maniac Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I don’t mind dropping Rohit to accommodate Rahul...will shock some but that is ok..,but here is the deal...Dhawan,Rahane and Pandya and even to some extent Vijay and Pujara are all suckers who will find way to fk up and will make way for the king of Kings some time or the other and as we know by know when the king gets angry and motivated records tumble like 16 6s, highest odi score,2 t20i 100s ,IPL hat trick,fastest T20i 100,WC qf Mom,CT sf mom and the latest addition to my armory 3 200s. sergio04 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, maniac said: Dhawan will play thanks to Ko-asstri so I guess these are suggestions to get around that. Shastri uncle has also made it clear rahul has to wait so he ll be warming the benches N Dhawan wnt last long , captain impatient also wnt take time to chop n change Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) 37 minutes ago, SK_IH said: will rohit play or pandya,thats another question worth debating? You have included Rohit / Pandya at 7 in the OP That won't happen There will either be 5 batters + Pandya or 6 batters ... then Saha, 1 Spinner , 3 quicks As Shastri has confirmed that Vijay and Dhawan are opening, the only way for Rahul to play is replacing Rohit or Hardik ( first he has to play ... only then the issue of his batting position arises ) Choosing 6th batsman vs Pandya should depend on the pitch. Flat pitch would need extra bowler and seaming track would need extra batsman. Edited December 27, 2017 by express bowling Link to comment
wanted_desi Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 He is our best opener, even better than Murli and he will be warming bench. Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, maniac said: I don’t mind dropping Rohit to accommodate Rahul...will shock some but that is ok..,but here is the deal...Dhawan,Rahane and Pandya and even to some extent Vijay and Pujara are all suckers who will find way to fk up and will make way for the king of Kings some time or the other and as we know by know when the king gets angry and motivated records tumble like 16 6s, highest odi score,2 t20i 100s ,IPL hat trick,fastest T20i 100,WC qf Mom,CT sf mom and the latest addition to my armory 3 200s. Just as when I had started enjoying your posts... SK_IH 1 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 32 minutes ago, express bowling said: You have included Rohit / Pandya at 7 in the OP That won't happen There will either be 5 batters + Pandya or 6 batters ... then Saha, 1 Spinner , 3 quicks As Shastri has confirmed that Vijay and Dhawan are opening, the only way for Rahul to play is replacing Rohit or Hardik ( first he has to play ... only then the issue of his batting position arises ) Choosing 6th batsman vs Pandya should depend on the pitch. Flat pitch would need extra bowler and seaming track would need extra batsman. i guessed,having invested so much in pandya,he will be a certainty in the xi. Link to comment
renjith Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) Pujara is the best option at 3 as he can protect middle order from new ball. runs are not much important at that point. runs will come later in the day if we don;t expose middle order to new ball. if rahul is to be played, he should replace rohit at 6. since he is a test opener, he can be used to negotiate second new ball as well. Edited December 27, 2017 by renjith Gollum 1 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 20 minutes ago, renjith said: Pujara is the best option at 3 as he can protect middle order from new ball. runs are not much important at that point. runs will come later in the day if we don;t expose middle order to new ball. if rahul is to be played, he should replace rohit at 6. since he is a test opener, he can be used to negotiate second new ball as well. i dont like this theory ,runs are always important in cricket,cricket is all about scoring runs n taking wickets there is no guarantee runs will come later in the day,there can be another scenario,you dont score anything for a session ,you go nowhere and suddenly lose two wkts and you are in trouble Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 30 minutes ago, SK_IH said: i guessed,having invested so much in pandya,he will be a certainty in the xi. But, he can't replace a specialist bowler .... he is a batting all-rounder and has to replace the 6th batter if he has to play King Tendulkar 1 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 26 minutes ago, express bowling said: But, he can't replace a specialist bowler .... he is a batting all-rounder and has to replace the 6th batter if he has to play my guess is he will play in 1st test Link to comment
