Rahul at 4 : Discussion Thread

[sourab10forever]

1. The experiment hasn't worked so far.

2. It is highly unlikely that all three : Rohit,Dhawan,Rahul will be available Everytime. One or the other keeps getting injured/is out of form terribly.

 

So maybe Rahul should stay at opening and we need to find two options just for No.4. Currently Jadhav/Pandey and Rahane are the candidates.

Need to have all these folks in the mix with equal match experience before the run up to the WC 2019.

 

Your thoughts?

[express bowling]

3  matches with low scores  don't mean much.

 

He is not used to batting in the middle-order and may take a little time to get acclimatized.

 

All player with potential should be given sufficient time to prove their mettle.

[SK_IH]

its not about low scores, he hasnt looked comfortable at all

[SK_IH]

12 minutes ago, express bowling said:

3  matches with low scores  don't mean much.

 

He is not used to batting in the middle-order and may take a little time to get acclimatized.

 

All player with potential should be given sufficient time to prove their mettle.

i agree, so whats the need of making him a no 4 player, clearly thats not his strength.Playing in the middle order is not that easy,ask hitman 

[Rasgulla]

Looks better warming the bench.. Should be backup for dhawan and Tailent 

 

Dhawan

Rohit

Kohli

Pandey

Dhoni

Kedar

Pandya

2 spinners 

2 pace

 

[express bowling]

4 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

i agree, so whats the need of making him a no 4 player, clearly thats not his strength.

Openers' slots filled by Hitman and Gabbar

 

No.4 slot is the only one available

 

Another point is ..... I feel Rahul maybe a good No.4,  if he gets acclimatized to this slot, as he can hit the big shots if he has to bat past the 40th over ( which happens often with No..4 batters )

[Gollum]

3 matches is too less. Give him a continuous run of 15 matches and then we'll see. He is a once in a generation talent, we need to be patient with him. 

[rkt.india]

he has barely played 10 ODIs. Too early to call.  Needs to play more games to get acclimatized to middle order. There have been several openers who shifted to MO and did well. Joe Root is one, Michael Hussey is another comes to mind.

[Pollack]

Knee jerk reaction if one believes Rahul experiment has been a failure. Too less sample size.

[PSB_Zone]

Play him at 5 , Mansish at 4 pandya at 6 and dhoni at 7..If too many wicket falls dhoni can be used as a floater.

 

[SUMO]

rahul needs to start well with singles and twos...he gets restless if he doesn't get boundary early on, opener's mindset.
All his innings were soft dismissals trying to manufacture shots in the air even though he can play on the ground and maintain good strike rate like kohli.

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, PSB_Zone said:

Play him at 5 , Mansish at 4 pandya at 6 and dhoni at 7..If too many wicket falls dhoni can be used as a floater.

 

Pandey needs to start bowling again if we want to drop / rest Jadhav in a few matches, as Jadhav acts as the 6th bowler.

[Samcric]

More than the no. 4 position, he has had problems with playing Dhananjay who has got him out all 3 times. He hasn't read him well and you can say that the ones in 3rd and 4th ODIs were soft dismissals. Rohit Sharma kept failing for a long time in the early part of his career and Kohli also took some time to get started. Rahul has already proven his potential in Tests and IPL. No reason to pull the curtains on him after 3 innings that he failed to score in. Remember he scored a fifty in each innings of that tough Australia test series, so its not like he lacks the mental mettle. Need to be patient.

[sourab10forever]

No one is pulling curtains on him lol...

Just that eyeing 2019WC, we need to have atleast 3-4 openers ready and same with MO..need to have 2-3 guys in the mix for no.4.

 

You don't wanna be swapping around Rahul b/w opening and #4. 

[Samcric]

12 minutes ago, sourab10forever said:

No one is pulling curtains on him lol...

Just that eyeing 2019WC, we need to have atleast 3-4 openers ready and same with MO..need to have 2-3 guys in the mix for no.4.

 

You don't wanna be swapping around Rahul b/w opening and #4. 

That is what many posters have suggested - play Manish Pandey instead of Rahul at No. 4 (which means Rahul will not be playing at all). In my view, ideally Rahul should be opening the innings but since that is not possible (practically speaking) because of Rohit/Dhawan, I would prefer him playing at 4 than not play at all. He has the game to be successful at no. 4 and can score at a SR of 140 if the situation demands. I am not sure Manish Pandey can. He seems to be another version of current MSD. May not get out easily (as he did against SA A recently) but can't score at more than a SR of 100-110 max. This is very useful on 250-par pitches but utterly useless on 330-par pitches. I am afraid we will get the latter ones in England in WC 2019.

[LORD_analyst]

needs to be given more time to get used to at 4 ...

but certainly his strength is opening slot..

hope he gets the thinking right

[LORD_analyst]

4 hours ago, express bowling said:

Pandey needs to start bowling again if we want to drop / rest Jadhav in a few matches, as Jadhav acts as the 6th bowler.

i really doubt jadhav's credibility in do or die  situations like-  ct finals or 1-3 odi in sl ....except that match against england in india.

also his foot doesnt even move against spinners - as in case of dhananjaya and shadab khan...

if i were selector then would replace him with raina or yuvi who can deliver in crunch situation  if top-order collapses.

Edited September 1, 2017 by LORD_analyst

[express bowling]

12 minutes ago, LORD_analyst said:

i really doubt jadhav's credibility in do or die  situations like-  ct finals or 1-3 odi in sl ....except that match against england in india.

also his foot doesnt even move against spinners - as in case of dhananjaya and shadab khan...

 

 

He is an ideal batter if he comes in to bat after the 40th over.

 

Can start batting at a high SR from ball one then and is better at tackling pacers, who provide him with the pace.

 

He does look a bit off if he comes to bat early.

[LORD_analyst]

38 minutes ago, express bowling said:

He does look a bit off if he comes to bat early.

that is is do or die situation where top-order collapses...

[Lannister]

KLR is our future, give him 10-15 matches and see how he'll do. If we had applied the same rules to other players, I wonder how many times they would have been kicked from the team.