothing more. Was always a back up to Sehwag & Gambhir and has not really kicked on since being given an opening slot.

 

If there were younger openers piling up the runs in domestic cricket his place would be under threat. Would be good to have some more competition for places as Mukund is mediocre.

He is better than Gambhir. Also better than Sehwag overseas. 

[vvvslaxman]

He is  definitely one of the soundest opener i have ever seen playing for India. There was a stat about his ability to leave the balls after string of overseas tours. It was pretty impressive. He never had this frightened look against any fast bowler like you see with guys like Mukund. Remember how Jaffer was owned by Brett Lee innings after innings with same length.  Sidhu was owned by Angus fraser.  My problem is not his ability to see off new ball. My problem his inability to make it count after doing all the hard yards. That is where he is doing grave injustice to his career. He is a better batsman than his average suggests.  Nothing wrong with his technique. He just spends too much time at one end. Eventually he gets a good one.