Sachin Tendulkar v Virat Kohli - who is better ODI batsman?

[Laaloo]

4 hours ago, velu said:

not rhyming  

Who cares

[Srinivasan Mama]

Virat Kohli is a better player than Tendulkar, Lara and Ponting’: Michael Vaughan

 

https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/407120-michael-vaughan-thinks-virat-kohli-is-a-better-player-than-tendulkar-lara-and-ponting

 

 

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[putrevus]

Those who look objectively and analyze their careers will understand Kohli in Odis has no equal.It does not matter who it is Viv, Sachin, ABDV Kohli is better than them.

 

Tests , Steve Smith before his ban was just off the charts good. Kohli needs to raise his bar to match him.Sachin after 77 tests was not better than Kohli though.

 

[Vijy]

2 hours ago, putrevus said:

Those who look objectively and analyze their careers will understand Kohli in Odis has no equal.It does not matter who it is Viv, Sachin, ABDV Kohli is better than them.

 

Tests , Steve Smith before his ban was just off the charts good. Kohli needs to raise his bar to match him.Sachin after 77 tests was not better than Kohli though.

 

we can't really compare viv with the rest. he was so long ago, where ODIs were basically extended tests and he was a massive outlier in the era. many compare viv's avg with that of current players, but it should be remembered that viv's batting fell off quite badly in his last yrs. for a long time (in terms of yrs, since fewer ODIs were played), he had a 50+ avg at a 90+ SR. in the case of kohli and others of this generation, we need to wait before retirement before knowing what their stats will be like.

 

I think the only major contenders for Kohli's spot as numero uno in ODIs are Viv and ABDV. Not SRT, Amla, Root, Rohit, etc.

 

In Tests, I think SRT from the 1990s (and to a lesser degree from 1993- pre WC 2011) was better technically than any of the current Fab 4 - Williamson, Kohli, Root and Smith. Of course, being more technically adept does not automatically make someone (incl. SRT) a bigger matchwinner.

[putrevus]

23 minutes ago, Vijy said:

we can't really compare viv with the rest. he was so long ago, where ODIs were basically extended tests and he was a massive outlier in the era. many compare viv's avg with that of current players, but it should be remembered that viv's batting fell off quite badly in his last yrs. for a long time (in terms of yrs, since fewer ODIs were played), he had a 50+ avg at a 90+ SR. in the case of kohli and others of this generation, we need to wait before retirement before knowing what their stats will be like.

 

I think the only major contenders for Kohli's spot as numero uno in ODIs are Viv and ABDV. Not SRT, Amla, Root, Rohit, etc.

 

In Tests, I think SRT from the 1990s (and to a lesser degree from 1993- pre WC 2011) was better technically than any of the current Fab 4 - Williamson, Kohli, Root and Smith. Of course, being more technically adept does not automatically make someone (incl. SRT) a bigger matchwinner.

Viv played 189 matches which is not that less than Kohli and he has 11 100s vs 39 for Kohli so it does not matter what he was in his ERA.He is not  better than Kohli. Kohli in odis is simply the best because he elimantes all risks and still is able to score at 90 plus SR in any condition.Kohli even if he stops playing today will be the best odi batsmen ever.He does not have to do anything else at all to be called greatest.

 

ABDV I won't put him there because he was reluctant to take top order spot.Odis you have to be top 3 to make the most impact.He is a special talent but cosistency wise there are no equals to Kohli. Look at last year it was insane , he averaged 133 and scored more than 1200 runs in 14 matches.

Edited January 17, 2019 by putrevus

[VT87]

On 1/16/2019 at 7:23 PM, raki05 said:

There is no comparison between lion and men.....Kohli workship Sachin discussion should end there.

But your Rahul  is better  than  both

[raki05]

1 hour ago, VT87 said:

But your Rahul  is better  than  both

If u say so , why not.