Gollum Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 hour ago, SK_IH said: i dont like this theory ,runs are always important in cricket,cricket is all about scoring runs n taking wickets there is no guarantee runs will come later in the day,there can be another scenario,you dont score anything for a session ,you go nowhere and suddenly lose two wkts and you are in trouble Did you watch the last 2 tests in UK 2014? If our top 4 can't grind it out we will get many sub 100 scores. What will you prefer 60/2 in 30 overs or 120/6 in 30 overs? In UK and SA survival at the top is more important than quick runs, in Aus it is a different matter altogether. Remember Durban 2010 and Jo'berg 2006...how much we restrained our stroke play while batting, we need to be very gritty next month. Link to comment
renjith Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 hour ago, SK_IH said: i dont like this theory ,runs are always important in cricket,cricket is all about scoring runs n taking wickets there is no guarantee runs will come later in the day,there can be another scenario,you dont score anything for a session ,you go nowhere and suddenly lose two wkts and you are in trouble both strategies have advantages and disadvantages. but considering indian batting line ups history of collapses against quality bowling line ups and seam/bounce friendly picthes, its more logical to go for the defensive tactic atleast in the first 20 overs. for that particular reason pujara is better suited than rahul. imo, if we can avoid batting collapses upfront, we have good chance of winning in south africa. Link to comment
SK_IH Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 14 minutes ago, Gollum said: Did you watch the last 2 tests in UK 2014? If our top 4 can't grind it out we will get many sub 100 scores. What will you prefer 60/2 in 30 overs or 120/6 in 30 overs? In UK and SA survival at the top is more important than quick runs, in Aus it is a different matter altogether. Remember Durban 2010 and Jo'berg 2006...how much we restrained our stroke play while batting, we need to be very gritty next month. 13 minutes ago, renjith said: both strategies have advantages and disadvantages. but considering indian batting line ups history of collapses against quality bowling line ups and seam/bounce friendly picthes, its more logical to go for the defensive tactic atleast in the first 20 overs. for that particular reason pujara is better suited than rahul. imo, if we can avoid batting collapses upfront, we have good chance of winning in south africa. see the point of playing rahul at 3 is two fold ,firstly will get him in the xi,which is essential,its a sick joke that one of our better test batsman will be on bench on the start of the tour secondly,i think playing attacking cricket always has advantages ,by attacking doesnt mean you have to slog ,play normal cricket,respect good balls but with a mindset to score runs as well,which i somehow dont expect pujara to do vijay dhawan rahul kohli pujara another batsman/pandya doing this pujara will be sandwiched between kohli and two more capable batsman ,i think this combo is worth trying Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I actually was thinking this what op done . Pujara condo do good at 5, ball older so won’t bounce as much ( his weakness ) . Raul would be like having 3 openers so makes us stronger up top won’t happen but can see that it’s good idea SK_IH 1 Link to comment
renjith Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 16 minutes ago, SK_IH said: vijay dhawan rahul kohli pujara another batsman/pandya I can smell a collapse upfront with dhawan->rahul->kohli Link to comment
SK_IH Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 31 minutes ago, renjith said: I can smell a collapse upfront with dhawan->rahul->kohli you cant play with that mindset ,dont you think Link to comment
renjith Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Just now, SK_IH said: you cant play with that mindset ,dont you think unfortunately the first thing that come to my mind when we play south africa in south africa is batting collapse. SK_IH 1 Link to comment
sandeep Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 In ODIs yes. Not in tests. Link to comment
Pollack Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Arey team me khelne ke wande ho gaye hai uske . No 3 ki baat kaha. Laaloo 1 Link to comment
Austin 3:!6 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 No but in ODIs Rahul should bat at 3. Considering 2019 WC will be in England, the ball will swing and no.3 is little too high for Kohli if we lose an early wicket.DhawanRohitRahulKohliIyer/Jadhav/Panday/RainaDhoniPandyaSent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk Link to comment
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