[velu]

guys calm down .. you both are in the same gang @raki05  @VT87 

[VT87]

There  is classic  case compare  some  one to Sachin ( obviously  Sachin  is greatest batsman  india has ever  produced  ,he was real prodigy) so you can run your  hidden  agenda  to abuse him

[Nonbeliever]

10 hours ago, putrevus said:

Viv played 189 matches which is not that less than Kohli and he has 11 100s vs 39 for Kohli so it does not matter what he was in his ERA.He is not  better than Kohli. Kohli in odis is simply the best because he elimantes all risks and still is able to score at 90 plus SR in any condition.Kohli even if he stops playing today will be the best odi batsmen ever.He does not have to do anything else at all to be called greatest.

 

ABDV I won't put him there because he was reluctant to take top order spot.Odis you have to be top 3 to make the most impact.He is a special talent but cosistency wise there are no equals to Kohli. Look at last year it was insane , he averaged 133 and scored more than 1200 runs in 14 matches.

Viv was nobody. even our padosi great babar azam will soon surpass him. He averages over 51 and has already 8 hundreds.  

[mishra]

37 minutes ago, Nonbeliever said:

Viv was nobody. even our padosi great babar azam will soon surpass him. He averages over 51 and has already 8 hundreds.  

Icfers just keep embarrassing themselves and greatest Kohli by comparing him to lara sachin viv.

padosi forum effect.

[R!TTER]

Some kids & oldies tend to underrate how hard it is to score against the old ball on non super flat tracks, just look at this game! Suffice to say their rosy eyed tint only glows red it sees Kohli, & yes SRT is still the greatest Indian batter for the foreseeable future! Just imagine these bunch of guys against peak Warne or Murali, on surfaces that aren't made for T20 & just the one old ball. Anyone bringing yo - but he also faced these bowlers - clearly doesn't remember cricket pre 2007/08 which was 80% of his career!

[tweaker]

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[putrevus]

Some people think Sachin played in Bradman’s era. He played till 2013 , there is nothing in Sachin’s batting which makes him better than Kohli.

He had the biggest advantage of opening in Asia where it rarely swings.


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[Nonbeliever]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

Some people think Sachin played in Bradman’s era. He played till 2013 , there is nothing in Sachin’s batting which makes him better than Kohli.

He had the biggest advantage of opening in Asia where it rarely swings.


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No played in an era where players like ponting, lara,Hayden,arvinda,anwar,gilchlirs,Jayasuriya,Gibbs,yuvraj,inzmam could hardly average 40.

 

And today is an era where kedar jadhav averages 45, babbar azam and joe root over 50, Ross Taylor over 47.

 

Even our darling manish pandey averages similar to yuvraj singh with better strike rate.

[putrevus]

13 minutes ago, Nonbeliever said:

No played in an era where players like ponting, lara,Hayden,arvinda,anwar,gilchlirs,Jayasuriya,Gibbs,yuvraj,inzmam could hardly average 40.

 

And today is an era where kedar jadhav averages 45, babbar azam and joe root over 50, Ross Taylor over 47.

 

Even our darling manish pandey averages similar to yuvraj singh with better strike rate.

Let them play 200 matches and then we can see how much they average.You comparing apples to oranges.Joe Root is best all round English batsman in their history so it is not a shock if he averages over 50.

 

Zaheer Abbas averaged more than Sachin that too in 1970s and 80s does it make him better than Sachin.

 

[Nonbeliever]

1 minute ago, putrevus said:

Let them play 200 matches and then we can see how much they average.You comparing apples to oranges.Joe Root is best all round English batsman in their history so it is not a shock if he averages over 50.

 

Zaheer Abbas averaged more than Sachin that too in 1970s and 80s does it make him better than Sachin.

 

Let kohli also play 400 Odis. and wait till then.

[putrevus]

7 minutes ago, Nonbeliever said:

Let kohli also play 400 Odis. and wait till then.

He doesn't have to, he already scored 39 100s in half the matches.Sachin is nowhere near Kohli's consistent greatness. .

Edited January 18, 2019 by putrevus

[Nonbeliever]

Just now, putrevus said:

He doesn't have to he already scored 39 100s in half the matches.Sachin is nowhere near Kohli .

Ok.

[bahubali]

On topic none of them but him.